Mini 1576 - Timeshift Mafia II - Endgame

[Tammy]

I'm not really concerned. We're at evens anyway.

[Bulbazak]

I just want to point out that Anatole started d4 discrediting my reads, and now he's ending d4 discrediting my reads. We lynch him or PV tomorrow.

[Bert]

Yeah evens.

Not as bad as it seems

[Anatole Kuragin]

I just want to point out that Anatole started d4 discrediting my reads, and now he's ending d4 discrediting my reads. We lynch him or PV tomorrow.

so have you had any successful reads? because the two you have been most adamant about all game are clearly 100% wrong

[Anatole Kuragin]

and peregrine is probably town, which we should know for sure if there aren't two kills? no way with that claim he isn't either vig or sk

[Anatole Kuragin]

so 3 failed reads

[Tammy]

Could have done without the 5 prior pages.

I don't understand the resistance to a massclaim, even if we have a serial killer.

We're down two scum. If we don't have a serial killer, we're only looking for one more person.

Also, if someone claims vig, and someone not claiming vig would give us a whole hell of a lot of information, if the game's not over when we lynch the third mafia, then we know it's a serial killer. Messiah Complex did not shoot himself, and if it's a vig, they have no reason not to claim that shot.

It gives us more information on the setup that way. I didn't say anything about a missing kill last night, but Bulba jumping to that makes me think if there is a serial killer then he's probably it and something happened to his shot.

There was only one death last night, which means either the vig is one-shot or something happened to their kill or they're a sk with an errant shot.

Mafia has ALREADY made their choice for who they killed last night, so it's not like they can go back and change it and kill someone different if someone claims something the mafia would rather have dead. They'll still be here.

If we have a better understanding of the setup, then maybe we can finish this today, unless there's a serial killer and our hunt will still go on.

Also, think about it. If it's a serial killer, he has no real interest in lynching the final mafia because then he's out there alone for the rest of the game. He'll want the last mafia around so that he has a better shot of winning the game.

I just don't see any downside whatsoever.

I know you don't like hearing this, but THIS is the Tammy I like.

FTR this reaction to my push for a mass claim makes no sense whatsoever from a VIG who claims to not liking claiming unless necessary and then decides to claim vt.

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Singer - a mass claim did happen. Also it is weird that you were self-declaring as town. It's null if it's part of your playstyle. But if it's not, then no it's not normal it's weird. There are a few of us who call ourselves town as part of our playstyle, but as far as I know you're not one of us who do that. You didn't do it when you replaced in to quickness, and you unpromptingly just going "I'm pretty town" reads off. If you're known for doing it then *shrug*. If you're not, then why were you just randomly spouting that you're town?

[Tammy]

ok.

im not opposed to a no lynch, which is something i stated a week ago when we were still under the impression that there was 100% an SK alive

it confirms bulba somewhat (outside paranoia) if we operate under the assumption that anatole is town JK, but this even number 8 alive thing is annoying though. even if scum JK, then that means bulba town

scum can totally no kill and frame bulba though soooooooooo

They already made their kills for last night.

[Anatole Kuragin]

ok.

im not opposed to a no lynch, which is something i stated a week ago when we were still under the impression that there was 100% an SK alive

it confirms bulba somewhat (outside paranoia) if we operate under the assumption that anatole is town JK, but this even number 8 alive thing is annoying though. even if scum JK, then that means bulba town

scum can totally no kill and frame bulba though soooooooooo

They already made their kills for last night.

beat you to it

[PeregrineV]

FTR this reaction to my push for a mass claim makes no sense whatsoever from a VIG who claims to not liking claiming unless necessary and then decides to claim vt.

It was the way you said it. Distinctly 3-years-ago Tammy. You know I love your old meta.

[singersigner]

Fuck I can't read all this on my break now

Sorry if I messed up but like yeah if you're not gunna be a team player and knowingly exclude information that's kinda not cool but whatever maybe I can see it as town if I would've assumed differently

[D3f3nd3r]

Locking for VC.

[D3f3nd3r]

VC 4.8 (7/24/14 deadline)
PeregrineV (L-4) Singersigner
Bulbazak (L-5)
Anatole Kuragin (L-1) Studio 54, Bulbazak, Bert, Tammy
Bert (L-4) PeregrineV
Studio 54 (L-5)
Tammy (L-5)
Bbmolla (L-5)
Singersigner (L-5)
No Lynch (L-5)
Not Voting (2) Anatole Kuragin, Bbmolla

Deadline has passed. There was no lynch today. N4 begins, deadline Saturday at 8pm EDT.

[D3f3nd3r]

Studio 54, Town Timeshifted 1-Shot Bulletproof-Vest-Giver, was killed Night 4.

Day 5 begins. Deadline is 8/10 at 8am EDT.

[Bert]

Studio 54, Town Timeshifted 1-Shot Bulletproof-Vest-Giver, was killed Night 4.

Day 5 begins. Deadline is 8/10 at 8am EDT.

A Timeshifted modifier. Wake didn't have "Timeshifted" before "tracker."

In 1411 Timeshift, Mafia did not have the modifier, whereas SK did.

[Tammy]

I wonder if that's because he had an instantaneous action.

I still want to lynch pere or one of Anatole or bulbazack.

Thing is if pere is sk, then maybe both those roles could exist, but they feel op to exist with just a mafia team. Especially since they're claiming to be full. The "VIG" is one shot. The mafia roleblocker was only two-shot. The bp vest giver was one shot. Tracker was unlimited. Full doc and jk don't sound right.

BB help!

[Tammy]

Also BB please don't be scum

[Tammy]

I don't think you are, but.

[BBmolla]

I'm not

Doc needs to out action and then jailkeeper needs to out action

[Tammy]

Does strong arm kills reach past a jailkeeper?

[Tammy]

*do

[Bert]

Pete's flip is most informative about the likelihood of full Doc + JK

[BBmolla]

...Pete?

[Tammy]

I think he means pere.

[BBmolla]

I don't see a reason to disbelieve Pere's claim.

But idk