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Post Post #3725 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:05 pm

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eh, not voting. Lets see if you can change my mind.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #3726 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:15 pm

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In post 3723, Squirrel Girl wrote:But Neil is more scummy?

sure? Not sure how one scum is "scumier" than the other scum but...atleast for Neil we have him defending lemi so I think that could be a possible buddy and an OS town offers more upside than a Neil town. + I don't like how you and him are pretending like I'm not confirmed NOT bo7. I'm town but from the perspective of any outsider not privvy to my role pm I think this would point to me being less likely to be scum.
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Post Post #3727 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:19 pm

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Is the him in that post directed towards me? I never gave a read on your slot.
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Post Post #3728 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:20 pm

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him is Neil but...gut read on me plox and why.
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Post Post #3729 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:30 pm

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I got up to page 23, actually. I think you're probably town.

I am compiling a small catchup post (140 pages, may not be small when I finish). Cliff notes for NC town read: argument with Tbone about your actions.
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Post Post #3730 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:18 pm

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ffer, i fucking love you
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Post Post #3731 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:33 am

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In post 3726, Nero Cain wrote:I don't like how you and him are pretending like I'm not confirmed NOT bo7. I'm town but from the perspective of any outsider not privvy to my role pm I think this would point to me being less likely to be scum.

I would think I'm as confirmed on that as you are - you still suspect me. Or is it only scummy when other people do it to you?
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Post Post #3732 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:35 am

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Can somebody sum up for me why BoP isn't dead yet? Seems like a counterwagon has formed.

This game is getting too draggy and stally, ugh.

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Post Post #3733 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:43 am

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Because no one has summed up why BoP should be dead.
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Post Post #3734 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:43 am

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I mean, I understand there was a rush there - I can't tell you why.
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Post Post #3735 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:46 am

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because BoP's claim is great.
In post 836, Lucky2u said:

Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.
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Post Post #3736 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:52 am

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In post 3733, Squirrel Girl wrote:Because no one has summed up why BoP should be dead.


Because BoP is scum.

Because BoP is Titus, and Titus is scum, ergo BoP is scum.


What was her claim anyway? Didn't see it. Probably cant negate her scum-positive game the whole time though.

Ugh, Nero Cain, this is deva ju; except Titus is scum this time.

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Post Post #3737 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:09 am

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In post 3735, shos wrote:because BoP's claim is great.


Just so we're all on the same page here, the claim was "great" in that there's every reason to believe BoP is indeed an ascetic.

This doesn't imply that he's town, and based on the ability distributions we've seen, arguably implies the opposite. Ascetic appears to be strictly negative utility if town.
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Post Post #3738 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:15 am

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Ummm.... Ascetics are always scum-roles.

:/

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Post Post #3739 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:17 am

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In post 3736, Young and Beautiful wrote:Because BoP is scum.

Because BoP is Titus, and Titus is scum, ergo BoP is scum.


Bad news for you is that I can vouch that Titus can't possibly be scum.

But, I'll even double check the role PM, in case I forgot.

......

Nope, we're town.

And I'm supposing this is only some sort of push, and that you have a legitimate reason that I'll have to go look up.

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Post Post #3740 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:19 am

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Hello, PeregrineV.

I know you.

And...

your slot is not town.

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Post Post #3741 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:26 am

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In post 3738, Young and Beautiful wrote:Ummm.... Ascetics are always scum-roles.

:/

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Not true.
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Post Post #3742 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:30 am

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In post 2608, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh oh oh!

I know who Lemniscate is now!

She is absolutely, positively town!

In post 2865, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 2863, Young and Beautiful wrote:The progression of her claims in which she casually drops things with each new post screams town to me.


I should clarify: While both town and scum can claim or fakeclaim seamlessly, Lemniscate's constant "what the fuck" reaction-eliciting claim posts are very likely town. I don't think she as scum would risk muddling her claim up like this; I doubt that as scum Lemniscate's claim would be this ill-prepared. The situation strikes me more like an actual town mason, panicking because she didn't expect herself to be run up as the biggest wagon by far at a time so close to deadline.

