Mini 1583 - Austin Powers (Concluded)

[DeasVail]

Well if that's how it's going to be...

Vote: BipolarChemist

Why aren't you trying to kill me by other means?

[DeasVail]

Weak vote ProHawk! I voted DV first, why not come after me?

And everyone likes DV, weak argument, PH, weak.

Why didn't you answer my question?

(It's because you're scum, isn't it? )

In all seriousness though,

Unvote: BipolarChemist
Vote: Shos

This is where it's at.

[DeasVail]

Vote:DeasVail

He's always scum.

ProHawk,...because?

Hmm, why did you question ProHawk on his vote but not the others?

[DeasVail]

I do!

(well I'm not actually sure and he's just my best guess from so far but let's just pretend I'm super confident ok?)

[DeasVail]

Oh and flip flopping is the best. You should totally try it.

[DeasVail]

He's my strongest townread at the moment though.

[DeasVail]

ProHawk, Konowa, Bipolar and Scarab are all pretty shagadelic so far. Who else wants to join the groovy crew?

[DeasVail]

!!!

Unvote: Shos
Vote: Sharpest-knfe-on-tree

First, why are people still pretending it's RVS? I mean, we could make random votes forever and ever and it would be fun and all but we'd never actually get to lynching anyone.

As for why I think the sharpest knife on tree is actually not so sharp after all, their post adds nothing really to the game. They make sure to show off the fact that their vote is truly random and all, but what's the point? It's safe for scum to do because tn and others before them have still used RVS-style reasoning to justify their votes, but tn is actually showing some rebellious town attitude, other people are actually interacting, sharpest-knife-on-tree is just sitting there... making a random vote and then retreating back into the shadows of Dr. Evil's lair.

PEdit: I liked the reasoning shown in 18. It seemed like he was actually looking for things rather than defaulting to just RVSing through the first page.

[DeasVail]

It's less the random.org nature of the vote and more the timing of it (and complete lack of anything else) for me. I am not familiar with Sharpest as a player though.

I am hesitant in agreeing with you when it comes to Tn, as I think his apparent lack of care for what people think of him is indicative of town, but it could be something he's able to replicate as scum, so I'm by no means decided there.

[DeasVail]

ProHawk, Konowa, Bipolar and Scarab are all pretty shagadelic so far. Who else wants to join the groovy crew?

Meeeee

Oh, behave!

I'm not sure what I think of you yet. Sometimes I think you're shagadelic, but you could be a fembot yet!

Trololo BPC

I am officially offended that you think voting me will make me care/change

You are still in RVS boy. Im not.

His vote looked pretty legitimate to me. Why are you saying he's still in RVS?

[DeasVail]

I'm the sad guy in the corner who never watched Austin Powers nor knows the vocab. I'm taking shagadelic is town and fembots is scum?

I only just watched the first movie last night, but that's pretty much it yeah.

[DeasVail]

Ok I'm back!

Maybe the knife is sharp after all... It's not at groovy levels yet, and has a lot of work to do before it become shagadelic. I mean, come on, it's a knife.

Unvote

Ok Page 5 knife is pretty damn groovy!

Right there your play is noticeably different.

I'm not sure if I'm understanding this right, but are you both claiming that knife's play is different here, and that you can't remember knife's play from that game?

Vote: kthxbye

[DeasVail]

And what is your opinion of knife from that?

[DeasVail]

@dv: are you voting for those that are not posting for the bettlejuice effect? If you are I just lost respect for you.

In part, yes. Also because I was thinking about where to place my vote and that option appealed to me most. I think it's a pretty silly reason to lose respect for me though (there are so many better ones )

Why does the fact that scarab on page 2 saying he's read up on skot's games not bother anyone else? I mean who arbitrarily picks a player at the start of a game and starts reading their games and immediately defends them? Why did he also start buddying bipolar chemist and chainsaw vote the person who was voting bpc?

None of this looks town, people ignoring it like it never happened really weirds me out.

To be fair, at this point I'd probably chainsaw anyone who attacked BPC too. Are you scared because they're both town?

kthx is STILL SCUM!

[DeasVail]

Shagadelic:

BPC
farside22
Scarab

Groovy:

Konowa
ProHawk
Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Shos

[DeasVail]

I have a bit of a gut scum feeling on farside. Was gonna keep that under wraps a bit to see if that read solidified or drifted off, but with DV's list putting her under the towniest of the town section, now seems like a good time. DV, convince me of farside-town? :3

It was more of a general impression than something specific, but I'll try my best to explain. Her posts give me the impression that she's really scumhunting and trying to work out the game, but at the same time, there is no evidence of the showiness that I would expect from scum trying to look like they're scumhunting, if that makes any sense. Looking over it again, I'm not so confident in placing her as so strongly town, but she's definitely a weak townread at the very least.

