Mini 1581--The Final Radiant Tales...(Fin)

[Interdimensional Arsehole]

Listem listen I'm home now ao its xool. Will read yomorrow n stuff. Bulba is an opportinistic fuvk

You provd fuck all

No I wint. Im home and I founf leann follain... my fave drink.
Sgos pls sort out the slips :/

If I flip scim I'll eat a shit

Lybch us and wnen ee flip rown lynxh that scum fuvk bulb

Hoe nany voyrs fo we havre?

Hoe nany voyrs fo we havre?

u dead

I cakl billsjit

ETL, I want you to spell out why IA is town, because the only thing they've done all game is rolefish, and there has been zero scumhunting coming from that slot.

Oh hey I have mo idea who the fuvk any onecus ib yhis gane.... how hadx asking for fkavut = rolefish?

U wikL aslo eat a shit if vulba is tien

damn bro, damn. I know it's hard to type when you're hammered but at least get the account right. do it SLOOOWWLY

In 10 hours I'll be after this hell on earth.

[Lying Scum]

ETL, I want you to spell out why IA is town, because the only thing they've done all game is rolefish, and there has been zero scumhunting coming from that slot.

Asking about flavor is not role fishing. Stop trying to shoehorn what actually happened into what you want people to think happened.

If you think that everyone plays D1 the same way, then I really don't know what to tell you other than, "You're absolutely wrong". IA is town because the Guyett part of the hydra is acting like townGuyett. He doesn't scumhunt until later. Day 1 is bullshit to him. He works best with flips and wagons to look at. He fucks around and pretends to shoot people. It's what he does. And when it comes time to get down to business, he has information from any opportunism that took place while he was fucking around. Either you trust my read on him or you don't.

ETL

[Lying Scum]

The only thing that I'm kind of wondering is why he hasn't self voted yet.

[Bulbazak]

Asking about flavor is not role fishing. Stop trying to shoehorn what actually happened into what you want people to think happened.

It's absolutely role fishing. When flavor claims are related to actual roles, like Kalas=Double Voter, then it's absolutely role fishing. I have stated time and time again how any sort of mass claim like that is a bad idea and how flavor claiming actually helps scum. Heck, I stated it emphatically in Indie game, which, again, you were in. All IA has done this entire day phase is rolefishing, and I can't understand how you are just idly sitting by and letting them get away with it.

IA is town because the Guyett part of the hydra is acting like townGuyett.

HOW is he acting like town Guyett? Because I've played with town Guyett before, and I'm obviously not seeing what you're seeing.

Either you trust my read on him or you don't.

I don't. His actions in this game don't make sense coming from town. If you can't trust my meta reads, then I'm not going to blindly trust yours.

[Lying Scum]

Hey well guess what - flavor doesn't tell me shit. I'm glad it tells you something, but I'm willing to guess that 90% of the rest of us don't fucking know what to do with flavor at this point.

You also keep bringing up the Indie Game where 1) I was scum 2) wasn't paying attention 3) replaced in LYLO, 4) didn't read the thread and 5) lost. I don't get the relevance.

I don't trust you because I think you are scum. If you think I'm town, you are really showing it badly because you trust your town reads. I'm willing to bet I'm better at reading Guyett than pretty much everyone else on the site.

I just did a 20 page VC from the last one I knew was correct:

ETL UPDATED ONE OF NAT'S VC POSTS FOR CURRENT VC

Vote Count ??

Here you go, EtL.

morph the cat(0):

Bert(0):

KingdomAces(0)

:

MafiaSSK(0):

Bulbazak(4):

gameplay506, InterdimensionalArsehole, Shadoweh, Bert

Shadoweh (0):

Mirhawk(1):

beastcharizard

Lying Scum(0):

Interdimensional Arsehole (2):

KingdomAces, MafiaSSK

Oversoul(0):

Rubicon(0):

beastcharizard (2):

Lying Scum, Bulbazak

gameplay506(3):

Rubicon, Oversoul, Mirhawk

No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(2):

Morph the Cat

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

(expired on 2014-06-27 12:00:00)

@mod: VC 1.12 and 1.13 incorrectly has Bulbazak voting IA - he changed his vote to Maruchan/bc.

