Micro 353: Greatest Idea Mafia! (Game Over!)

[JerryArr]

Micro 353 Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 2.02

Maruchan (1): Rob13

Not voting: Not_Mafia, Maestro, 1baldeagle1, Maruchan

Day 1 deadline is 16 July, 2014 at 10 PM EDT, or in {(expired on 2014-07-16 22:00:00)}.
There are 5 living players, it takes 3 votes to lynch or no lynch.

NOTES:

Nothing of note to report.

[Maestro]

Rob, why Maru over NM?
since we're the only ones doing much

looks like we kinda decide the fucking game

so I hope your'e Town

[tn5421]

Bah! Humbug!

[Not_Mafia]

@maruchan Did you really think Beast was scum day 1 or were you voting for pressure?

[Rob14]

I kind of talked myself into a more null read on NM in my last post.

[Maruchan]

not having a terribly good day. Got woken up at 1AM to my phone AND the Base PA system (usually used to sing the national anthem at sunset and sunrise) blaring about tornado warning hitting naval station norfolk, and now all day today we've been under hurricane/tropical storm warnings, with intermittent blaring of the base PA's system. I distinctly remember SOMEBODY asking me a question, what was it?

[Rob14]

Literally look two posts above yours.

[Maruchan]

@maruchan Did you really think Beast was scum day 1 or were you voting for pressure?

OH THAT

I was voting him because he was a mason with a lyncher mason, so I figured he should die because the masons weren't guaranteed town, so he needed to die.

[Rob14]

…what?

Literally what?

So much what

The what does not compute

So because someone is not guaranteed town, you should lynch them? I just … what?

[Rob14]

I don't think this is alignment indicative, by the way, but seriously, whaaaaaaaaat

[Maruchan]

…what?

Literally what?

So much what

The what does not compute

So because someone is not guaranteed town, you should lynch them? I just … what?

I don't think this is alignment indicative, by the way, but seriously, whaaaaaaaaat

Well because the first mason wasn't town, so I figured that if someone were to crunch numbers and stats and whatnot, there were good odds the second mason wasn't town. I mean it makes sense. One dead mason has flipped and outted his budy, and was anti-town. SPEAKING OF WHICH, did they REALLY both pick the same cards, or was that some mod-shenanigans to make them both lynchers? Like was one a town mason and one a lyncher mason, and then since they were mason'd together the mod gave them both a lyncher wincon? Or did two people happen to BOTH pick lyncher mason in the same game out of three possible cards? What's the likelyhood here?

TWO lyncher cards, and 8 mason cards? And the way the lyncher cards worked, is they would have had differing targets as well.


So I figured beast was a good lynch.

[1baldeagle1]

Maestro, are we going to do the number thing or what?

Also, I kinda understand Maru's logic behind lynching beast, but Aronis was a better lynch at the time, even though he flipped town.

[Maestro]

I'm not doing the "number thing" until you all contribute more to the claim conversation / finish the claim chain we already had in place
Maru's logic is completely invalid - it's not like they were Lovers or a Scumteam, there's no reason AT ALL that " Mason1 = notTown ∴ Mason2 = notTown "

( yes, the odds that they both get Lyncher AND Mason in some form are pretty low, but it obviously happened and it would be completely inappropriate for the Mod to intervene in the way he described )

[Rob14]

Not sure if Maru is stupid town or scum covering their ass. Right now, I'm going to go with the latter.

[Maruchan]

I've always played mafia were the masonbloc was a team, that essentially worked towards the same goal, and had a similar wincon. I've never played a mafia game where masons were opposing factions. so I figured if one mason is lyncherscum, why cant second mason be scum.

[Rob14]

Why can't any player in the game be mafia? Why does the fact that they're a mason make this chance any more likely?

[Maruchan]

because one mason already flipped anti-town. How does that NOT make it more likely his partner is anti-town? AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE EXITED LYNCHER MASON #2!!!!!

[Maestro]

They both

chose

their PRs independently...
They both

chose

their alignment independently...

BEFORE either of them knew there was another Mason

How are you not understanding how what you're saying makes no sense?

[Maestro]

Even if they weren't choosing, the way Great/er/est Ideas are set up, the Roles are given out

COMPLETELY RANDOMLY

Emphasis on that last bit - there's no "likelihood increasing" here, randomness is exactly what distributes most game setups and in this game setup is the be all and end all

all we can do is hold people to what they claim and try and piece together Actions with in-thread words

[Maestro]

now

STOP

defending an opinion I personally don't care about
Maru shot nonTown, why is it even a problem for you people?

THIS IS ALL WIFOM AND STUPID BULLSHIT DISTRACTING FROM THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TWO TURKEYS NOT CLAIMING OR DOING ANYTHING ELSE OF USE OTHER THAN HARPING ON A D1 PUBLIC KILL THAT ENDED UP BEING NONTOWN WHY IS THIS HAPPENING YOU GUYS

[Maruchan]

I thought everyone had already claimed? Those that haven't claimed need to claim.

[Maestro]

maybe I missed them idk I'll do a reread

[Not_Mafia]

I'm going to trust in Bald Eagle's towniness for now and propose this. Maestro is moving back up my scum list for this pointless noise about the randomisation and how zomg no one is doing anything, his outrage looks forced to me. I say lynch him

Bald jailkeeps Maru/Rob
I roleblock the other

If there's no support and we lynch Maru/Rob

Bald Jailkeeps Maru/Rob
I target Maestro, which will at least fully verify the aesetic part of his claim

[Rob14]

Maru/NM scumteam confirmed

[1baldeagle1]

I'm not doing the "number thing" until you all contribute more to the claim conversation / finish the claim chain we already had in place
Maru's logic is completely invalid - it's not like they were Lovers or a Scumteam, there's no reason AT ALL that " Mason1 = notTown ∴ Mason2 = notTown "

( yes, the odds that they both get Lyncher AND Mason in some form are pretty low, but it obviously happened and it would be completely inappropriate for the Mod to intervene in the way he described )

I believe everyone has claimed already and what is there to talk about? I think Maru is a scum dayvig because he recklessly used his shot, I believe Rob, Maestro and NM's claims since NM's result matches up with Maestro's claim and I liked Rob's gambit, so I'm pretty sure it's Maru.