I have skimmed and I have some town reads, but nothing solid on scum reads. If I had to choose today's lynch all by myself, I'd go with DV getting rope. Something seems...off...or fake about his posts. Not a fan. Nothing really substantial to get a read from either. It's like he wants to be everyone's friend. Even when he calls someone scum, he's very light about the way he does it. It's not solid (mostly gut), but it's enough to warrant a

VOTE: DV

Do you feel this differs from your past experiences with me? This feels like a pretty legitimate reason for a vote, but often those that have played with me before reference my friendliness in games as being a potential red herring. So, tell me where you're coming from here.

[DeasVail]

vote shos

Don't like how he's spending so much time on Nazarene

What is your read on Nazarene?

[DeasVail]

No, BPC is actually town.

(Paranoia, you're not welcome here. Please go away)

Bigger post coming soon.

[DeasVail]

Strangely enough, when I just tried reading farside in iso (and I read through it thrice), I didn't get scumvibes. When I did a (really rough) skim of the game with a full read of farside's posts as I went, I got the bad feelings again. I'm not sure what that means. I'm probably imagining it. And I'm suddenly not liking Nazarene, which gives farside a couple points in my book.

It's actually the opposite for me. Reading through the game I thought farside was really town, but when I ISO'd her to explain my townread to you, she didn't seem super town anymore. I don't know what this means!

Like, I like my vote on tn, but Scarab's #198 is awful and makes me want to take a shower.

Can you explain this? I feel like your reads (esp. on BPC and Scarab) differ quite wildly from my own.

Kthx, My read of Shos is weak-town. I've only played once with him before but he was my scumbuddy and I remember him being very on top of things, but here there are little inconsistencies that actually make sense from town, but that scum would probably make an effort to avoid. Example one is the situation where he didn't realise he was actually sheeping me. As scum, I know I'm very hyper-aware of who's suspecting who. (Who is attacking me/my buddies? Who can be potentially mislynched?) So I think it more likely that scum would catch themselves rather than look sort of bad as Shos did. The confusion over Jake's OMGUS accusation is similar (but also not as strong).

But your first post adds to the game? Also, you think tn is acting towny in his vote, why not question Scarab a bit?

It's the timing of the post and lack of follow-up. My first post was when there was nothing to add, but Knife's was at a time when there was. And I wasn't really all that convinced by my own reasoning either. I now think he's town.

You change to thinking tn could be scummy here. Why did you completely disregard your previous read of him having a rebellious town attitude?

I wasn't disregarding anything to my knowledge. I didn't think he was scummy there, but did acknowledge that my townlean on him was weak.

You like just said we weren't in RVS anymore and you lay this vote. Please explain further.

I'll answer this and your next question here. There's nothing that especially makes me think scum currently, so I'm mostly looking out for the players that have a lack of town to their posting, which I think is actually how scum will appear a lot (as they are actively trying to avoid looking scummy), but there are things that town will do that scum won't, so that's what I'm hoping to find I guess, and then PoE it from there. If I find something I legitimately find scummy (or think someone else's point is good) then cool! The problem is probably me missing things rather than scum not being scummy, so I'll do some ISOs when I have time on the weekend and see what I find, but this is often the case for me if it makes a difference at all.

DeasVail could be a good lynch, but I need to see more from him. So, how does this feel, you butt!~

VOTE: DeasVail

It feels like a betrayal! Like some form of hideous torture! Like someone saying that Tod isn't actually that cute after all!

And I like it.

Thank you for being so clearly town to me. If you're actually scum then you should probably gloat about how terrible I am with your scumbuddies, but for now the paranoia is (mostly) at bay and I can pretty confidently call you town as long as I say something to make me feel better about the possibility that I'm wrong alongside it! (This is pretty high-tier town for me)

I hope that I can be as clearly town as you. Well actually, maybe it would be more fun to continue this dynamic of you wanting me lynched and me lashing out at anyone that wants to lynch you. Hmmm.... I'll think on it.

I will ask you though, why do you think kthx is town? My scumread there (if you could even call it that) is as weak as ever, but I'm not sure how I feel about how he jumped off me after I gave him the slightest bit of pressure on it.

And also, I feel pretty strongly about Scarab-town, with 203 confirming my read there, but paranoia etc.

[DeasVail]

DV, why is BPC town?

I would prefer not to explain this for now. If it gets to the point where BPC is about to be lynched than I will (although the reasons will probably be less significant to you than to me), but for now just know that I have a pretty strong townread there!

I don't understand his vote of DV either at this point?

If it helps at all I understood it and thought it came from a very town place.

Okay, ya DV is probs town. I have my reasons...

I still think Scarab is town, but can you elaborate on the ways in which he tries to change his townplay?

BPC's style is the same from our last game. I have to check whether he was scum or not.

Why didn't you just check as soon as the thought came to mind?

he feels like he's trying too hard to appear town.

This has become a concern of mine actually.

Unvote: kthxbye
Vote: Shadedmelee

I'll hopefully have confident(ish) reads and a solid vote this weekend.

[DeasVail]

I won't be able to make a proper post tonight, but better times are fast approaching.

[DeasVail]

I have too much going on right now and need to

Replace out

I'm not very sure of any of my reads except BPC being town so if you're going to listen to any of them listen to that.