NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[Juls]

VOTE: BP

[BP]

What you gonna do, vote me? You're probably just the most dumb SK of all time.

[Wake1]

Aegor, you said there's 0% chance BP's Town.

You're also demanding people to vote him.

And you now say you're not the Cop.

Sum it up what your EXACT reasoning IS.

[BP]

Aegor, you said there's 0% chance BP's Town.

You're also demanding people to vote him.

And you now say you're not the Cop.

Sum it up what your EXACT reasoning IS.

A little less dumb.

[Wake1]

Best not to taunt the players deciding your fate, BP.

[BP]

Has anyone noticed how The Way joined the game in the middle of a pseudo cop sponsored wagon?

[Juls]

BP, who is scum? who is town?

[Aegor]

Also Juls is pretty obviously town; anyone voting her at this point is clearly scumclaiming.

TWIE is now the towniest player in the game. That is good, because I was extremely ambivalent about Scarab.

[BP]

My fate is everyone's. I don't care if I'm the gambit this town needs. I'm saying there were players to serve as gambit before, and I'm awed by the stupidity behind this wagon. Aegor should have died by now. Why is he alive, he sponsored and rejoiced with previous lynches. This should be unnecessary by now. But as I said, this town is doomed, so.

[BP]

Also Juls is pretty obviously town; anyone voting her at this point is clearly scumclaiming.

TWIE is now the towniest player in the game. That is good, because I was extremely ambivalent about Scarab.

Aka "whoever agrees with me gets a pass, as long as they push of lynches as hard as I do"

[BP]

Be back tomorrow, if I'm alive. Gots to works.

DO THE RIGHT THING.

[Aegor]

I will line up my own lynch. No joke. If BP flips town, I will 100% not accept any lynch tomorrow except my own. BP has done literally nothing town at all this entire game. He has flip-flopped on HS, me, and his own view on policy lynches. Alina suspected him, and is dead.

I am

telling

you that there is no chance whatsoever that he is town. This day will be better the shorter it is. REALLY, REALLY, trust me on this one.

If BP's town, Aegor dies.

Yes, yes. Now vote BP.

Aegor hasn't one damned good reason for saying BP is 0% Town, unless he's implying he's got a guilty on him.

Stop fishing. You are bad and should feel bad. I have presented extremely compelling reasons that BP is 0% town.

Absolutely no one living is mod-confirmed Town.

No kidding. But BP is scum. Scumscumscumscumscum.

Vote BP.

You're about to lose my vote too, Aegor, with all due respect. If he's not the cop then I can't blindly sheep him saying he's 1000% sure on BP.

You are not sheeping me blindly. I explained why BP is scum; my reasons are compelling. They do not rely on "feelings;" they do not rely on interpretation of posts. The case is factual. It is the strongest case yet presented.

VOTE BP NOW.

Aegor, you said there's 0% chance BP's Town.

You're also demanding people to vote him.

And you now say you're not the Cop.

Sum it up what your EXACT reasoning IS.

You are more than welcome to read the effing game.

VOTE BP NOW.

[Wake1]

Also Juls is pretty obviously town; anyone voting her at this point is clearly scumclaiming.

TWIE is now the towniest player in the game. That is good, because I was extremely ambivalent about Scarab.

Yeah, that's not gonna work, Scumfuck.

You were the one bullshitting with your obvious crumbs about BP needing to be lynched, yet when I point out how Goddamned obvious it was you turn around and say I'm trying to out PRs. Like what the fuck, are you serious?

If you flip Scum, Juls will become very suspect, which wouldn't surprise me if you're also white-knighting.

And why exactly is TWIE to you the towniest player here in your opinion?

[Wake1]

My vote is already on BP, Aegor.

Are you trying to make me insult you?

[Wake1]

I am

telling

you that there is no chance whatsoever that he is town.

Why.

[Aegor]

Yeah, that's not gonna work, Scumfuck.

Let us withhold alignment judgments so as not to look bad in retrospect, yes?

You were the one bullshitting with your obvious crumbs about BP needing to be lynched, yet when I point out how Goddamned obvious it was you turn around and say I'm trying to out PRs. Like what the fuck, are you serious?

I do not bullshit. Or maybe I should just claim cop and then claim guilties on people based on my own gut? What do you think, Wake? How the hell has that worked out for you?

If you flip Scum, Juls will become very suspect, which wouldn't surprise me if you're also white-knighting.

Great. BP flip first.

And why exactly is TWIE to you the towniest player here in your opinion?

Unique rationality and clear understanding of the game.

Why.

I already explained.

[Aeronaut]

This has happened before.

