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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:34 pm

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In post 2274, shaddowez wrote:
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HS was a combination of PL/scummy. I was not as confident about HS as I am about BP. I have much more reason to believe that BP is scum.
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:34 pm

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In post 2218, Wake1 wrote:
There could ALSO be two Cops.

One even, one Odd. Same with Doctors. Same with Tracker. Probably the same with Vigs.


Just because you have a fetish for splitting power roles into even-odd modifiers doesn't mean anyone else does, Wake.

In post 2219, Wake1 wrote:Cabd was the Town Even-Night Vigilante, Farside22 the Town Odd-Night Doctor, and Sharpest-knife-on-tree was the Town Even-Night Tracker.

Sorry, but now I really suspect Aegor and Juls. If BP flips Town, Aegor needs to die for sure. If he's Scum, sans an elaborate bussing attempt I would trust him a little more.I don't like how Juls' mentioned that the "Cop" should come out and take out Aegor one-for-one. She said "Cop," not Even or Odd Night Cop, too.


....Even if it's probably true. Well damn.

In post 2244, Wake1 wrote:If BP's town, Aegor dies.

Aegor hasn't one damned good reason for saying BP is 0% Town, unless he's implying he's got a guilty on him.

Absolutely no one living is mod-confirmed Town.


TheWayItEnds is also extremely suspect if BP flips town for extreme sheeping. The fact that it's Scarab's slot isn't doing him/her any favors.


In post 2261, Aegor wrote:I will line up my own lynch. No joke. If BP flips town, I will 100% not accept any lynch tomorrow except my own. BP has done literally nothing town at all this entire game. He has flip-flopped on HS, me, and his own view on policy lynches. Alina suspected him, and is dead.

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In post 2244, Wake1 wrote:If BP's town, Aegor dies.

Yes, yes. Now vote BP.

Aegor hasn't one damned good reason for saying BP is 0% Town, unless he's implying he's got a guilty on him.

Stop fishing. You are bad and should feel bad. I have presented extremely compelling reasons that BP is 0% town.

Absolutely no one living is mod-confirmed Town.

No kidding. But BP is scum. Scumscumscumscumscum.

Vote BP.

In post 2248, TheAdrienC wrote:You're about to lose my vote too, Aegor, with all due respect. If he's not the cop then I can't blindly sheep him saying he's 1000% sure on BP.

You are not sheeping me blindly. I explained why BP is scum; my reasons are compelling. They do not rely on "feelings;" they do not rely on interpretation of posts. The case is factual. It is the strongest case yet presented.

VOTE BP NOW.

In post 2252, Wake1 wrote:Aegor, you said there's 0% chance BP's Town.

You're also demanding people to vote him.

And you now say you're not the Cop.

Sum it up what your EXACT reasoning IS.

You are more than welcome to read the effing game.

VOTE BP NOW.


What the fuck is this even? Claimed non-cop but heavily implying guilty? I think it's more likely you're scum at this point.


VOTE: Aegor

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In post 2257, Aegor wrote:Also Juls is pretty obviously town; anyone voting her at this point is clearly scumclaiming.

TWIE is now the towniest player in the game. That is good, because I was extremely ambivalent about Scarab.


Yeah, that's not gonna work, Scumfuck.

You were the one bullshitting with your obvious crumbs about BP needing to be lynched, yet when I point out how Goddamned obvious it was you turn around and say I'm trying to out PRs. Like what the fuck, are you serious?

If you flip Scum, Juls will become very suspect, which wouldn't surprise me if you're also white-knighting.

And why exactly is TWIE to you the towniest player here in your opinion?


I find it more likely that he's spreading false associations to confuse town rather than actually talking about his scumbuddy here.

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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:40 pm

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omg. Do not make me do this. Also, scumbuddy identified.
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:43 pm

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Alright I'll fly with this

Vote: BP


Aegor is heavily implying he is certain that BP is scum, and instead of lynching BP some of you would rather lynch Aegor when it's abundantly clear that if BP flips town Aegor is getting lynched tomorrow anyways.
You do realize how stupid that is right?
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:44 pm

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I believe that puts BP at L-1
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:49 pm

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I figure some combination of Aeronaut, Adrien, and Burning_Town are scum. If the scum faction is big enough probably all of them.
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:08 pm

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In post 2278, Mirhawk wrote:Alright I'll fly with this

Vote: BP


Aegor is heavily implying he is certain that BP is scum, and instead of lynching BP some of you would rather lynch Aegor when it's abundantly clear that if BP flips town Aegor is getting lynched tomorrow anyways.
You do realize how stupid that is right?