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Lemniscate, Jakotsu, Band of Seven Mafia Undead 2-shot Nonconsecutive Ninja
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In post 3091, Young and Beautiful wrote:Titus is 100% scum. Her hydra slip effectively ruined her whole game; as she was banking on it to hide her scum meta. No longer.

VOTE: BoP


Trust me on this one.

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So no actual reason found, but based on this + your other posts, Elf and shos are also town.
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Post Post #3743 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:31 am

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I'm not going to, but it's really tempting to vote Y&B just to remove some of the noise from the game.
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Post Post #3744 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:42 am

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No I haven't caught up yet :( page 40
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Post Post #3745 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:00 am

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I would love for someone who thinks Mist is town to make a case for that.
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Post Post #3746 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:02 am

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In post 3740, Young and Beautiful wrote:Hello, PeregrineV.

I know you.

And...

your slot is not town.

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But it is.

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Post Post #3747 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:06 am

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In post 3745, geists wrote:I would love for someone who thinks Mist is town to make a case for that.


I mean look at her ISO. nearly every post has been some form of beetlejuice. Her last post here was on Friday - over 4 days ago - and was in reaction to my vote. Since then, no comments about her except me over here in the corner grumbling.
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Post Post #3748 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:24 am

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In post 3747, geists wrote:
In post 3745, geists wrote:I would love for someone who thinks Mist is town to make a case for that.


I mean look at her ISO. nearly every post has been some form of beetlejuice. Her last post here was on Friday - over 4 days ago - and was in reaction to my vote. Since then, no comments about her except me over here in the corner grumbling.


I looked over her iso. Standouts would be Looking at abomination wagon for scum (Xofelf, shos, Beast), shakedown of shos over his claim wording, townread on Lemin, post @ Lemin (2890), human claim.

Really dislikes wagons on her. Responded to Lemin vote and your vote, but no others. And not much in the way of responses in general, except when arguing shos scumrole/scumslip.

Might consider voting her, but if she was some sort of counterwagon to Lemin yesterday, also want to look into that.
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Post Post #3749 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:33 am

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In post 3453, Birds of Prey wrote:
In post 1834, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1795, HighShroomish wrote:
In post 1791, Young and Beautiful wrote:Those are valid points.

However, could you please draw the link between your 3 points -> YnB is scum? You have yet to show this despite your well-written analysis and case.

If the conclusions of your case are: "You are X, Y, and Z, but you are not scum," then there is no need for all the tension; in fact you have just lured a pack of hungry scum for a mislynch on poor YnB. Aren't my kisses enough? :(

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The first point-
This is a tell that I have used without fail in three other games. Two of which you know of. I trust it. It works.
The second point- only solidifying under pressure, as Mhork is saying, is scummy. Once the pressure starts to alleviate you go back to fluff-posting, which, seeing as it is the third point, isn't something town players do. Having 91 posts of near nothing is bad. And this bad means scummy bad.



I concede defeat. Our play hasn't exactly been stellar, and your case is very valid and sound. I know that it leads to the wrong answer, thus there is definitely a flaw in there that results in a contradiction, but I am unable to find it using logical reasoning as you have provided.

It's like a complicated math problem; the working and methodology is seemingly correct, but for some reason you arrive at the wrong answer. It may take a good eye to spot the possible (careless) mistake, but I can't.

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I am a Demon. I can visit a player every night, and they will receive a message confirming me as Town the next day.

This explains my "uselessness" et al. We were trying to have fun, and also our plan was to coast using our ability, since it would give us a whole lot of breathing room. Unfortunately, we got run up today, and might be a potential nightkill target now. Didn't expect that.


Oh and sorry Y if I'm claiming prematurely. We're L-4 and a ton of scum is on our wagon.

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