NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[Mirhawk]

Alina and Boon is Town vs Town. Also Alinskiies is easier to say, the extra A in the middle makes it sound kind of disjointed.

@Adrien & Aero
Just to be clear are either of you actually calling NM scum? Or are you just making indirect cuts at his credibility?

[Aeronaut]

Adrien or Aeronaut

are you going to explain your suspicions this time, or are you going to continue to post single sentences with no substance at all?

Go over his ISO. That's all he does.

Yea. Wow, I never really noticed until now, but a lot of his posts are sheeping or useless jabber. Almost every vote is a naked one as well.

Aeronaut for whiteknighting the HS lynch. also didn't like his reaction just now or to Reinoe's "reaction test" thing

My reaction to you not explaining yourself ever? You're not helping anybody by just throwing out names and pointing fingers without a hint of reasoning. All that does is cause unnecessary paranoia and taking the spotlight off of yourself. Supply an original opinion soon, because you're getting more anti-town by the moment.

P-edit: I can't even read Boon anymore. I'm really not sure my stance on him, but currently it's leaning town because of the thing with Reinoe. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but Its sort of a lead.

I've also decided I don't like SKOT's reactions lately... He's been pretty quiet, and I still don't believe that he really felt the need to claim D1 because of "pressure". I also don't believe Adrien's claim for the same reason. Planning on going through some of SKOT's other games to see if this has happened before.

[Aeronaut]

@Adrien & Aero
Just to be clear are either of you actually calling NM scum? Or are you just making indirect cuts at his credibility?

I called him Anti-town, Mirhawk. For somebody who makes a lot of indirect cuts, you sure hate indirect cuts.

[Mirhawk]

I didn't think the fact I thought you were scum was a secret.

Vote: Aeronaut

Anyways, I would probably call NM as pretty clearly town.

[TheAdrienC]

Alina and Boon is Town vs Town. Also Alinskiies is easier to say, the extra A in the middle makes it sound kind of disjointed.

@Adrien & Aero
Just to be clear are either of you actually calling NM scum? Or are you just making indirect cuts at his credibility?

Scum, maybe...maybe not. But I trust him less and less the more he posts without saying much.

[Aeronaut]

I didn't think the fact I thought you were scum was a secret.

Vote: Aeronaut

Anyways, I would probably call NM as pretty clearly town.

He's probably town, yes, but he's currently not

helping

the town. Anti-town. Learn the difference.

Inb4 NM sheeps that vote.

[Not_Mafia]

Nah my vote is on Adrien for as long as he refuses to respond to the case on him

[TheAdrienC]

Nah my vote is on Adrien for as long as he refuses to respond to the case on him

Let me go over how this process has been working, you little sheep. You guys attack. I respond to the attack. Someone counter attacks. I respond back to that. Then there's another counter attack and another attack and another attack and all I have been doing for a day phase and a half was defending myself and honestly, I'm not going to help find scum that way. I haven't been able to actually participate in any sort of scumhunting because I have to spend all my time telling people why I said something a certain way that they thought was fake. Frankly, it's getting exhausting.

Now, I have provided actual evidence based on the fact SKOT's claim doesn't match up with the other town PRs that have flipped and he is still alive. Why don't you focus on that instead of the "bad vibe" people got from my posts and everyone else decided to just sheep to it.

OR maybe you can do this thing that a lot of people in this game would prefer you to do and to actually think independently for once instead of sheeping Juls or Alina or anyone else.

[Not_Mafia]

I forgot how little pressure you need to flail

VOTE: TheWayItEnds

This was my biggest read day 1 and replacement could do with some pressure.

[Boonskiies]

FoS: Am_Mafia

[TheAdrienC]

FoS: Am_Mafia

You mind explaining that?

[TheWayItEnds]

Adrien for his bad claim and abject refusal to respond to the case on him.

Aeronaut for whiteknighting the HS lynch. also didn't like his reaction just now or to Reinoe's "reaction test" thing

What about his claim is bad? Where would I look to find the case on him?

