Mini 1581--The Final Radiant Tales...(Fin)

[shos]

Ok so I haven't ISOed sns and I don't want to, so can you point out what made you consider him scummy? maybe I can defend that

[Lying Scum]

Hi there. I'm coming back to this now.

morph - I don't think I called them town. Last I remember they fake vigged someone, which I thought was classic Guyett, but not alignment indicative. I need to catch up big time, but I thought I said they were scum and they didn't like me for that.

To be fairly honest, I see a large wagon that wasn't there before and no counterwagon, and that is a bit troubling. I'll be catching up today and posting my thoughts this afternoon/evening, or tomorrow morning at the latest.

ETL

[morph the cat]

ETL, I assume this post was you:

ifthat wasn't classic guyetti;d ldt you buyou pushin nkthat knowing it si ais scumjy as fuck. fi it wroent for beli i'd be lyncing you.

That was your reaction to me telling IA that we'd lynch the fuck out of them if they set up another huge pyramid of fake-claims like they did in GiF's cult micro.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

ETL, I assume this post was you:

ifthat wasn't classic guyetti;d ldt you buyou pushin nkthat knowing it si ais scumjy as fuck. fi it wroent for beli i'd be lyncing you.

That was your reaction to me telling IA that we'd lynch the fuck out of them if they set up another huge pyramid of fake-claims like they did in GiF's cult micro.

lol... of course it was me - it's from my main account.

Translation:

If that wasn't classic Guyett, I'd let you, but you pushing that knowing it is, is scummy as fuck. If it weren't for beli, I'd be lynching

you

.

I don't remember the fake claims comments.

What I was saying with that is that being part of Guyett's general meta makes it not alignment indicative, though I was referring solely to the fake vig. He has been rather trolly lately, so I haven't quite figured him out just yet, but I'm confident I will. At the moment, they are less than town. My reads are stale though. I will get back to you.

[Bert]

We are voting you in part because of Cabd's read of sns. He was our strongest scum read while he was in the game.

And Cabd doesn't think the way he replaced out fit sns' townplay from the 6prizes site.

Somehow I missed that part. Yeah.....sheeping this, hop on guys and girls

VOTE: IA

[Bert]

L-1

shos time to do your jilted lover impressions from meme <3

[morph the cat]

Ok so I haven't ISOed sns and I don't want to, so can you point out what made you consider him scummy? maybe I can defend that

The main thing that caught my eye was his reaction to KA.

The other players in the game were either "been there, done that" or suspicious of KA for entering the game by dissing his recent gameplay and pointing out that he's an easy mislynch. sns' post was sympathetic and immediately raised a "buddying?" flag for me. If you look at his other posts before and after that one, you'll see that as well as being quite different from the reactions of other players it was also quite different from the tone of his own posts, which came off sarcastic and snarky.

Sarcastic and snarky isn't alignment indicative, according to Cabd. So, I'm left with the clang of a post that doesn't fit the rest of his ISO.

Sometimes players will say something, or indicate a level of distress about a game that will draw me out of a "this game" focus. It could be that sns' post to KA fits that mold.

But, the apologetic, I'm-in-over-my-head tone of his replace-out post strikes Cabd as not like town-sns.

And then there's your play, which doesn't look like it's focused on developing reads or finding scum.

[shos]

so basically at least 2(3?) votes on me are bacuse of sns?

morph can you please provide post numbers or context or something

[Interdimensional Arsehole]

Ok so I haven't ISOed sns and I don't want to, so can you point out what made you consider him scummy? maybe I can defend that

so basically at least 2(3?) votes on me are bacuse of sns?

morph can you please provide post numbers or context or something

crap, forgot I'm in a hydra for this

[morph the cat]

so basically at least 2(3?) votes on me are bacuse of sns?

morph can you please provide post numbers or context or something

It's a 15 post ISO. :/

The post to KA was 41

The replace-out post was 239

I see you ignored my comment about a lack of scumhunting.

[Interdimensional Arsehole]

those posts are practically still RVS, ya know. I don't see anything bad in his replacement post, too.

and re: lack of scumhunting, I have no idea what scumhunting you are looking for then. my reads so far have indeed been non-concrete, but as you can see with the lack of counterwagon here, this game really hasn't developed much. when we ca,e into the game, you were all focused on KA for something I still don't get. since then, guyett and I have been provoking you all repeatedly, and yet - nothing happens. all that happens is that we get fire for being in the center; and that's incredibly opportunistic. if someone declares intent to lynch, I will claim, but all that's going to happen is that after the claim(unrequ...nevermind ) you will not lynch me, and once again chaos will rumble etc etc.

IMO, mirhawk is scum, Oversoul is scummy, bert is practically conftown only after he proves the DV ability. ETL is...wierd. I know his townplay, don't remember his scumplay although I did play with ETLscum at least once(he won)...it's odd.

onwards electrodynamics~

[Lying Scum]

Last time I was actively reading/responding was when MafiaSSK left me high and dry without a conversation, at post 333 .

I am still upset about this, SSK! I do not want you in LYLO as a null read screwing things up.

Also, this wagon is giving me very bad feelings. The momentum is really making me question my read and I kinda feel panicky about it. There's no counterwagon and I haven't got a good handle on every slot yet.

Please at least give me some time to catch up and give my input!

I am reading right now. Like right now right now.

SHOS. WHEN DID I GET A SEX CHANGE...

