Mafia with the Quickness 2 GAME OVER!

[Sugoku Sugoi]

Why exactly are you wary of Perpetual Nonsense?

[Zachrulez]

4th vote count of day 2:

jasonT1981

(5): Feu et Vol, Sugoku Sugoi, Speedy Saki, Nobody Special, SleepyKrew

Speedy Saki

(3): jasonT1981, Slice of Life, Perpetual Nonsense

Slandaar

(2): Desperado, Hoopla

Not Voting

(5): Juls, helium-3, Ser Arthur Dayne, Slandaar, Oversoul

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Day Two will end in (expired on 2014-06-23 09:00:00)

[Perpetual Nonsense]

Okay, that sort of makes sense and vaguely in line with ours. How does Arthur feel calculated here as opposed to in NY169? What are your thoughts on JasonT1981 and SleepyKrew?

he doesnt have that inherent indignation of "guys i believe im right, sheep me or youre friggin scum" kinda 'tude

jason and sleepykrew are both volume posters, but not much of a hindrance really and certainly not going under the radar. id say nullish town based on them addressing things in a somewhat natural flow

[Hoopla]

hoopla for that frenetic optimism, while obscure about her/his full goals. most posts are short and dont have a great point in them

my goals were pretty obvious. get on with the game when it's obvious what is going to happen. however, what does that actually mean/why is it scummy? explain to me town vs. scum motivation for "frenetic optimism yet with obscure goals", because they're evocative words that definitely make a sentence, but i don't understand why them all together makes you feel suspicious of me.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.

[Juls]

Sheep you into not voting? Done.

[Hoopla]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone.

how so?

[Sugoku Sugoi]

But your VCA feels really arbitrary and simplistic though Hoopla. I mean, if town have a read they are confident in, it wouldn't make sense to hop around all the wagons and if scum are opportunistic, they would go with the flow which means changing wagons. I find both of them to be null.

[SleepyKrew]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.

lolwut this post please die

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone.

how so?

His votes look opportunistic scum and there's some rather large wagons with like everyone but him either confirmed town, or highly likely town.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.

lolwut this post please die

Which part is bad sir???

[Hoopla]

But your VCA feels really arbitrary and simplistic though Hoopla. I mean, if town have a read they are confident in, it wouldn't make sense to hop around all the wagons and if scum are opportunistic, they would go with the flow which means changing wagons. I find both of them to be null.

I expect to be more rigorous and fine-tine my reads over the course of the day. What I am saying now is there is a reason D1 played out the way it played out. You can expect scum to fit the profile of what I've described more than average.

[Hoopla]

His votes look opportunistic scum and there's some rather large wagons with like everyone but him either confirmed town, or highly likely town.

which ones? show me.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

11th Vote Count of Day 1

Juls

(5): Desperado, Sugoku Sugoi, Feu et Vol, SleepyKrew, Not_Mafia

helium-3

(2): Juls, jasonT1981

Imperium

(1): Perpetual Nonsense

Slice of Life

(1): Hoopla

SaintKerrigan

(1): Slandaar

Ser Arthur Dayne

(1): Imperium

Speedy Saki

(1): Oversoul

Not_Mafia

(1): helium-3

Oversoul

(1): Slice of Life

Not Voting

(5): Nero Cain, Ser Arthur Dayne, Speedy Saki, Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-06-17 09:00:00)

21st Vote Count of Day 1

Not_Mafia

(7): Sugoku Sugoi, Ser Arthur Dayne, Imperium, Speedy Saki, SleepyKrew, shos, Juls

shos

(4): Perpetual Nonsense, Slandaar, helium-3, Not_Mafia

SaintKerrigan

(3): Oversoul, Desperado, Hoopla

Oversoul

(1): Slice of Life

Juls

(1): Feu et Vol

Speedy Saki

(1): jasonT1981

Not Voting

(2): Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-06-17 09:00:00)

[Sugoku Sugoi]

I didn't avoid.. I've directly answered you twice.

As I said.. 1) I had already in D1 expressed concerns we should control the kill if he was telling the truth 2) had already pointed out on a few occasions he was going after those who went after him.

As I say, if you want to tell yourself otherwise, knock yourself out.

you did not "directly answer" me. I'm accusing you of 2 things:

1. you said on D1 you brought up shos scumreading everyone who was scumreading him as a reason we should control who he shoots, but you never said that - you said these things independently and brought up 2 as a reason for thinking he was scum, but never brought up 2 explicitly as a reason for 1.
2. strawmanning said argument when pressured about it.

what you said might be true, but IT'S NOT RELEVANT HERE. you're manipulating irrelevant evidence to fit your argument and hoping you can just shake it off.

I'm not "looking to justify my vote", I'm looking for an explanation. explain why you did both of those plz

more an observation

this is bullshit. let's suppose it's just an "observation". what was your thought process behind making that observation?

it's p obvious you're thinking of it as a reason for us being scum. the obvious implication behind what you said is that, since we "seem to know more" about NKs, we're scum who was planning it out. and there's no reason to point smth like that out otherwise. so this feels like you're backpedaling on your previous stance now that you're being pressured for it.

[jasonT1981]

Juat an observation as I said, as it seemed you knew more about NK reasons than anyone else......it was 'interesting' speculation.

[Hoopla]

SAD, that is also reasoning for Sugoku Sugoi too.

[Hoopla]

what's the case on jason again? someone give me the footnotes...

[SleepyKrew]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.

lolwut this post please die

Which part is bad sir???

All

[Sugoku Sugoi]

1638 feels like him pointing out he was right in order to get towncred from the shos/SaintK townflips. this is even more so the case when he never actually said shos being really jumpy and scumreading everyone scumreading him was explicitly a bad reason for shos to control his own vengekill.

there was more earlier (in general, a lot of fence-sitting and overall being wishy-washy about everything - F-16 also thinks this is an attribute of his scum meta) and there's nothing very town in his ISO to make me second guess the read.

[SleepyKrew]

Juat an observation as I said, as it seemed you knew more about NK reasons than anyone else......it was 'interesting' speculation.

So are you gonna do anything with this observation orrrrrr

[SleepyKrew]

what's the case on jason again? someone give me the footnotes...

ISO me ctrl f jason

[Sugoku Sugoi]

Juat an observation as I said, as it seemed you knew more about NK reasons than anyone else......it was 'interesting' speculation.

So are you gonna do anything with this observation orrrrrr

^THIS. if it was just an observation, what the hell was he trying to do with it?

it came from a mindset of him accusing us as scum and then he backpedaled on it once he realized it wouldn't work

[SleepyKrew]

I concur with your agreement of me!

[helium-3]

VOTE: slandaar

good wagon