Mini 1576 - Timeshift Mafia II - Endgame

[singersigner]

Oh uh...ok

[singersigner]

Wait how does that figure? I can't think of any scenario where I'd be scum so I'm curious.

[Bert]

You're only scum if PV is too

Unless PV is mafia saving his own team's chances via claim and covering up for the real SK in the same breath during yesterday's PV wagon

I don't like lynching singer. Something tells me she not scum.

Say it ain't so!

[Anatole Kuragin]

bulba, just admit your reads this game have been off. I'm not trying to discredit you as a player but you are obviously misguided this game.

why wouldn't I try to discredit you when I know 100% you are wrong and have been before? there is actual proof that you can't read scumminess in this game and I know you are reading me wrong.

discrediting you will help save us another mislynch

pray tell, please tell me this is a sarcasm-riddled post and is a total joke.

I could have worded that better - I'm not discrediting his play in general, just his play in this particular game. because it's bad

[PeregrineV]

PV is basically as conftown as tammy after last night, why would you think otherwise?

Nope, nope, and nope. With the timeshift mechanic muddling things up, plus my role, there's no way we can easily write off the existance of a SK, and if it does exist, it HAS to be PV.

Since this makes absolutely no sense, please elaborate.

Targeted pie, molla, and bulba. Feel free to confirm/deny if you've had your shit blocked, bb and bulba.

Pie was kept n1 (n2 resolved-Messiah dead n2))

Molla was kept n2 (n3 resolved- Pie dead d3)

Bulba was kept n3 (n4 resolved)

Tammy was kept n4 (will resolve n5)

Kind of in a hurry because of work, but doesn't this clear Molla & Bulba, as in they could not have done the kills those nights?

1)

How does Pie dying d3 clear Molla?

2)

It's like you somehow know Pie was supposed to die n3, and are using that inside information to appear town and clear a player (who is more than likely town). 3) This is the same type of slip as Anatole saying I hadn't protected anyone, when there was only 1 kill n3, compared to n2's 2 kills.

1)

I didn't say Pie dying clears Molla. I was pointing out that Pie died day3, so he would not be able to kill n4, but Bert pointed out that Pie being alive night2 means he could have made the Pants nk (happened n3, submitted n2).

2)

Pie was lynched day 3.

3)

What slip? Anatole claims he jailkept you night 3, so the fact that Studio died clears you, unless he's lying about jailkeeping you. If that's the case, then why bother?

You and Bulba have tunneled me for what I see as pretty weak reasoning, a) you don't believe my claim, or b) I am indecisive.

Yes, because saying that there is no way there are 3 town protective roles and that your role was ripped straight from the first game is such weak reasoning.

bulba's tunnels ARE ridiculous.

The more you discredit me, the more I know I'm right on the money.

Actually, most of this post makes little to no sense. Start at the beginning and walk through it step by step.

[Bert]

Since this makes absolutely no sense, please elaborate.

Yes it does! You're not confirmed 1-shot vig! And if you're scum and not a 1-shot Vig/SK, then there's 99% an SK out there! That's really exciting!

Actually, most of this post makes little to no sense. Start at the beginning and walk through it step by step.

I have a proposal without a ring.

Hi guys let's all hold hands and walk through this game!



Let this become the cheerleading thread!

[Bert]

I'm not discrediting his play in general, just his play in this particular game. because it's bad

Bad? Because he's scumreading you for several reasons, he's bad? There is no irrefutable evidence on your side.

I'm still having problems accepting all claimed roles as town though.

Anatole, you're being really accepting of all claimed roles as town and are in the minority on that.

Earlier, you said everyone disagrees with Bulba:

and yes, that is weak reasoning and everyone in the game disagrees with you

That's not true, and in fact it's the opposite.

Do you think he's going to shelve his scumread on you based on you telling him to stop discrediting you?

[Anatole Kuragin]

can you re-word that last sentence?

As far as the first quote - there is evidence - he has been very very sure about two players this game. One is me, and the other is inflatable pie. I know with 100% certainty that he is wrong on both counts, and you know that he was on Pie. That's not a good record.

[singersigner]

Molla being jailkept on a night two scum would still be alive does not clear him unless they assumed Pie got jailkept/roleblocked and decided to switch who performed the kill. My assumption as scum would lean towards doc protect?

[Anatole Kuragin]

The balance of the first timeshift game gave me the impression that the balance and roles could be all over the place and that I shouldn't expect them to be balanced - that is why I am accepting of power roles when they make sense. as far as I'm concerned bulba doc, me jk, 1 shot bp, tracker are all confirmed, obviously you guys are not convinced of the JK until I flip.

[PeregrineV]

Since this makes absolutely no sense, please elaborate.

Yes it does! You're not confirmed 1-shot vig! And if you're scum and not a 1-shot Vig/SK, then there's 99% an SK out there! That's really exciting!

You saying I could be scum has no meaning to me, since I'm not. But, walk me through the logic how I could be while shooting my partner.

Actually, most of this post makes little to no sense. Start at the beginning and walk through it step by step.

I have a proposal without a ring.

Hi guys let's all hold hands and walk through this game!



Let this become the cheerleading thread![/quote]
Yes!

[PeregrineV]

EBWOP:

Since this makes absolutely no sense, please elaborate.

Yes it does! You're not confirmed 1-shot vig! And if you're scum and not a 1-shot Vig/SK, then there's 99% an SK out there! That's really exciting!

You saying I could be scum has no meaning to me, since I'm not. But, walk me through the logic how I could be while shooting my partner.

