NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[Not_Mafia]

Stagnation is bad for games. This is stagnation

[Wake1]

~ I think we are still fine; continue to distance with me without seeming obvious and it will have the same effect.

~ TSO is the most dangerous player inherently, and he suspects me. He would be a solid choice, and you can bus me if things go south tomorrow.

~ Lead the crusade against me tomorrow if there is NK analysis, but I do not think we need to bus unnecessarily. One thing that decent players notice is soft defending in such situations, so either defend hard or bus hard (I recommend the latter).

Some insight into Scum-Aegor.

[Aegor]

Does anyone else have experience with Scum-Aegor?

Mini 1574: Mountainous Mafia with Daytalk

Here is the Scum QT including Aegor: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/qsuPJrPAFqi2

I will help you out.

Micro 235 -- replaced in as scum
Open 535 -- replaced in as scum, hardclaimed scum, and drew (lol)
Open 540
Micro 280
Micro 341

I think there were one or two earlier ones, but those are all my most recent games.

[reinoe]

I'm just an idiot. And I don't like that Reinoe is targeting the so-called VI's. Also, anyone find it suspicious how he changed his vote from me to Hunter

after

I voted Hunter?

Let me fix that for you Boon...

Why is reinoe pushing for the lynch of people who are acting like anti-town idiots? I'm Boon and I'm selectively ignoring the fact that reinoe was pushing for Hunter yesterday and instead I'm going to create paranoia and WIFOM

Yeah, if Hunterseeker turns out to be town, I'm fine with looking deeper into Boon. This whole "reinoe is voting AFTER me" is such an utterly bullshit point. It doesn't even mean anything but he's trying to make it mean something.

[Aeronaut]

Aegor

is pushing way too hard for this lynch, is contradicting himself, and is deflecting questions rather than providing content.

How am I not providing content? I have explained very clearly why I want HS dead. I have wanted him dead since yesterday. I compromised on Clusk near deadline.

Just because you do not like the lynch does not mean that I have not been doing anything. If you have questions about why HS is a good lynch, ask. If you feel that my ISO is vacuous, you clearly have not read it.

What makes this a decent wagon?

Read my posts.

The fact that he's only one vote short of ending the day?

Read my posts.

So you're allowed to ignore questions by just saying "Read my posts"? Nah, that shit ain't gonna fly.

VOTE: Aegor

[Wake1]

Yeah, I agree with Aeronaut's 1729.

No one's going to tell me to look through their long ISO instead of asking basic fuckinging questions, and get away with it. I will not tolerate that crap.

VOTE: Aegor

[Not_Mafia]

Again. It is a basic expectation that you read a game you have been in since the beginning and it is not the onus of other to do your work for you. And this pointless hostility is exactly the kind of apathy inducing thing that we do not need in a stagnating game.

[Not_Mafia]

And even if Aegor is scum, it's not because of this.

[Aeronaut]

Again. It is a basic expectation that you read a game you have been in since the beginning and it is not the onus of other to do your work for you. And this pointless hostility is exactly the kind of apathy inducing thing that we do not need in a stagnating game.

I'm not really trying to be hostile, and if I am, then I don't mean that. I agree, everyone should read the game, but Shadows asked what I think are legitimate questions, and Aegor passed them off without really trying to answer them. I've had to repeat myself loads of times, and so has Aegor. I understand how that's frustrating, but he could have very easily just quoted himself or linked to a post, instead of refusing to give information at all. So yea, when Aegor is asked to explain himself, and just says "read my posts", it comes off pretty Anti-town to me.

[Not_Mafia]

I wasn't referring to you about the hostility Aero, you're fine in that regard, should have been more clear.

[Aegor]

So you're allowed to ignore questions by just saying "Read my posts"? Nah, that shit ain't gonna fly.

I am providing the response the questions merit.

[Aegor]

No one's going to tell me to look through their long ISO instead of asking basic fuckinging questions, and get away with it. I will not tolerate that crap.

Strange, given that you expect everyone to tolerate your dumb-ass "reaction strategies" that have borne no fruit whatsoever. I would think that asking you to read the game would be a reasonable request, but I guess not.

What else would you like to be spoon-fed?

[Juls]

I'm seriously considering replacing out. I don't think I have ever played with such a group of unenjoyable players. Obviously there are exceptions but this game is not very fun for me at all.

[Aeronaut]

I'm seriously considering replacing out. I don't think I have ever played with such a group of unenjoyable players. Obviously there are exceptions but this game is not very fun for me at all.

I really don't feel that way, but I'm sorry if anything I said is making the game less enjoyable for you.


That goes for anyone. I don't like games where people are disinterested, period. I'm not going to talk about it anymore, just wanted to get that out before we got too far.

[Juls]

You're not unenjoyable, just scum.

[Boonskiies]

I mean, I keep up on the thread a lot, and a lot of the time I just don't have anything to say. I like to post to keep the thread going, but I guess when I do, people like Reinoe just hard on want me dead.

[Aegor]

Juls,

Just wait until game-tomorrow and make a decision then.



I will 1-1 HS. Just please, please, someone hammer.

[Aeronaut]

Juls,

Just wait until game-tomorrow and make a decision then.



I will 1-1 HS. Just please, please, someone hammer.

What does it mean that you'll "1-1" HS. I legitimately don't understand what it means, sorry

[Aegor]

It means that you guys are annoying me. Hammer HS and if he flips town, I will offer myself up to the town tomorrow, my life for his, i.e. our lives are one-to-one or one-for-one.

[Aegor]

Either way, you get what you want (unless you are scum): a lynched scum or a lynched Aegor.

[Juls]

He's volunteering to be lynched if HS is town. But it's probably not the wisest move to lynch Aegor even if HS is town. There are way scummier people then Aegor. This whole game has been people equating attitude with scuminess and that is just not so. Take Boon for instance. He got attacked like crazy because he was jokey jokey. That is why I think he is town because so many people jumped on him early.

[Wake1]

Isn't HS still at L-1?

Find someone else to push through your reckless lynch.

[Juls]

Oh my God, I don't believe in policy lynches but Wake makes me want to change that belief.

[Mirhawk]

Aegor and NM have the right in this.

Nobody else is getting lynched today, there simply isn't the will.

The counterwagon to this is Aegor? Yeah I seriously doubt you're going to find eight more votes to make that happen. At least not me, Aegor's way more likely to be town then the people pushing his wagon.

The only other viables are Boonskiies and Adrien. But there isn't enough support for any of these either.

Nobody's offering a viable option to the HS wagon. At least one that has a chance of happening.

[reinoe]

Oh my God, I don't believe in policy lynches but Wake makes me want to change that belief.

It's ok to have more than one or two scumreads.