NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[BroodKingEXE]

The only reason why I think Boon would bus Clusk is that Clusk is replacing out and they don't want a weak replace that likely won't survive anyway.

[BroodKingEXE]

@Mod: When the mafia submits actions and a player is replacing, does mafia get to make actions in place of said player?

[TheAdrienC]

I'm home for a couple of hours. I can hammer if it needs to be done.

[Aegor]

What claims would make a difference? Would we not lynch him if he claimed, say, doctor? Obviously the replacement would just claim that (or something like that) as scum anyway. I will hammer.

[Aegor]

vote clusk-

HS is typical mindset of what I am used to, makes sense to me, but hey, folks want to harp on the shit, what I am to say differently

What does this mean? Please be more specific.

[BroodKingEXE]

What claims would make a difference? Would we not lynch him if he claimed, say, doctor? Obviously the replacement would just claim that (or something like that) as scum anyway. I will hammer.

There might be a chance we could verify it, if he is lying he'll get found out later anyway. Otherwise we risk losing a PR.

[Aegor]

And risk letting scum live for another day with no guarantee that we will actually be able to verify the PR claim.

[BroodKingEXE]

I personally wanna hear the mod's answer before I'm willing to hammer.

[Cabd]

(For the record to whoever asks who replaces into slots at L-1; I do that all the time?)

[TheAdrienC]

His opening post had this gem.

"If a replacement occurs during Night, the Night will continue for 24 hours after the replacement is complete (unless this would make it shorter than usual)."

So

I would assume

the replacement would get the same amount of say as anyone else would about night actions if he was scum. I think our moderator has gone to bed for the night, and at this point, I severely doubt someone is going to replace that slot (P-Edit: It's a shame you replaced Sally instead then).

As for relationships, he did bicker a lot with Farside and Salamence over if Salamence was manipulating someone to vote a certain way and did vote for but at the same time, question others who were voting for Wake. It's not like there's no interaction whatsoever.

[Cabd]

It's a shame you replaced Sally instead then

Eh I prefer replacing into town slots. I only like being mafia from the start because I can shape the way people's reads are formed. It's one of the reasons I was so obvscum in KOTR mafia. Ask aegor. Or farside.

[TheAdrienC]

Freudian slipping that your town...or was that on purpose...

[Cabd]

Even if it wasn't intentional, it's purely alignment neutral?

[TheAdrienC]

Fine. I am considering just pulling the trigger and hammering him. It's been almost 48 hours since the replacement was requested.

[Aeronaut]

It's null because replacements don't know the alignment until once they're in already.

[Cabd]

It's null because replacements don't know the alignment until once they're in already.

This is actually slightly untrue; I usually have read the game and formed a read on the slot I'm replacing into before I do it. Star Wars was just the mod REAAAAAAALLLY needing it and it was obvious scum, and so i kept it alive a day knowing i'd not make it to LYLO.

[Aegor]

Eh I prefer replacing into town slots. I only like being mafia from the start because I can shape the way people's reads are formed. It's one of the reasons I was so obvscum in KOTR mafia. Ask aegor. Or farside.

Although that game should suffer

damnatio memoriae

, it is true.

[BroodKingEXE]

It's null because replacements don't know the alignment until once they're in already.

It's scummy for him to replace amidst the controversy, because we can't ask him about his posts anymore. If I were to make a case on sala, it's a lot weaker cause sala can't respond.

[BroodKingEXE]

The only reason why I think Boon would bus Clusk is that Clusk is replacing out and they don't want a weak replace that likely won't survive anyway.

Anyone have an opinion on this scenario?

[Aegor]

Why bother speculating?

[Cabd]

The only reason why I think Boon would bus Clusk is that Clusk is replacing out and they don't want a weak replace that likely won't survive anyway.

Anyone have an opinion on this scenario?

Possible, but I don't think that's an angle i'd see a scum player thinking of more than just "fuck it, I need to bus" and letting the rest work out from there; regardless? I don't see any scumteam making that a pre-meditated worry/priority.

[Cabd]

Like aegor said it's pointless until we have a flip, regardless.

[TheAdrienC]

But like I said, it's been two whole days since he requested his replacement. Is there a point where we just say that it's not coming?

P-Edit: It's definitely a possible theory that can't be ruled out but I don't think we can say it's absolutely definite. If clusk flips scum, we might want to look at boon.

[Aegor]

VOTE: clusk

[Aegor]

feels soooooooooooooo good to Aegor....