In post 206, Rubicon wrote:I'm asking Mirhawk because that's where my vote has been and your read wall seems like a good jumping off point for further discussion with my main scum read.
The strong reads bug me because they don't fit the amount of content those players have posted. It stretches my suspension of disbelief to think you have those reads, and consequently makes me think you miscalibrated what would be a plausible amount of fake confidence.
Fair enough. That doesn't mean they are made up. They are the reads I have. The one on Bert is very much based on previous games with him, and more specifically, the fact that I saw from an informed POV his scum game in Dark Age of the Law, and it doesn't look the same to me here. Same for ZZZX, though different games, but he's being very much his townself. The other one, Oversoul, because his posts are very transparent, and make it easy for me to read him. Of course I could be wrong, but I have to put some faith in my own reads or I'll waffle all over the place and my reads will never evolve properly.
The waffly reads bug me because you spend so much time writing about how waffly you are, without working to make yourself less waffly by scumhunting those players.
This is something you have no way of knowing at all. I caught up on the thread and posted my initial thoughts. The next step involves engaging those null players to refine my read on them.
This makes it look like you care more about writing about your reads than improving them.
At this point? Well.. yes. It's important that I get my thoughts out there and then work on building them into stronger reads. That involves talking through those reads with my stronger town reads. Can't do that if they aren't at least posted. But none of it was fabricated. Like, I didn't just say shit to say shit. Everything I wrote was something I actually thought.
The fake-sounding reads just pattern match as the kind of reads scum like to make up to look like they have a position.
No. I don't think you know the difference. I don't know why they sound fake to you, but they aren't. And furthermore, what you're talking about is a non-committal reads list, which I didn't do at all.
In post 205, Lying Scum wrote:Also, calling me lynch-bait which I don't understand from our (almost nonexistent) meta experience together.
We have meta you are not aware of. It allows me to see who is pushing you because they think you are easy or because they think you are scum. I shared it because not everyone may see it the same way.
Could you talk more about this?
What exactly is there to talk about? I have alts. End of story. However, I think you are just insulted that I called you lynch bait, which actually makes me feel better about you. I think scum would be more likely to take the lynch bait title and roll with it, than to fight it.
This doesn't make me feel better about you making stuff up considering no one has pushed or even mentioned me at all so far.
Again, I have not made anything up. You need to stop saying that like it's a fact. You think it sounds fake, ok, then that's what you think. That doesn't mean it actually is. And I don't think you get what I meant at all.
If I think X is an easy mark, I'm going to be looking for the people who are opportunistically going for an easy lynch. It helps me sort other people, and sharing my insight might help others sort other people as well. Does that mean that X is already being pushed? No.... I never said it did and the statement isn't dependent on that in any way.
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Art is cool.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to read him, and it doesn't really tell me what you think of his slot.
Lots of empty questions, no follow up, 