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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:15 pm

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He decided to board the wagon when the opposing wagon began to lose steam, it is opportunistic as it gives the chance to hammer me.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:16 pm

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He thinks you're scum anyways. And he can still hammer either of you.

So...¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:20 pm

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I wouldn't qualify the L-1 wagon on Xay as "losing steam".
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:21 pm

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Pretty sure it's L-2. But that just makes it equivalent to the Oka wagon before the Vett vote.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:21 pm

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Oh, Xay unvoted. Heh. Missed that.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:22 pm

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In post 475, OkaPoka wrote:He decided to board the wagon when the opposing wagon began to lose steam, it is opportunistic as it gives the chance to hammer me.

This..... is not what being opportunistic means.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:24 pm

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I'm assuming ETL only unvoted because L-1 and therefore the wagon should still be considered L-1.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:24 pm

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Well, the Oka wagon isn't even in his hammer range.

So I don't see how he's being opportunistic and looking for the hammer here.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:25 pm

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In other news, Vett's stated intention to hammer Oka even if the majority doesn't want to lynch Oka is incredibly antitown.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:27 pm

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The majority do want to lynch Oka, though. We just have our votes split between Oka and Xay.

Unless you just have an issue with him claiming intent to hammer altogether.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:29 pm

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If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:30 pm

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In post 471, vettrock wrote:
I still consider Maestro the scummiest, but no one else seems to agree with me. OkaPoka is my next pick, therefore I moved my vote to him. I didn't move my second vote to hammer, to give the rest of the town time to discuss. I would prefer to never have to use the second vote, as hopefully we can agree with a majority to who we want to lynch. I'm not saying I won't use it, but I am saying I would prefer not to.

Translation: I am going to hammer Oka if you try to lynch Xay instead.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:32 pm

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In post 485, Majiffy wrote:If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.

This is the kindof thing that would make me wary of a doublevoter of
ANY ALIGNMENT
. The fact that he seems to wield his PR like a Govern is both antiTown and
EXTREMELY
stupid since his reads on D1 are
SELF-ACKNOWLEDGED
as being significantly
LESS
than reliable.

Do any of you yet see why I was pissed off at this cocky shit?
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:39 pm

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In post 485, Majiffy wrote:If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.

Assuming current site meta means town coalesce and lynch people before page 120.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:39 pm

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In post 487, Maestro wrote:
In post 485, Majiffy wrote:If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.

This is the kindof thing that would make me wary of a doublevoter of
ANY ALIGNMENT
. The fact that he seems to wield his PR like a Govern is both antiTown and
EXTREMELY
stupid since his reads on D1 are
SELF-ACKNOWLEDGED
as being significantly
LESS
than reliable.

Do any of you yet see why I was pissed off at this cocky shit?

I'm confused. Weren't you mad earlier
because
Vett wasn't making use of his doublevoting powers?
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:41 pm

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No, he was mad earlier because Vett is a complete moron.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:49 pm

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In post 489, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 487, Maestro wrote:
In post 485, Majiffy wrote:If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.

This is the kindof thing that would make me wary of a doublevoter of
ANY ALIGNMENT
. The fact that he seems to wield his PR like a Govern is both antiTown and
EXTREMELY
stupid since his reads on D1 are
SELF-ACKNOWLEDGED
as being significantly
LESS
than reliable.

Do any of you yet see why I was pissed off at this cocky shit?

I'm confused. Weren't you mad earlier
because
Vett wasn't making use of his doublevoting powers?

Brian, start reading my posts.
Or ask before you make yourself look like an idiot.

Just a suggestion. :good:
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:51 pm

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In post 491, Maestro wrote:
In post 489, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 487, Maestro wrote:
In post 485, Majiffy wrote:If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.

This is the kindof thing that would make me wary of a doublevoter of
ANY ALIGNMENT
. The fact that he seems to wield his PR like a Govern is both antiTown and
EXTREMELY
stupid since his reads on D1 are
SELF-ACKNOWLEDGED
as being significantly
LESS
than reliable.

Do any of you yet see why I was pissed off at this cocky shit?

I'm confused. Weren't you mad earlier
because
Vett wasn't making use of his doublevoting powers?

Brian, start reading my posts.
Or ask before you make yourself look like an idiot.

Just a suggestion. :good:

I know there's more to it than that.

But you've been working under the assumption that he hasn't been trying to pressure people he thinks could be scum. Sure he's OMGUSy, but he's already stated scumreads on you, Oka, and Xay, in that order. So instead of just raging all over the place pretending he isn't doing anything, how about you try reading his posts, yeah?
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:52 pm

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In post 471, vettrock wrote:
I'll hold back the second hammer vote for now, to let everyone speak if they have more to say.


So what your saying is Maestro is the scummiest, but you vote me.[/quote]

I still consider Maestro the scummiest, but no one else seems to agree with me. OkaPoka is my next pick, therefore I moved my vote to him.
I didn't move my second vote to hammer, to give the rest of the town time to discuss. I would prefer to never have to use the second vote, as hopefully we can agree with a majority to who we want to lynch. I'm not saying I won't use it, but I am saying I would prefer not to.
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In post 483, Majiffy wrote:In other news, Vett's stated intention to hammer Oka even if the majority doesn't want to lynch Oka is incredibly antitown.

See the bolded part. I said I would prefer to not use the second vote, as I would rather the town have a majority. I did not say I intend to hammer. I'm saying I'll use my second vote if it comes to that at some point, but for now I am going to stick with the single vote and let someone else declare intent to hammer. I would prefer this as I don't completely trust my Day 1 reads, and with another voter, it provides an additional data point for vote analysis on D2 after the flip.

Majiffy wrote:No, he was mad earlier because Vett is a complete moron.

So no where did I claim to be the best mafia player other than my "undefeated" steak (which is now broken...mollie). And yes, I wouldn't really call it much of a streak, and had a lot more to do with luck than actual skill. I wouldn't classifiy my play as "complete moron" however.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:57 pm

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In the interest of fairness and for the reasons I stated above.
Cabd: social media is unvoting for the rest of Day 1.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:57 pm

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You can "say" whatever you want but you're still using the "if it comes down to it!" clause which is holding a gun to town's head. Bolded doesn't change a damn thing.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:07 pm

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In post 495, Majiffy wrote:You can "say" whatever you want but you're still using the "if it comes down to it!" clause which is holding a gun to town's head. Bolded doesn't change a damn thing.

I will agree not to use it for the rest of Day 1. If I use my social media vote again on D1, you can go ahead and lynch me the next day under the lynch all liars policy. I reserve the right to use the social media on D2 forward. I will still try not to use the second vote, but If I say I will never use it, I may as well not have it.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:08 pm

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I am not sure that vetty could be more town even if he tried.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:16 pm

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Vett, if you are honestly town you should use all you pr powers
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:18 pm

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In post 497, pirate mollie wrote:I am not sure that vetty could be more town even if he tried.

We'll probably end up having a falling out.
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