Mini 1595: WiFom City: The Inquisition - GAME OVER - THANKS!

[Honey bee]

True, I was just inclined to treat it like a second town lynch. We'll just see what happens I guess.

VOTE: hiplop

[fontisian]

@Fontisian

There's a limit to my tolerance for players using meta to clear themselves.

Are you going to consider my previous request yet?

Citrus, though you may have seen evidence to the contrary, I'm not actually a mind reader. I have know idea what you are asking of me and I don't understand why you can't answer a very simple question. Why is hiphop town?

[ika]

FONT:

583

citrus is town font. just deal with it. i have thing game mostly solved already. i just want to see if you match with me on ideas.

[fontisian]

plus its a fucking open setup, town are just as likely to make that mistake as scum are.

like really either way its a fucking accident

You're getting irrationally angry over a clear, most likely because it hems your team in a just a little bit more.

And really, you think a scum could accidentally miscount their number of scummates? No. That was either a legitimate townslip or a deliberate fake one. I believe the former.

[fontisian]

Ika, I know Citrus is likely town. I also have no idea what he's asking from me and why he isn't trying to convince me to not lynch hiplop.

[ika]

oh btw i found honey bees role....

need to see my list of roles i have marked down

[Grib]

Hey ika, I'm the [muffled screaming]. Does it match your guess?

[Stigmata]

I got prodded via dream last night as well. (The game was kind of like this one and about half the player list was the same - specifically remember fontisian/ABR were town in it; Grib was scum (as was Blab.)

You know mist, I don't think you have a good grasp on this game yet. All I read is emotion. You're raging at ika for being anti-town (and we all have that phase, but I'm sorry, this is his town meta), you're raging at fontisian for being arrogant (which IMO is pretty null, but w/e floats your boat), your list of townreads consist of everyone that is voting fontisian right now, and your posts contain a lot of non-content snipes. Chill for a day or so if you need and then do some rereading + ISO Rubicon and ZZZX for me and let me know what you think. Thanks.

IRL is taking a toll on me and I'm having a lot of trouble getting into this game. My gut is telling me there's one scum in ZZZX/Honey bee (their interactions don't strike me as aligned but something still feels off about them to me.) I find ZZZX hard to read because he's a VI, and there's some moments I like from him in that it feels like he doesn't care very much how he's being perceived, but how he treats Rubicon+Honey bee rubs me the wrong way. His content is mostly about them (meta-clearing them with surprising certainty) despite not seeming to be reading their posts all that clearly. HB's pretty null for me; her suspicions feel a little too middle of the road/easy, but she seems reasonably aggressive/convinced with how she talks about them.

[Stigmata]

Oh, I meant to ask how anyone can feel out whether a wagon is scum-driven or not. B/c

[Stigmata]

Stigmata's 248 is strange as hell to me. MadCitrus made a (somewhat) weak case against him and he got incredibly defensive. That doesn't sit right with me.

I like to feel understood! esp. by people I've wasted Friday nights playing games w/.

[Unsight]

So I lost a decent-sized post to website errors earlier. I'll summarize.

I really wish ika wouldn't talk about knowing peoples' roles. I think that's basically helping scum figure out who's who and who's not who. I don't think it's a scum-tell, but I think it's bad for the town.

Atum: We're not lynching each other today. My read on you is based on fontisian being scum, your read on me is just wrong. As an out-of-game thing, I apologize to you for being condescending as heck in that other post. I should have chilled before hitting Submit.

Hiplop Wagon: blah blah need to reread blah blah will post thoughts after blah blah

PS: I hate hate hate

hate

walls of text.

[Mist7676]

I still don't think that this was the best move, but whatever. What's already claimed is claimed. I feel like outing a town power role before the game even starts is worse then having them post content later in the game, where they don't have a target on their back, and possibly get the chance of a Scum CC.

...

People don't fakeclaim the gravedigger. The role isn't even guaranteed to be town.

[Grib is town because he assumed there were four witches in the game when there are actually three. What part of that statement do you disagree with and why?

I seem to remember someone mentioning that a lot of the players were common Withhunt players, and assumed a two things:
a) The witches stayed constant.
b) Claiming something about the game is so easy for a scum player to pull and has only two outcomes: Coming off as town for apparently slipping, or coming off as a Village Idiot for not reading the rules. Both of which are pretty safe as it doesn't leave a target on his back.

I feel this was just his way of trying to get himself a little towncred, and don't want to watch him slide by without it being noticed.

Ok, that's nice in a general sense, but have you looked at Grib's town slip in particular?

This is an attempt to throw WIFOM in the situation. "Don't lynch me because I could be an asset to town even if I was scum. If we have caught scum, I'm going to lynch them. And if you try bussing someone now, I frankly wouldn't believe it, as you seem to be repeating it quite a bit. As if trying to set up for it, and it's really frustrating me.

The point is that I'm a self resolving problem. You don't need to lynch me because scum generally prefer to shoot me over having me around for several Days. Now, look at all of the people (except ika, the derp) voting for me right now. What do they have in common?

Can you explain exactly why you believe hiplop to be town. (Hint: The wagon being scumdriven is a bad answer when I happen to know that it isn't.)

All the people on your wagon are town! (except ika, the derp but congrats on getting bussing points!)

Also, I do believe hiplop's wagon is scum driven, so don't pull that with me. But mostly I believe that me and hiplop share the same ideas and he's given a lot of content that I can see coming from a town's perspective.