I understand what you're saying as far as him being certain. If this was the first time he was certain, I'd probably take the bait. But what would be his motivation for the certainty on HS if he wasn't completely certain? Why do that?
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:16 pm

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That day was ready to end. Sorry for not wanting to waste time.

My conviction is categorically different here. We can wait for BP to fakeclaim, but we need not bother; it will not change anything.
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:25 pm

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I don't quite view the two situations as equal.

First there was never any real threat that anyone was going to take him up on the 1-1 exchange for HS. That is not the case on this.

He implied additional information this time, which he did not the time before.

Also his vote on HS was mostly motivated by HS's antitown play and his lurking rather then any actual case made on him for being scum.

The two situations are similar, but not the same.

In any case the only actual danger that we face in this situation is if BOTH Aegor and BP are town, and there seems to be few sentiments around the town that this is possible.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:26 pm

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You're dead if BP flips Town, Aegor.
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:31 pm

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Yayayayaya. Just hammer him, someone.
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:31 pm

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Hey wake do us a favor and kill scum tonight.
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:32 pm

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I may be buying into a cheap infomercial here, but for right now I'm going to bite anyway. I think I see where Aegor is coming from right now, though I could be wrong. If I am, nothing will stop me from voting Aegor tomorrow.
In post 2281, Aeronaut wrote:I understand what you're saying as far as him being certain. If this was the first time he was certain, I'd probably take the bait. But what would be his motivation for the certainty on HS if he wasn't completely certain? Why do that?

In post 2275, Aegor wrote:
In post 2274, shaddowez wrote:
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- You seemed as confident about the HS lynch as you do about the BP lynch. Were you pushing the HS wagon as more of a PL, or do you have more compelling evidence to ensure that you are correct about this one?

HS was a combination of PL/scummy. I was not as confident about HS as I am about BP. I have much more reason to believe that BP is scum.

To be fair, unless there's a PR that's gotten a positive result, we all vote based on a level of certainty of our own beliefs. Conviction in our own votes is what drives other people to take deeper looks at suspects. Considering Aegor's response to my similar question, at this point in time I'm willing to believe that's the level of certainty he was at with HS.

In post 2278, Mirhawk wrote:Aegor is heavily implying he is certain that BP is scum, and instead of lynching BP some of you would rather lynch Aegor when it's abundantly clear that if BP flips town Aegor is getting lynched tomorrow anyways.

This is pretty much the only reason I'm actually willing to do this right now.

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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:37 pm

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In post 2286, Mirhawk wrote:Hey wake do us a favor and kill scum tonight.


:neutral:

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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:38 pm

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Yes I know.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:40 pm

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In post 2289, Mirhawk wrote:Yes I know.

This town sucks ass at subtext. I got you.
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:40 pm

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In post 2289, Mirhawk wrote:Yes I know.


So what are you implying?
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:44 pm

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I've called you a serial killer at least three times today wake.

What do you think I'm implying.
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:24 pm

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In post 2280, Mirhawk wrote:I figure some combination of Aeronaut, Adrien, and Burning_Town are scum. If the scum faction is big enough probably all of them.



Why are you voting BP then?
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:29 pm

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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:32 pm

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Aegor, if BP flips scum, who is scum? Also, if he flips town, who is scum?
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:37 pm

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In post 2293, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2280, Mirhawk wrote:I figure some combination of Aeronaut, Adrien, and Burning_Town are scum. If the scum faction is big enough probably all of them.

Why are you voting BP then?

Good question, though.
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:42 pm

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In post 2295, TheAdrienC wrote:Aegor, if BP flips scum, who is scum? Also, if he flips town, who is scum?

When BP flips scum, I will look at Burning_Town, Aero. Then Adrien, Wake.

I would say at most one scum is out of that group.
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:43 pm

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Wakes not scum just bath shit crazy.
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:44 pm

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Bat..but he's so crazy it may even sound better the autocorrected way.
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