MICRO 373 — SPACE INVADERS MAFIA — GAME OVER

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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:08 pm

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VOTECOUNT 1.01


[ BBmolla
0
]

[ beastcharizard
0
]

[ Clusk92
0
]

[ Flames682
0
]

[ jmo16mla
0
]

[ notscience
0
]

[ RedCoyote
1
]
notscience
[
L-4
]

[ Regfan
0
]

[ ZZZX
0
]


[ Not Voting
8
]
BBmolla, beastcharizard, Clusk92, Flames682, jmo16mla, RedCoyote, Regfan, ZZZX

[ Deadline ]
(expired on 2014-08-12 18:45:00)

With
9 alive
, it takes
5 votes to lynch
.

The
Laser Cannon
has
not
fired yet.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:43 pm

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We actually need to minimise the strategy talk at the moment, right now there's too many variables to take into account when creating a plan (ie. Alignment of the lynched player, alignment of the shot player, how many obvtown players we have), we'll much better be able to assess these later in the day and then create a strategy that best suits the situation. Us focusing too much on strategy talk here will allow scum to pop into the thread in a way that's p easy to fake as scum since strategy talk is something that's most likely going to be non-alignment relevant (Lets be honest, all of us were thinking of how to break or play this game pre-game before roles were even handed out). The only thing we need to agree on is that quick-hammers and quick lynches are a no-no this game.

In post 11, RedCoyote wrote:Also, in regards to my shot, I'm going to take everything said into consideration, but ultimately the shot will be at my discretion.
Just putting it out there that if someone suggests "voting" for how I use my shot, I am going to be reluctant to accept that.
I will gladly take it into account when making a decision, but in all likelihood I'm not going to be giving this power up the the whim of the majority.

Understand where you're coming from here but I want
everyone only to vote for who to vig
, regular votes are useless at this point because a lynch before a shot occurs means that the shot is lost so no lynch is plausible (or good) until the shots gone of, that nullifies the regular threat of "you're 2 away from a lynch".

Speaking of which not seeing your town read on NS at all, actually leaning the opposite way with him at the moment:

Vote to vig: NS
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:56 pm

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In post 17, BBmolla wrote:Do we get two lynches essentially or is there only laser cannon and then night time?

In post 8188, Marquis wrote:
Micro 373 Setup Information
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    dayvig resets the votecount
(from the Micro Game Queue)

I agree with the plan of having 2 people protecting laser cannon 2 more people protecting them and so on, but the problem is that in that strategy there are 9 people alive for N1. If RC uses his dayvig ability and we lynch someone then there will be 7 alive instead of 9 like your strategy implies.


In post 26, Regfan wrote:
Speaking of which not seeing your town read on NS at all, actually leaning the opposite way with him at the moment:

Vote to vig: NS


The only reason I see NS as a maybe scum is because of this post:

In post 12, notscience wrote:If I had it someone would already be dead


Because no one besides him and RC had chatted and he would kill someone randomly which is what scum do when they don't know who to nightkill (not sure on this one cause I've never gotten a scum role ever, so don't get all over my face on this).

Other than that idk who is scum cause everyone is just talking strategy.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:57 pm

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Then we adjust, should work basically the same.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:58 pm

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Actually with that in mind, it is probably most effective to doc train completely
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:00 pm

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Also bear with me if I seem newbish, this is my 3rd game on the site and I'm still not used to the paragraphs of stuff that people post sometimes or all the terms that people use. What is doc train?
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:00 pm

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9 - 7 - 6 - 4

Yeah I take it back we're doing a doc train, so no percentages, just straight up protection
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:04 pm

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Molla, strategy talk seriously needs to stop, after the day shots gone off and there's more reads in the game sure we can discuss it but right now it makes it far too easy for scum to coast through a few days on strategy talk and with 7 day phases not something we can afford.

Lets try it a different way, say you had the gun right now and had to shoot straight away based on the posts in the thread who dies and why?

In post 27, Flames682 wrote:The only reason I see NS as a maybe scum is because of this post

Eh, that's not the post that makes me lean scum on him, don't actually think that one is alignment relevant, it's more the phrasing of and v .
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:10 pm

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In post 32, Regfan wrote:Lets try it a different way, say you had the gun right now and had to shoot straight away based on the posts in the thread who dies and why?


No one, not everyone has posted. beastcharizard, Clusk92, and ZZZX still have yet to post. I understand that you said shoot straight away but why the rush when 1/3 of people haven't even made a post?