Did anyone else notice the weird 4 vote push on gameplay about 10 pages ago? What the heck was that about... I'm a little surprised Oversoul/Mirhawk are voting like that.

Also lots of support for Bulbazak makes me go hmmm Still tons of resistance to zzzx/maruchan/bc lynch. Please someone tell me this is ringing alarm bells. Every counterwagon to ZZZX has taken off like a rocket and no one wants to lynch ZZZX.

[morph the cat]

Also lots of support for Bulbazak makes me go hmmm Still tons of resistance to zzzx/maruchan/bc lynch. Please someone tell me this is ringing alarm bells. Every counterwagon to ZZZX has taken off like a rocket and no one wants to lynch ZZZX.

It's impossible for

all

the people not voting zzzx to be scum.

[morph the cat]

VOTE: Beast Charizard

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Also lots of support for Bulbazak makes me go hmmm Still tons of resistance to zzzx/maruchan/bc lynch. Please someone tell me this is ringing alarm bells. Every counterwagon to ZZZX has taken off like a rocket and no one wants to lynch ZZZX.

It's impossible for

all

the people not voting zzzx to be scum.

Yeah I know but it's the only wagon of the day that has had major resistance. So if he's scum, then some of the resisters could be buddies and some could just be town being convinced. Or if he's town some of the resisters could be whiteknighting scum, which is easier to figure out imo.

[Bulbazak]

Hey well guess what - flavor doesn't tell me shit. I'm glad it tells you something, but I'm willing to guess that 90% of the rest of us don't fucking know what to do with flavor at this point.

Yeah, it's not like we're playing this on the internet, where Wikipedia is a thing.

You also keep bringing up the Indie Game where 1) I was scum 2) wasn't paying attention 3) replaced in LYLO, 4) didn't read the thread and 5) lost. I don't get the relevance.

There was a push for a mass flavor claim, and I was heavily against it. One of the reasons brought up, by Desperado I believe, was that flavor claiming could help scum narrow down possible PRs, and I agree with that sentiment. Trying to push mass flavor claims is the equivalent of role fishing.

I don't trust you because I think you are scum.

You're wrong about that and conf. biased, which shows through you refusing to consider anything I'm saying.

If you think I'm town, you are really showing it badly because you trust your town reads.

Wrong. Just because I think you're town doesn't mean that I trust your reads to be right. If I was null on IA, maybe, but I have a strong scum read on them, and you saying they're town for meta reasons does not mean squat in that regard.

@mod: VC 1.12 and 1.13 incorrectly has Bulbazak voting IA - he changed his vote to Maruchan/bc.

I changed it back. The VC is correct. IA has 3 votes. Beast now has 2 with Morph's vote.

Also lots of support for Bulbazak makes me go hmmm Still tons of resistance to zzzx/maruchan/bc lynch. Please someone tell me this is ringing alarm bells. Every counterwagon to ZZZX has taken off like a rocket and no one wants to lynch ZZZX.

Also, lots of resistance to the IA wagon. Just saying.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

The only one resisting IA is me and I don't count in my own analysis...

I want to lynch the ZZZX slot.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

opportunism #2.

For an awesome name? Okay...

Unvote

Vote Interdimensional Arsehole

yeah. Missed this one.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Yeah, it's not like we're playing this on the internet, where Wikipedia is a thing.

I don't understand how this is relevant? I mean, the game can't be broken by flavor, and just because you think a particular character could be a particular role doesn't mean they are at all.. it's just guessing, just like any speculation the scumteam would be doing. I don't particularly give a crap about the flavor, and tbh, I don't really think IA does either. But you're taking the bait and trying to look townie by opposing something that site meta would normally deem "anti-town" when it really isn't. Why do you think he's been calling you opportunistic this entire time?