Hammer HS and if he flips town, I will offer myself up to the town tomorrow, my life for his, i.e. our lives are one-to-one or one-for-one.

I will line up my own lynch. No joke. If BP flips town, I will 100% not accept any lynch tomorrow except my own.

Seem familiar?

When HS was at L-1, coincidentally, Aegor said he was absolutely, 100% sure HS was scum. He even offered to be lynched the next day, and that's how sure he was. Why should any of us believe him now? It's literally the same gambit.

BP has done very little to make me suspect he's scum. The HS hypocrisy thing is a bit sketchy, but there isn't much besides that. You on the other hand have wanted a quicklynch almost every day. Every day except today of course. Today,

you suddenly want to hear from everyone before lynching.

Why the change in attitude, Aegor?

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I think that Juls, Aegor, and TWIE are scumbuddies.

Here's what really happened.

D4 Begins

Aegor initially votes for Juls, using similar reasoning to me.

The wagon grows quickly. Aegor says that he doesn't think Juls should get lynched today, despite still having a vote on her.

He unvotes. Then, suddenly, BP is his target out of nowhere.

He then scolds the rest of us for wagoning too quickly. Again, a complete contrast from D1/D2 when Aegor wanted lynch as soon as possible.

Once BP's wagon starts growing, Aegor is suddenly back to wanting the quickest lynch possible.

Aegor counterwagoned.

He started this BS BP wagon to take the wagon off of Juls. He's using his "If BP flips town you can vote me tomorrow" thing again because for some reason, it worked last time, and it brings his scum team one step closer to winning the game. Why else would he change his mind so suddenly?

I've also been watching TWIE. Juls was still pretty close to being lynched, and he defends her with this gem. And then, he sheeps Aegor.

0% Aegor?

Thats good enough for me.

Unvote
Vote: BP

The rest of his posts for the game have been something along the lines of this.

STOP.

TALKING.

VOTE.

BP.

So you could say he's pretty eager for the day to be over as well. The two of them really don't want to vote Juls, so if they're scum it's likely she is scum with them. The reason I think Aegor picked BP is because he is extremely unavailable. BP won't be around to defend himself much, as he said a few posts above. The perfect scapegoat.

I'm alright with lynching any of the three of them. We should lynch Aegor, and when he flips scum, we should lynch the other two. If we vote BP now and he flips town, tomorrow is too late to lynch Aegor. We're running out of time, and BP is not the lynch today.

VOTE: Aegor

[TheWayItEnds]

.... Oh I get it.

I thought I replaced into a game of Mafia.

What we're really playing here is "Who can say the most anti-town things in the shortest amount of time?"

This game makes waaaay more sense now.

[TheWayItEnds]

Wake wins btw.

Hes a fucking champion.

[TheWayItEnds]

What you gonna do, vote me? You're probably just the most dumb SK of all time.

Thanks for confirming this is 1 team and SK and not 2 teams before you go though.

That was nice of you.

[Mirhawk]

We are not in Lylo so tomorrow is not too late to lynch Aegor. One scum has already been killed, so in order for us to be in lylo there would have to have been six scum on one team at the beginning of the game, and the night kills don't support this theory.

That being said nothing is saving Aegor tomorrow if BP flips town, so if he was scum that would make this a 1-1 trade. Which is a bad trade to make as scum so I'm inclined to take this as a town move.

@Aegor
Your case on BP doesn't really do too much for me. His flip flopping on opinions regarding HS happens over a long span of posts.
Reading him over in ISO reveals a fairly lackluster play. Your comment about him ignoring Wake and Scarab is rather more interesting as he focused pretty heavily on them before.

How certain are you on BP? We might not be in Lylo today, but we might be tomorrow, and if he flips town there's pretty good odds we're going to lose.

@TWIE
Yeah I was going to say Wake's probably a serial killer, but I guess I was beat to it.

[Aegor]

When HS was at L-1, coincidentally, Aegor said he was absolutely, 100% sure HS was scum. He even offered to be lynched the next day, and that's how sure he was. Why should any of us believe him now? It's literally the same gambit.

This is not a gambit. BP is actually scum. 100% scum. There is no way he is not flipping scum.

BP has done very little to make me suspect he's scum. The HS hypocrisy thing is a bit sketchy, but there isn't much besides that.

That is far more substantial than anything else anyone has done.

You on the other hand have wanted a quicklynch almost every day. Every day except today of course.

Lies. I did not want a quicklynch Day 1. I did not want a quicklynch Day 2 -- HS was the clear wagon and the game was stalling; I was not pushing for a premature end. I did not want a quicklynch Day 3; SKOT was lynched in my absence without even being able to respond to the question that I asked him, a question that I surely would not have asked had I wanted a quicklynch.