ETL

[Interdimensional Arsehole]

you're a hydra now, and hydras are females in hebrew, so...eh...actually......nevermind

[Lying Scum]

Also, you have played with me far more than you seem to remember. I was in the Taylor hydra in Faith plus One. We were a faith healer. There are many other games where I was town. Like the one Purple Rose replaced out, Lucky replaced in, we caught him, and Natirasha fucked up and we caught him. TSO was a PR and played a stellar game. I replaced in at end of one of the days. MafiaSSK was also in it. I don't remember the name/number. I was town there too. You were in it I'm pretty sure. The only scum games I remember with you was Guyett's mini (as Taylor) where we lurked the game to death and won, and Saulres' bastard where we lurked the game to death and won, and you were.. I dunno what the fuck you were. I still don't quite understand what we (Putin on a Cracker) were.

ETL

[Interdimensional Arsehole]

I remembered only the PoaC one, because you were in Shos' sig when you said you couldn't believe you won, and that I'm scary lol

enough chatter though. what do you think about the wagon? there isn't a single other person with more than 1 vote; that literally never happens.

[Lying Scum]

Also! shos is fantastic as town. I want to see what he comes up with before lynching him off the face of the planet. I don't like it for a D1 lynch at all!

ETL

p-edit: THAT'S MY POINT. I don't understand why people are just like "LOLWAGON!" without any thinking. This playerlist is not brainless. I don't get it.

[Bert]

Yo guys I'm pretty sure ETL's a gal.

[morph the cat]

UNVOTE:

[morph the cat]

What do you mean, no counterwagon?

If anything, the IA (and ZZZX) wagons were counter to the KA wagon.

[Lying Scum]

What do you mean, no counterwagon?

If anything, the IA (and ZZZX) wagons were counter to the KA wagon.

Yes. Fine. And they disintegrated. If IA is scum, what happened? Does it make sense to you?

Wagons exist on player A and player B.
Player C shows up.
Wagons on players A/B go poof, and wagon on player C, and only player C explodes.

That tells me that there are votes on there that are only there to lynch player C. That tells me that people moved in that direction because they saw an opportunity to do so. It tells me that it's a wagon that has no opposition

from the scum team

. It tells me something is wrong and we should be looking at where it went wrong.

ETL

[morph the cat]

What do you mean, no counterwagon?

If anything, the IA (and ZZZX) wagons were counter to the KA wagon.

Yes. Fine. And they disintegrated. If IA is scum, what happened? Does it make sense to you?

Wagons exist on player A and player B.
Player C shows up.
Wagons on players A/B go poof, and wagon on player C, and only player C explodes.

That tells me that there are votes on there that are only there to lynch player C. That tells me that people moved in that direction because they saw an opportunity to do so. It tells me that it's a wagon that has no opposition

from the scum team

. It tells me something is wrong and we should be looking at where it went wrong.

ETL

The wagon fizzled earlier. I dunno.

What is your read of them?

[Lying Scum]

Spoiler: translating my drunkposts

ifthat wasn't classic guyetti;d ldt you buyou pushin nkthat knowing it si ais scumjy as fuck. fi it wroent for beli i'd be lyncing you.

If that wasn't classic Guyett, I'd let you, but you pushing that knowing it is, is scummy as fuck. If it weren't for beli, I'd be lynching you.

HIGYUST

HI GUYETT.

btui lvoeyou.

But I love you.

My readings that require no afterthought, rather they are spewed.

I think KA is scum. I think gameplay is lean-scum. I think ETL *might* be scum.

I think Lady Ffery is town. Mirhawk might actually be town. Who knows about IA.

Oversoul is null. Rubicon is null. Bulba *seems* town. That's all I have for now. A lot of other mehs (read: Varsoon, ZZZX (pointless slip that seems unrelated to this game)) that aren't really worth talking about.

So <ETL, KA, gameplay>

tghis is quite liatrlly the worst post yhou hava evrmade ever bert. wow.

This is quite literally the worst post you have ever made ever, Bert. Wow.

iwasnt'. fot somereason iu though is was kaze whic i = with ffyr. which is not in this game.

lokin is fine but id ont thinkyou are look in tuhe right place and is a wast of time. sespcially when i made work to do my reas and itslik you just vomit iwthout investigating.

I wasn't. For some reason, I thought it was Kaze which I equated with Ffery, which is not in this game.
(No idea what I meant here tbh.)

Looking is fine but I don't think you are looking in the right place and it is a waste of time. Especially when I made work to do my reads and it's like you just vomit without investigating.

ETL

[Lying Scum]

What is your read of them?

Of who, IA? Or ZZZX/KA? Or all 3?

This is what I had last, on 6/17 -

Updated!Summary of ETL's current reads:

Town {Bert, Oversoul}
Maybe Town {

gameplay506, Mirhawk, Rubicon

}
Null {

MafiaSSK,

snscompt1/IA, [/color=blue]morph the cat[/color]}
Maybe Scum {KingdomAces, Varsoon}
Scum {

Bulbazak, ZZZX

}

The blue ones are the more recent reads based on a closer look at the ISOs/input from Belisarius. I still have KA, Varsoon, and IA to do, and will then look at Bert again because his latest posts are horrific, and drop him down to at least Null, but closer to Maybe scum.

I still very much like Oversoul and gameplay506 for town. Still very much do not like Bulbazak. IA is null, for the moment. I'm still reading, but the current VC makes me think they are town.

ETL

[Bert]

Well, ETL has a pattern of reading me the opposite of my alignment, so I'm not surprised at all.

[Bert]

I'll have a lot of time tomorrow morning/afternoon to attend to this properly. Neither of the suggestions of "wow this wagon is off because there's not suitable counterwagon" are so off-kilter.