Could be because I havent read the fucking game.In post 720, geists wrote:You're spitballing things, but you're not commenting on some of the more significant-looking interactions in the game.In post 718, Svenskt Stål wrote:I focus onfferbecause she is thebest town player behindbrohawkin this lineup.
I hve no intention of voting geists on day one, no matter how strong I townred the slot. I am just spitballing things that I notice, and I put more focus on players likeprohawk,ffer,mastinandmajiffybecause I respect their game alot.
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>:(In post 723, geists wrote:
I think ffer was the first abbreviation of my screen name on ms. fery came next.T S O wrote:it kinda annoys me when you call her ffer - ffery's cool, fferylt's cool, but ffer does my OCD no good.
Yeah, but I'm allowed to fluffpost. I'm both posting content and fluff. They're not mutually exclusive concepts.In post 724, Venmar wrote:
Your post above this this quoted one is a good example (#721). When I say "In General", I really do mean it.In post 722, T S O wrote:Dear Venmar,
How exactly am I giving the impression of doing something but not actually doing it? Please give examples.
Love, TSO"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Let me know when you have, plz.In post 725, Svenskt Stål wrote:
Could be because I havent read the fucking game.In post 720, geists wrote:
You're spitballing things, but you're not commenting on some of the more significant-looking interactions in the game.In post 718, Svenskt Stål wrote:I focus onfferbecause she is thebest town player behindbrohawkin this lineup.
I hve no intention of voting geists on day one, no matter how strong I townred the slot. I am just spitballing things that I notice, and I put more focus on players likeprohawk,ffer,mastinandmajiffybecause I respect their game alot.-
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I havent expressed a desire to do so.In post 729, geists wrote:Can't compare notes when you haven't read the game.-
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I expect mastin to give the read, whereas I was sarcastically telling YnB they could do what they wanted.
"Subtly implying you're Town, scum!" is terrible. I can quote at least 10 examples where I've seen town say it.
cmon ap bigger better stronger"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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I know. I did.In post 732, Svenskt Stål wrote:
I havent expressed a desire to do so.In post 729, geists wrote:Can't compare notes when you haven't read the game.-
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Yes, nothing is a surefire lolomng scumtell. Town is capable of doing things that scum often do. In this case, I think it was scummy because you went out of your way to bring up Another Awesome Alliteration Adventure for no real reason. Instead of trying to figure out what Egg was seeing about you that felt weird, you throw up some scum meta and imply that you must be town here because of Egg's feeling. Which makes it scummy. Also your defense that town is also capable of saying this is scummy and kind of stripping the context away and focusing on defending the case on you.In post 733, T S O wrote:"Subtly implying you're Town, scum!" is terrible. I can quote at least 10 examples where I've seen town say it.
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Egg misread me in AAAA and when he said I felt different, the "not-different" TSO he knew could only have came from that game, where I was scum. Therefore, the comment wasn't out of my way whatsoever."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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I honestly cant remember my last scum game, ive been pulling town for ages. But when i am scum im usually very calculated and active. I lead town, rarely get lynched.In post 714, Svenskt Stål wrote:shos,
I hate to ask for stuff when i have contributed so little to the game, but could you please link me to your latest scum game, also if you could describe yourself and your approach to being scum.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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What the hell is this crap where you and Mist act like its odd to have multiple scumreads?In post 711, Squirrel Girl wrote:
So do you no longer scumread Abomination? Or is the AngryIce read in addition to that?In post 708, Nero Cain wrote:yes, you
Still think Abomination is scum.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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So you think Shos is town now?In post 710, Young and Beautiful wrote:Leave the scum-killing to the vigsOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Twenty-eight players and multiple hydrae of varying sizes make for quite a large game!
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Dealwithit.In post 625, Young and Beautiful wrote:I like Venmar. He agrees with me.
I dislike Always. Snape is overrated.
Except I was. Bluntly. 172 was an off scumgame for one reason and one reason only:In post 635, Egg wrote:And your logic there was ridiculously flawed there. And it's because you weren't being legitimate.
I was focusing on Tales of You to the detriment of 172. (Plus real-life stuff aside from Tales of You, interfering further. Basically, I spent an unhealthy amount of time on Tales of You, and of the little time I had left, I was left playing catch-up in real-life which placed a considerable amount of stress on me, leaving even less time for me in 172.)