And the really sad part is that you cannot even end your bout of lunacy with an accurate statement. I absolutely want a quicklynch today. On BP. Who is scum. He is getting lynched regardless.

you suddenly want to hear from everyone before lynching.

Why the change in attitude, Aegor?

I wanted to hear from BP before lynching him. Everyone else is irrelevant to me; they were only included in any relevant statement in order to couch BP and prevent any tip-off. That was shot to hell when this moronic town put Juls at L-2 or whatever within, what 24 hours and a page and a half of the beginning of the day?

I think that Juls, Aegor, and TWIE are scumbuddies.

The only competent, obvtown people are scumbuddies? Awesome analysis right there.

Aegor initially votes for Juls, using similar reasoning to me.

The wagon grows quickly. Aegor says that he doesn't think Juls should get lynched today, despite still having a vote on her.

He unvotes. Then, suddenly, BP is his target out of nowhere.

Except BP was my prime target yesterday as well. So read the game, you boob.

He then scolds the rest of us for wagoning too quickly. Again, a complete contrast from D1/D2 when Aegor wanted lynch as soon as possible.

Except I did not want to lynch ASAP, so you are vomiting out noxious bullshit.

Once BP's wagon starts growing, Aegor is suddenly back to wanting the quickest lynch possible.

Because I know BP is scum. Next.

Aegor counterwagoned.

He started this BS BP wagon to take the wagon off of Juls. He's using his "If BP flips town you can vote me tomorrow" thing again because for some reason, it worked last time, and it brings his scum team one step closer to winning the game. Why else would he change his mind so suddenly?

I am happy to 1-1 BP. I was happy to 1-1 HS; it is really not my problem that you did not take me up on it. And it was to the town's great benefit that you (and the others) did not. Pursue my lynch tomorrow, or consider yourself outed as scum once BP flips scum.

I've also been watching TWIE. Juls was still pretty close to being lynched, and he defends her with this gem. And then, he sheeps Aegor.

TWIE sheeped me because he is not a fucking idiot and can read the subtext.

So you could say he's pretty eager for the day to be over as well.

Again, he is not an idiot.

The two of them really don't want to vote Juls, so if they're scum it's likely she is scum with them. The reason I think Aegor picked BP is because he is extremely unavailable. BP won't be around to defend himself much, as he said a few posts above. The perfect scapegoat

For what? Scapegoat for what?

I'm alright with lynching any of the three of them. We should lynch Aegor, and when he flips scum, we should lynch the other two. If we vote BP now and he flips town, tomorrow is too late to lynch Aegor. We're running out of time, and BP is not the lynch today.

BP is the only lynch for today. You can delay the inevitable, but it will be upon you. And you are standing on the wrong side of the line in the sand right now. I suggest you cross over before you doom yourself.

That being said nothing is saving Aegor tomorrow if BP flips town, so if he was scum that would make this a 1-1 trade. Which is a bad trade to make as scum so I'm inclined to take this as a town move.

Yes.

@Aegor
Your case on BP doesn't really do too much for me. His flip flopping on opinions regarding HS happens over a long span of posts.
Reading him over in ISO reveals a fairly lackluster play. Your comment about him ignoring Wake and Scarab is rather more interesting as he focused pretty heavily on them before.

How certain are you on BP?

Mod-confirmed scum levels of certainty. Vote BP.

We might not be in Lylo today, but we might be tomorrow, and if he flips town there's pretty good odds we're going to lose.

This is not a gambit. One of {BP, Aegor} is scum.

Yeah I was going to say Wake's probably a serial killer, but I guess I was beat to it.

Totally called this last game day, I think.

[Juls]

Scum, you seriously can't take much pride in this victory. If the scum is amongst the VIs then well done. You derped your way into victory.

[Aegor]

Let me just be absolutely clear:

BP is getting lynched today

. This town has enough non-idiot members to make this outcome inexorable. So you can be pro-town and do it now, or be anti-town and do it later. I suppose fighting against the lynch could more readily expose his scumbuddies, but my guess is that some have seen the writing on the wall and are already voting him.

The lynch is happening. We can do it now or later, but the day is already sufficiently firmly on a particular course that there will be little benefit to prolonging it. Expect nothing from BP; he knows he is a dead man walking.

So just vote BP.

[shaddowez]

Aegor

- You seemed as confident about the HS lynch as you do about the BP lynch. Were you pushing the HS wagon as more of a PL, or do you have more compelling evidence to ensure that you are correct about this one?