Actually, most of this post makes little to no sense. Start at the beginning and walk through it step by step.

I have a proposal without a ring.

Hi guys let's all hold hands and walk through this game!



Let this become the cheerleading thread!

Yes!

[Tammy]

Will someone please answer if strong arm kills go through jail keeps?

[Tammy]

VC 1.8 (5/30/14)

PeregrineV (L-7)
Bulbazak (L-5)

VictorDeAngelo

, PeregrineV
Anatole Kuragin (L-7)
Kcdaspot (L-7)
Jeesh5 (L-7)
Dr Pants (L-7)
Bane (L-6) Ms Kazekirimara

VictorDeAngelo

(Lynch) Anatole Kuragin,

InflatablePie

,

Messiah Complex

, Kcdaspot,

Dr Pants,

Bbmolla,

Metal Sonic

Messiah Complex (L-7)
Bbmolla (L-7)

Metal Sonic (L-6) Jeesh5

Ms Kazekirimara (L-5)

Bane

, Bulbazak
InflatablePie (L-7)
No Lynch (L-7)
Not Voting (0)

We have a lynch.

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The crowd decides to lynch Victor. After killing him, he is revealed to be a:

Spoiler:

VictorDeAngelo, Vanilla Townie, was lynched Day 1.

It is now night. Night will end in 48 hours, Sunday morning at 8am EDT.[/color]

Day one vote count.

In order for Anatole to be scum the three of them decided to bunch up together the entire day for that mislynch. Not unheard of, I've done it before. And with the way that ipie tried to use voting next to mc as reasoning for why he was town, cuz he'd never vote near his partner I wouldn't put it past them. None of them wavered at all on that day one, but then neither did Bert's predecessor.

[Tammy]

VC 2.9 (6/24/14)

PeregrineV (L-7)
Bulbazak (L-7)
Anatole Kuragin (L-7)
Bert (L-7)

Studio 54 (

L-6) Ms Marangal
Dr Pants (L-7)
Tammy (L-7)
Messiah Complex (L-7)
Bbmolla (L-7)

Wake88

(Lynch)

Messiah Complex,

Dr Pants,

Bulbazak,

Studio 54, Tammy

, Bbmolla,

InflatablePie

Ms Marangal (L-7)

Wake88

, PeregrineV

InflatablePie

(L-7) Bert, Anatole Kuragin
No Lynch (L-7)
Not Voting (0)

Lynch has been reached.

Wake88 has been lynched Day 2. He was a Town Tracker.

Night 2 has begun. Deadline is Thursday night at 8pm.[/color]

Unfortunately, this doesn't tell us much as we had an ipie wagon going until wake claimed something different than his predecessor and we thought he'd been caught in a lie.

When I'm at my computer, I'll look at that wagon progression.

[Tammy]

VC 3.4 (7/7/14)

PeregrineV (L-6)
Bulbazak (L-5)

Studio 54

Anatole Kuragin (L-5) Bulbazak
Bert (L-6)
Studio 54 (L-6)
Dr Pants (L-6)
Tammy (L-6)
Bbmolla (L-6)
Ms Marangal (L-6)

InflatablePie

(Lynch) Bert, Bbmolla, Anatole Kuragin, PeregrineV,

Dr Pants,

Ms Marangal
No Lynch (L-6)
Not Voting (2)

InflatablePie

,

Tammy

We have a lynch. My apologies again for the whole disappearing without notice thing.[/color]

Day three scum lynch. I jumped off because I wanted more time but then we had a quick hammer.

[Tammy]

VC 4.8 (7/24/14 deadline)

PeregrineV (L-4) Singersigner
Bulbazak (L-5)
Anatole Kuragin (L-1)

Studio 54,

Bulbazak, Bert,

Tammy

Bert (L-4) PeregrineV
Studio 54 (L-5)
Tammy (L-5)
Bbmolla (L-5)
Singersigner (L-5)
No Lynch (L-5)
Not Voting (2) Anatole Kuragin, Bbmolla

Deadline has passed. There was no lynch today. N4 begins, deadline Saturday at 8pm EDT.
[/color]

Day four no lynch, we all know what happened.

Damn I had a thought and lost it. Maybe it will come back to me.

[Tammy]

Okay the wiki says a strong arm kill cannot be blocked by any means.

[Tammy]

I still have a town read on singers slot. I think that's the read I feel best about. I want to have faith in my molla townread, but I'm still feeling twitchy over ipies LYNCH MOLLA RAWR I BET YOU WONT!!! Thing. :/

[Bert]

Dinner's getting cold

/mobile

[BBmolla]

I'm pretty disheartened because I don't have any real scumreads

[Bert]

I think that's the read I feel best about.

Another similarity is how Llamarble had a lot of confusion N1 because something didn't make sense - and it ended up being multiball. This came to mind again after Molla's last post without any expressed scumreads. Here, all the lack of real scumreads signals something fishy is up IMHO. True story is I almost addressed you as Mina in my last post...wasn't paying enough attention on my mobile. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I'm pretty disheartened because I don't have any real scumreads

I'm surprised you said my name when mentioning my lack of content this day phase, but you've glossed over Peregrine. This day phase, by your standards he hasn't expressed a smidgen of belief about anyone being scum and did the classic "let's walk through the game, help me out" thing that lots of players do. No meandering in his posts or anything, no new perspectives.

[BBmolla]

cool

[BBmolla]

Just so we're clear I didn't give you crap for lack of content, I gave you crap for bad content

[Bert]

I gave you crap for bad content

just to be crystal clear there wasn't any content dude unless setup spec counts