Had that not been the case, 172 would have been one of my STRONGEST scumgames of the year, 'cause guess what? I was nailing nearly every single point of my town meta (including being RIDICULOUSLY legitimate) for the most part. (People keep on trying to use 172 as an example of how to read a scuMastin, failing to realize that they only caught half the picture of scuMastin, and that the far more important half was left unexecuted. L4D is a better example of my scumplay, which I got a scummy nom for that very dang reason. Anything Goes was another, because it was my best scumgame at the time. Which is one of the reasons I'm getting tired of landing the same town role PMs over and over again--I keep on ranting at people who think they have any clue whatsoever what my scumplay is, yet I'm not getting the chance to show them just how so utterly WRONG they are about it. L4D did a decent job of deconstructing peoples' erroneous image of my scumplay, but not nearly a good enough job.)
The majority of the reasons raised for me being scum came from (1) reasons that were null (e.g. my posting elsewhere while not in the game was scum, when that was as mentioned thanks to Tales of You), (2) reasons that were flat-out wrong and I simply never got the chance to counter, or (3) reasons that have a sliver of truth to them, but would have been easily shut down because said sliver of truth would be at most a 55/45 scumtell. Your AP-saw-it-too example is crap, too, because AP was playing to his wincon in buddying you via that statement.
When I say I saw something.
I saw that something.
When I say I'd see that something as town.
I'd have seen that something as town.
And know why I know this?
Because I'm the strongest advocate of scum NOT assuming they'd see something as town. I'm a strong advocate for scum players hiding their scum wincon. If you read my MD theory, it is literally plastered with ramble after ramble about that aspect of scum play: town players are dumber than you think, including yourself-as-town. So that thing you thought you'd see as town, you probably wouldn't. My lesson. Words I preach. Words I know. Words I practice. On an active basis. I know them better than anyone else. So I put them into play. With lethal efficiency. Seeing something and discarding it, if there's so much as a plausibility my town-self wouldn't see it.
So when I say that I saw something, and that something is something I'd see as town...and I chose to comment on it, rather than discarding it. Know what that means of said something?
I saw it SO strongly. SO damn strongly. That there is literally no chance in hell I'd have not seen it as town, and claiming ignorance of it would have been a scumclaim in itself.
Yes, there is. It's not off of you. It's off of all other players surrounding you. Circumstantial townreads are still townreads.And there is absolutely no way you can have a town read on me before I even posted here.
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Sorry, there's been a lot of storms lately that have been messing with my internet to the point only IMing has been working well. I have a few pages to catch up on which I hope to get to tonight, but no promises.V/LA all day tomorrowXalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
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It's not nothing, it's something. Something I just so happen to not desire to reveal.In post 636, T S O wrote:Do -you- have any reason why, you know, you're being hard townread by mastin for nothing? I don't.
Clyton's town. I'd wagon any of the others, though. (Would probably end up ditching from the AIRwagon, though, 'cause of my treat-AP-as-if-town-until-strong-reason-otherwise callout. In that he's nullish and that's not the best place to be and a wagon might help, but I'm not sure it would.)In post 655, geists wrote:xofelf is my strongest scumread.
maybe Y&B, maybe Clyton, maybe AngryIceRink (but that read is starting to fade a little).
Tons of nulls I have no idea how to sort if they don't post more.
I'll wagon that.
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For the record. I don't recall where, but I do recall PV talking to someone else about a hydra, and the name Birds of Prey mighta been mentioned at some point.In post 694, geists wrote:Now who knows PV well enough to hydra with him...
Btw: NOW the game's interesting.
We can count the shos wagon as the main wagon.
And now a xofelf (counter)wagon forms.
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Xof literally said V/LA in the post before you voted her >.<
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I was actually seeking clarification, since you called out the scum on your wagon and only indicated Furious Frozen Water. Do you honestly think it's 2 scum and 1 town currently on you? Meh. I'm pretty happy with my vote on you.In post 739, Nero Cain wrote:
What the hell is this crap where you and Mist act like its odd to have multiple scumreads?In post 711, Squirrel Girl wrote:
So do you no longer scumread Abomination? Or is the AngryIce read in addition to that?In post 708, Nero Cain wrote:yes, you
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