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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:37 am

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Except it won't be a mislynch!
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:53 am

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CES, what do you think of your brother?
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:54 am

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In post 1567, chamber wrote:Glork what do you currently think of UT?
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:55 am

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In post 1648, MrBuddyLee wrote:I doubt Spyrex is scum, for various reasons.
??? explain ???
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:24 am

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I like the fact that ABR presented a case on VitR. I feel though it's a great case if you start from the point of view that VitR is scum, but not so good if you start from VitR from a town perspective. He could have a point with the defensive posts and the posting just to post but I'm far from convinced. I will not be voting VitR today.

DGB: I find it interesting that you (imo, falsly) attacked VitR and myself for polling the thread about a lynch when you blatantly are doing that in .

I'm not going to restate the case on her, but
Vote: DGB
. There's a couple of people I'd lynch if I had to but I'm getting tired of this. I hope I'm not getting tripped up in DGB's zaniness, but I'm feeling fairly confident that DGB will turn up red...it just gets harder and harder for me to see the alternative as even remotely likely.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:05 am

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Let's give this game some of my time.

feels off in various ways.
In post 1597, VitaminR wrote:mathcam's reads pretty genuine to me. Not a fan of this wagon.
It's genuine in a way that doesn't make him town though. Scum thinking that the attack on them is based on alignment-independent is something that totally happens and being annoyed at not being able to get someone like ABR lynched is something that I associate with scum.

ABR's case is wrong on all counts, really.
In post 1651, chamber wrote:CES, what do you think of your brother?
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In post 1654, Save The Dragons wrote:DGB: I find it interesting that you (imo, falsly) attacked VitR and myself for polling the thread about a lynch when you blatantly are doing that in .
She's not actually doing the same thing as VitaminR and you though?

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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:07 am

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In post 1654, Save The Dragons wrote:DGB: I find it interesting that you (imo, falsly) attacked VitR and myself for polling the thread about a lynch when you blatantly are doing that in 1641.
We're getting close to a deadline and the main wagons are stalling.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:08 am

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@ CES

Do you think STD is town?
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:10 am

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My main issue with the mathcam wagon is that our claimed masons are on the counter wagon.
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:14 am

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In post 1657, DrippingGoofball wrote:@ CES

Do you think STD is town?
No. He's always made sense as a LmL-bus target to me and he's made a few posts recently with some really awkward attacks in them.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:20 am

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In post 1655, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote: feels off in various ways.
Is it the names? That was meant to be an echo, in case that wasn't clear.
In post 1655, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
In post 1654, Save The Dragons wrote:DGB: I find it interesting that you (imo, falsly) attacked VitR and myself for polling the thread about a lynch when you blatantly are doing that in .
She's not actually doing the same thing as VitaminR and you though?
Um...of course she isn't. She presented argument: "polling the town is suspicious." She accused us of doing that (and only us. I don't think we were the only ones, but I'm not sure). I dislike the fact that she argues this and then days later does this. I'll admit it was kind of a heat of the moment shot, but it seems consistent with her posting a lot distracting content.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:37 am

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Except the core of what she was saying made sense. Whereas you're complaining about a fairly normal post.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:39 am

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UNVOTE: MBL
VOTE: Glork

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In post 1653, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1648, MrBuddyLee wrote:I doubt Spyrex is scum, for various reasons.
??? explain ???
Why are you acting incredulous about this statement, when before today you confidently asserted that slot as town.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:41 am

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In post 1662, Green Crayons wrote:Why are you acting incredulous about this statement, when before today you confidently asserted that slot as town.
I wouldn't say
confidently
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:47 am

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What did you think about my earlier theory about Nat's exit post indicating that it was probably a ("boring") town slot?
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:48 am

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In post 1661, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Except the core of what she was saying made sense. Whereas you're complaining about a fairly normal post.
Then I suppose I disagree with you there.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:00 am

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I feel overwhelmed by the large number of arguments against a large number of disparate targets, and I don't think I have the time or energy to go through each one to suss it all out. Apologies for the apathy.

Currently, my not-necessarily-logically-justified stance is that I'd be
Fine lynching: UT, Glork, MBL, VitR, DGB. CES
Meh lynching: Chamber, porochaz, CTD, GC, Boo, ABR(!)
Not happy lynching: Spyrex, sotty, yos, PJ, undo, Yos, mathcam, KK
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:41 am

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In post 1639, Glork wrote:KK, please indicate where I "swore" that anyone was of a particular alignment.
In post 1647, Kublai Khan wrote:I disagree with the SpyreX lynch. It's a dense long game and SpyreX is really good when he's town. Lynching the slot as a compromise when good wagons exist is a scum push.
Hey sleazeball, how's about you answer my question.


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In post 1567, chamber wrote:Glork what do you currently think of UT?
Glork wrote:I'm not voting mathcam because I'm not convinced that he's scum. I think that all (but maybe one?) of your remaining scum will be found among {MBL, UT, STD, CES, VitR}
I would have thought this was a sufficient enough answer... I think there's a very good chance UT is scum.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:06 am

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In post 1664, mathcam wrote:What did you think about my earlier theory about Nat's exit post indicating that it was probably a ("boring") town slot?
That's my theory also - but after 5 replacements and now SpyreX lurking, my faith is shaken.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:07 am

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In post 1667, Glork wrote:I think there's a very good chance UT is scum.
That's what I've been saying but everyone calls him town.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:25 am

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In post 1655, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
In post 1597, VitaminR wrote:mathcam's reads pretty genuine to me. Not a fan of this wagon.
It's genuine in a way that doesn't make him town though. Scum thinking that the attack on them is based on alignment-independent is something that totally happens and being annoyed at not being able to get someone like ABR lynched is something that I associate with scum.
I get what you're saying, but complaining about no one taking his scumhunting seriously seems like a townie thing to do to me. Why get upset if you're scum? You'd know that your case was wrong (unless you're bussing, I guess).
In post 1650, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Except it won't be a mislynch!
Ha, and here I was thinking that a sincere appeal to you would net more than a throwaway one-line response.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:35 am

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I still think Glork is not a bad bet for today. I have a feeling people are reading him as town because he's been throwing around a ton of self-meta today. If you look past that, his scumhunting has been kinda minimal and lacking in follow-through. Doesn't feel like townGlork on some level.

I am also starting to grow increasingly suspicious of Sotty7. Though I find myself agreeing with her a lot of time, she's been kinda cautious and under the radar all game, not making any waves. Sort of reminds me of myself as scum.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:48 am

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In post 1670, VitaminR wrote: Ha, and here I was thinking that a sincere appeal to you would net more than a throwaway one-line response.
No, that doesn't work when you're self-aware.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:59 am

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In post 1668, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1664, mathcam wrote:What did you think about my earlier theory about Nat's exit post indicating that it was probably a ("boring") town slot?
That's my theory also - but after 5 replacements and now SpyreX lurking, my faith is shaken.
I was hoping nobody was going to say anything about this before the slot claimed. (I didn't catch mathcam's original post on point, only DGB's mentioning of the point.) I did some forums searching and Nat's favorite role is roleblocker and some other night-action town-aligned role. (Pulling from memory at this point.) I think that indicates she doesn't like VT and vanilla scum roles.

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In post 1667, Glork wrote:I think there's a very good chance UT is scum.
That's what I've been saying but everyone calls him town.
I don't remember either of y'all filling out this template w/r/t UT:


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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:02 pm

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Tomorrow will be one of the most epic mislynches. Last minute scrambles always end up in dead townies.
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