[Bert]

VOTE: IA

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Why are you denying me my ZZZX lynch?

[Bulbazak]

Yeah, it's not like we're playing this on the internet, where Wikipedia is a thing.

I don't understand how this is relevant? I mean, the game can't be broken by flavor, and just because you think a particular character could be a particular role doesn't mean they are at all.. it's just guessing, just like any speculation the scumteam would be doing. I don't particularly give a crap about the flavor, and tbh, I don't really think IA does either. But you're taking the bait and trying to look townie by opposing something that site meta would normally deem "anti-town" when it really isn't. Why do you think he's been calling you opportunistic this entire time?

Flavor claims can lead scum in the right direction. And it's not a matter of me trying to look townie. I have a history of opposing any and all mass claims. I hate them and think they are extremely anti-town. And that's not why IA is accusing me of being opportunistic. This is:

if memory serves right, he was on all the leading wagons. the only exception was the wagon on us, in which he was the first vote. his votes are usually just cast, not explained nor discussed. and I just can't seem to remember his content in this game. at least we have reasons to not be posting much content..

Which is false:

Here are your accusations that I proved wrong:
1.) I was on all the leading wagons. Wrong! During the leading wagons early d1 (KA & ZZZX) I was voting Varsoon. I was the one who essentially started the wagons on Mirhawk and IA. If anything, you might have a point on Maruchan, but I was not on that one very long before switching back to IA, and 1 out of like 5 is a very bad reason to say that I was on every leading wagon.
2.) Every vote is a naked vote. Wrong! Most of my votes had some reasoning or stimulus attached to them.
3.) I did not explain my votes. Wrong! I explained why I was voting every single person. Maruchan was probably the weakest explanation, but even then, there was reasoning given and it wasn't that large of a leap to figure out why I was on the wagon.
4.) I never discussed my votes. Wrong! I discussed my Varsoon vote with Morph. I discussed my Mirhawk and IA votes excessively with ETL. Again, the only one not really discussed was Maruchan, and that was because the vote wasn't on there for very long.

So you raised 4 points against me to call me opportunistic scum, and 4 out of 4 points were wrong. Now are you going to continue spewing BS at me or are you going to sit down and take your lynch like a man?

So ETL, in all your experience with Guyett, did he ever just pull stuff out of his anus like that as town?

[Lying Scum]

The only thing that I'm kind of wondering is why he hasn't self voted yet.

I've recently seen scum-Guyett self-vote, in the antihero micro.

-Beli

[Lying Scum]

EBWOP:

[Bert]

EBWOP:

you both are cool nerds

[morph the cat]

This is me EXPLICITLY claiming that my flavor matches my role, so kindly fucking piss off about flavor claiming.

There, now you fuckers can't claim to have missed this.

[morph the cat]

(Yes this means cabd is back since the doctor checked the "not cancer" box during the consult today, wheee)

[Bulbazak]

Hey Morph! Vote IA. Please and thank you.

[Interdimensional Arsehole]

Unofficial VC

morph the cat(0):
Bert(0):
KingdomAces(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
Bulbazak(3): gameplay506, Interdimensional Arsehole, Shadoweh
Shadoweh(0):
Mirhawk(1): beastcharizard
Lying Scum(0):
Interdimensional Arsehole(4): KingdomAces, MafiaSSK, Bulbazak, Bert
Oversoul(0):
Rubicon(0):
beastcharizard(2): Lying Scum, morph the cat
gameplay506(3): , Rubicon, Oversoul, Mirhawk
No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(0):

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

[Interdimensional Arsehole]

6 hours to deadline and we are the leading wagon. I will discuss something with shos

[Lying Scum]

jesus fuck

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bulbazak

*shakes fist at bc* I'll get you next time, Gadget. Next time!

[shos]

shit guys, there's NO FUCKING TIME

if it wasn't clear enough, we are a fucking flavor cop. I hereby demand to be docced tonight

now there is FIVE HOURS TO DEADLINE SO PLEAAASSEEE can people vote bulba