@Mist

Too many nulls. Your ika read is bad because he does that every game. But I agree with you on Rubicon. And I'm not trying to slide by without it being noticed, because. I want it to be noticed, so that you can drop your scumread of me and put it somewhere that might actually catch scum.

I don't really have any reads on them yet, and I'm not going to lie about them~ Maybe I'll reread and decide later.

Sorry, but repeating it isn't going to do it for me, if anything it's going to just reassure me that your scum, as you would just be trying to gain some town cred for something scum could do anyways.

plus its a fucking open setup, town are just as likely to make that mistake as scum are.

like really either way its a fucking accident

You're getting irrationally angry over a clear, most likely because it hems your team in a just a little bit more.

And really, you think a scum could accidentally miscount their number of scummates? No. That was either a legitimate townslip or a deliberate fake one. I believe the former.

I don't think scum miscounted, I feel like he's trying to fake being town by pretending he didn't know the number of scum.

I really don't like how font and grib are protecting each other and have each other on some pedestle of townyness that I just can't see.

[ZZZX]

So I lost a decent-sized post to website errors earlier. I'll summarize.

I really wish ika wouldn't talk about knowing peoples' roles. I think that's basically helping scum figure out who's who and who's not who. I don't think it's a scum-tell, but I think it's bad for the town.

Atum: We're not lynching each other today. My read on you is based on fontisian being scum, your read on me is just wrong. As an out-of-game thing, I apologize to you for being condescending as heck in that other post. I should have chilled before hitting Submit.

Hiplop Wagon: blah blah need to reread blah blah will post thoughts after blah blah

PS: I hate hate hate

hate

walls of text.

The hatred is shared

[fontisian]

Bzzt#

All of the people on my wagon (except ika) have never played with me before. Every player not on me (except Honeybee) knows me.

[ZZZX]

Bzzt#

All of the people on my wagon (except ika) have never played with me before. Every player not on me (except Honeybee) knows me.

I did this last time I was town Lol

UNVOTE:

[ika]

mist same question: if font is town whos next?

samne for me

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's between hiplop and fontisan.

Vote: fontisan

[Honey bee]

Bzzt#

All of the people on my wagon (except ika) have never played with me before. Every player not on me (except Honeybee) knows me.

I did this last time I was town Lol

UNVOTE:

um I don't see anything in that post that's alignment indicating. Why did you unvote..

It's between hiplop and fontisan.

Vote: fontisan

Those were your reads from earlier, what made you reconsider your reads beforehand?

@stigmata: What is your posistion on this hiplop vs. font thing?
I feel like a scum driven wagon is a wagon that has too many votes for the reasons presented. Arrogance/town leading/supporting a common strat for this setup feels pretty poor for 5-6 votes on font.

My head hurts now so I'll talk a bit more later today maybe.

[Grib]

/uses Witchy powers to raise thread from the grave/

Uh. I mean. Hi, fellow townies! Comrades of non-Witchy origins. Heh heh.

[Mist7676]

mist same question: if font is town whos next?

samne for me

I'd probably start looking at my null reads a bit more closely. I'm pretty sure scum lies between at LEAST one of you, so I'm feeling confident. I'm feeling like both of you are riding on the coattails of your past games instead of actually playing this new game. Font, you are using your experience as helping town to clear yourself as town. That's not how this works sweetie. But thanks for pulling a scum card!

/uses Witchy powers to raise thread from the grave/

Uh. I mean. Hi, fellow townies! Comrades of non-Witchy origins. Heh heh.

*gasps*

[Unsight]

Bzzt#

All of the people on my wagon (except ika) have never played with me before. Every player not on me (except Honeybee) knows me.

I don't know what the point of this is supposed to be.

People who know you know what your scum/town meta is => You use that to your advantage as scum => WIFOM

[Unsight]

In other news, I hate Day 1.

[Mist7676]

Bzzt#

All of the people on my wagon (except ika) have never played with me before. Every player not on me (except Honeybee) knows me.

I don't know what the point of this is supposed to be.

People who know you know what your scum/town meta is => You use that to your advantage as scum => WIFOM

*high fives*

[hiplop]

Stigmata's 248 is strange as hell to me. MadCitrus made a (somewhat) weak case against him and he got incredibly defensive. That doesn't sit right with me.

I like to feel understood! esp. by people I've wasted Friday nights playing games w/.

fair enough.

Stigmata's 248 is strange as hell to me. MadCitrus made a (somewhat) weak case against him and he got incredibly defensive. That doesn't sit right with me.

I like to feel understood! esp. by people I've wasted Friday nights playing games w/.

Bzzt#

All of the people on my wagon (except ika) have never played with me before. Every player not on me (except Honeybee) knows me.

I did this last time I was town Lol

UNVOTE:

you did what exactly? Defended yourself with meta is what you mean?

Stigmata's 248 is strange as hell to me. MadCitrus made a (somewhat) weak case against him and he got incredibly defensive. That doesn't sit right with me.

I like to feel understood! esp. by people I've wasted Friday nights playing games w/.

Bzzt#


@stigmata: What is your posistion on this hiplop vs. font thing?
I feel like a scum driven wagon is a wagon that has too many votes for the reasons presented. Arrogance/town leading/supporting a common strat for this setup feels pretty poor for 5-6 votes on font.

My head hurts now so I'll talk a bit more later today maybe.

Honey, I don't think arrogance nor the strategy have ANYTHING to do with font's alignment. I think hes an arrogant tool, but also scum. I've outlined FAR better reasons than what you've indicated so please look back.

[hiplop]

If it's me vs font, I can confirm myself as town. If thats the case, lets burn this guy please.