In post 32, Regfan wrote:Eh, that's not the post that makes me lean scum on him, don't actually think that one is alignment relevant, it's more the phrasing of and v .


I would say that's just randomness at the start of a Mafia game but that's just my perspective.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:15 pm

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In post 33, Flames682 wrote:No one, not everyone has posted. beastcharizard, Clusk92, and ZZZX still have yet to post. I understand that you said shoot straight away but why the rush when 1/3 of people haven't even made a post?

Question was directed at Molla for one and for two it's p much "Do you find anyones posts even remotely scummy, if so who and why"?

In post 32, Regfan wrote:I would say that's just randomness at the start of a Mafia game but that's just my perspective.

I don't think either of the posts I linked are "randomness"..?
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:19 pm

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Probably Flames

Maybe you Regfan because you're trying to stifle me

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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:26 pm

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In post 34, Regfan wrote:
In post 32, Regfan wrote:I would say that's just randomness at the start of a Mafia game but that's just my perspective.

I don't think either of the posts I linked are "randomness"..?


Post 22 was pretty random if you ask me, but those are just my thoughts. Anyway I'm off to bed so I won't be posting till morning (which is prolly when this game explodes because all my games seem to fill with posts when I'm gone -_-).
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:45 pm

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In post 26, Regfan wrote:
Vote to vig: NS


In the future, please use a wording less similar to actual votes.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:11 pm

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Hey, genius

read the OP

he specifically says that it's modified from the setup that most of us know

So when I looked at the setup I was like, huh what

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I'd shoot first because it's what I do in skype mafia and it works there
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:13 pm

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The problem with picking two people to protect the Laser Cannon is that it only takes one of them being scum for it to be game over if i'm not mistaken?

If one is scum there's only one real doctor protecting him and they can use their two night kills to wipe him and the Cannon out.

Also, RedCoyote is a pretty solid townread atm
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:20 pm

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I have a game winin' tactic for bunkers dis game

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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:23 pm

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In post 39, Clusk92 wrote:The problem with picking two people to protect the Laser Cannon is that it only takes one of them being scum for it to be game over if i'm not mistaken?

If one is scum there's only one real doctor protecting him and they can use their two night kills to wipe him and the Cannon out.

Also, RedCoyote is a pretty solid townread atm

No.

and wait

FUCK

LOL

let me boold this


Also, RedCoyote is a pretty solid townread atm


No fucking way he is a scum read. I scum read our IC :<
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:24 pm

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In post 39, Clusk92 wrote:The problem with picking two people to protect the Laser Cannon is that it only takes one of them being scum for it to be game over if i'm not mistaken?

If one is scum there's only one real doctor protecting him and they can use their two night kills to wipe him and the Cannon out.

Also, RedCoyote is a pretty solid townread atm


Ignore this, obviously the real doctor could be protected by someone etc.

I suck at strategy, gonna leave it up to you guys and go with whatever
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:24 pm

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Also I am experianced in this setup as I used to do it alot before.

And

I love you RedCoyote for making this nice welcome message with me in it :P

Can I take your bases now?
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:25 pm

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Just making sure: @Mod If a bunker protected the Lazor cannon and aliens targeted both the lazor and the bunker protecting it the lazor cannon doesnt die right?
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:25 pm

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Clusk, kills don't stack (It's already been mentioned inside this thread...) meaning the only way 2 people being on RC backfires is if both are mafia. Also your "solid town read" is the innocent child, you're kidding, right?

In post 38, notscience wrote:Hey, genius read the OP he specifically says that it's modified from the setup that most of us know So when I looked at the setup I was like, huh what

It's the fact that you quoted from the OP 3 lines above where it states that bunkers cannot self-protect to make a point to RC but apparently still didn't notice that's how this game was being played, it was also mentioned in the queue. The whole thing especially the phrasing of #8 looks contrived.

PEdit: Christ you post quick.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:27 pm

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Yes I am kidding
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:34 pm

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So the plan is basically 3 people doc the cannon (chosen bu the cannon) and 2 protect randomly and 2 save thier protects

we switch the 2 who doc'd randomly with the 2 that saved thier protects and we keep doing this.

game is unlikely to go as far as runing out of protects
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:35 pm

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BBmolla and flames are town

everyone else is still a wildcard for me.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:40 pm

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I'm serious, quit the strategy posts until the shots fired.

In post 48, ZZZX wrote:BBmolla and flames are town

I've got a town read on BBMolla (Albeit incredibly weak) but not seeing the one on Flames, walk me through it?

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