Let me go read Aero's ISO.

[Boonskiies]

FoS: Am_Mafia

You mind explaining that?

No.

[TheWayItEnds]

Hey farside. Anything I do that looks scummy is a reaction test to generate discussion.

Hmm.... so you're telling us that every time you seem scummy, it's alright because you're just scumreading? Seems a bit shady.

....This reaction test thing?

Cause its almost the same thing as his post to Boon like 2 posts later..

It's a problem with my play. I always come off as scummy when I'm town. Even if I scumhunt to the max.

Is this a serious post? Because saying you "come off as scummy even when [you're] town" seems like quite the coverup.

... and I'm not having a problem with either of them.

As far as whiteknighting the HS lynch goes, half his ISO is him saying that HS is scummy, but probably a VI and he'd rather lynch someone else.

Like thats all he did all of day 2. Then he wanted to wait for a replacement for HS so he could claim. Then he swapped his vote after getting into an argument with someone about how no one else was getting lynched.

Im not seeing that being a whiteknight at all.

Is that really the case on him?

[Boonskiies]

I'm actually not sure what whiteknighting is. Is it when scum tries to protect townie?

[TheWayItEnds]

Its scum defending a scummy town so that when the town flips he gets town cred for defending him.

[TheAdrienC]

I'm actually not sure what whiteknighting is. Is it when scum tries to protect townie?

Something like that. It's when a scum, who knows that someone is town, basically defends a townie so that they look more town by protecting the townie.

P-Edit: Ninja'd

[Alina]

I decided to do the Aeronaut thing with the pretty colors so I could kinda get my reads more sorted out in my head. Top 3 and bottom 3 are semi-interchangeable.

Mirhawk
BP
Wake

Burning_TowN
Aeronaut
Juls

Not_Mafia
BroodKingEXE
TheWayItEnds
Aegor
Shaddowez

SKOT
Adrien
Boonskiies

I'm doing something wrong because I only have 3 scumreads when there are probably 4 or 5 left. But I'm starting to think my whole reads list is totally screwed up because I'm getting doubts with my want to lynch Boon or Adrien now and I feel like I'm missing something. I want to smash my head against a wall, really. Adrien's only not at the bottom because I can see his claim being real..otherwise he'd be there.

[Boonskiies]

Well, I'm not scum, so obv something's wrong there.

[Boonskiies]

And I'm very confused with your super town reads on BP, Aero, and Burning Town.

[Aeronaut]

Nah, I wasn't "WhiteKnighting" HS. I seriously thought he was town, and surprise surprise, I was right. Honestly, would someone who is scum act that idiotic? No. But in spite of that, it was pretty obvious that nothing was going to get done until he was gone, so he got lynched.

P-edit @Boon She said the middle ones are interchangeable.

[Alina]

Wake-BP-Mirhawk are interchangable actually. Same with Adrien-Boon-SKOT to a lesser extent.

BP is the only one of those three who I have a "super-town" read on. Aero and Burning Town are just leaning town for me. I'm honestly kind of surprised at how many people think Aero is scum to be honest because...I don't. At all. The stuff people use as a case/evidence, as TheWayItEnds said...is just...no. He's done nothing that makes me think he's scummy, really, except maybe for the apologizing for being wrong about Reinoe which gave me weird vibes but really that's likely just a personality thing. I would've done the same thing if I were him, to be honest. xD

[Not_Mafia]

And I'm very confused with your super town reads on BP, Aero, and Burning Town.

Why are the BP and Burning ones confusing?

[Boonskiies]

I don't believe they've said nearly enough to get a super town read quite yet, especially Burning Town. If anything I'd have Burning Town in the nearing scum read, but not completely convinced due to not enough evidence/debatable arguments. BP has sounded town with his posts, but I don't think it's super town sounding. Anyone can sound super town.

[Boonskiies]

Especially if you aren't posting all that often.