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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:57 pm

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With 9 alive it will take 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

Xayzeck (3): Brian Skies, Not_Mafia, Majiffy (L-2)
OkaPoka (2): Maestro, vettrock (L-3)
Not_Mafia (1): Xayzeck

Not voting (3): OkaPoka, EspeciallyTheLies Pirate Mollie

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:58 am

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In post 434, Not_Mafia wrote:Well the main things are him buying in to Vett's reads and the whole SK thing. I can easily see him telegraphing "I like Vett/Vett's attitude" and "I don't like Maestro/Maestro's attitude" to Vett is town and I can trust him and Maestro is scum/bad and I can't trust him. And by SK I think he means any generic third party but is just being clumsy about it. It seems like a glorified playstyle issue to me like the early reads on Vett were.

You however I just find completely forced and trying to fit in with the ETL/Maestro/Majiffy/mollie block, and if at least 3 of those are town which I'm pretty sure is true, it's exactly the kind of potenital townbloc I'd be wanting to either break up or worm my way in to. Nor do I see where your ETL read has come from or how you could characterise his read on you as coming from no where so it just looks like OMGUS.

Am I? I don't think I interacted at all with mollie/Majiffy/M significantly until recently? Majiffy only mildly, mollie almost not at all, M probably the most out of the three, but I agree that I've interacted with ETL the most, probably because this is the first game I've had with her, and I know her from sitechat.

How am I forcing myself to fit in with that block of players? Calling ETL obvtown? Because I hope it's clear that that wasn't serious. She was an early townread, though, but not obvtown, and I think I've said this already.

What did I do to try and fit in with mollie? Or Majiffy? Or M?

Also, I understood nothing from your first paragraph, I would appreciate rephrasing, because it's a little messy.
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:08 am

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In post 505, Maestro wrote:WTF DOES THAT MEAN

it means you pissed cabd off with your pagetops

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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:04 am

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YES I AM CATCHED UP

except for that vett case from brian

i am soooo not reading that

NM still looks good with his recent posts tho, like after he produces like no content. The only content in 434 is just replying to me, and that's content I had to squeeze out.

Is asked without any follow up
Is just fluff stuff not important
Is putting Oka in bad light. Also not scumhunting in any of these.

Let's get more votes here yeah yeah?
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:09 am

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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:12 am

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In post 548, Brian Skies wrote:I also don't like being called obtuse and illiterate.

This is not a reason to scumread anyone nor a reason to get into a shitfest in-thread.

Maestro is a sassy sassy young man. <3
He is easily wound up. It is not really alignment indicative, and neither are his potshots at anyone.

That doesn't mean he's town and it doesn't mean he's scum. It's null.

I want to know why you spent so much time and effort refuting his case against
Vettrock
when it is pretty widely accepted at this point that he is not today's lynch? It really looks to me like Maestro was asked for an explanation, gave his thoughts about Vettrock, and then you come out of nowhere with a longer-than-mastin-post rebuttal when it didn't concern you at all, and you do not seem to be scumreading Maestro for it.

This is my problem. I don't understand what motivated you to do such a thing, and I cannot see how it would fit with a town POV.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:58 am

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In post 555, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 548, Brian Skies wrote:I also don't like being called obtuse and illiterate.

This is not a reason to scumread anyone nor a reason to get into a shitfest in-thread.

Maestro is a sassy sassy young man. <3
He is easily wound up. It is not really alignment indicative, and neither are his potshots at anyone.

That doesn't mean he's town and it doesn't mean he's scum. It's null.

I want to know why you spent so much time and effort refuting his case against
Vettrock
when it is pretty widely accepted at this point that he is not today's lynch? It really looks to me like Maestro was asked for an explanation, gave his thoughts about Vettrock, and then you come out of nowhere with a longer-than-mastin-post rebuttal when it didn't concern you at all, and you do not seem to be scumreading Maestro for it.

This is my problem. I don't understand what motivated you to do such a thing, and I cannot see how it would fit with a town POV.


While I understand from a game perspective that it may not be the immediate concern from a town POV, but I can understand from a personal perspective. If someone were to tell me I was obtuse and illiterate, I would feel the need to refute their points providing my own evidence/argument as to why they were wrong. I'm not saying I am always correct, and if someone can point out where I'm wrong I will admit it. However, if I'm not wrong, I have a hard time letting go. People who continue to hold on to something long after it has been disproven bother me.

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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:14 am

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I wasn't asking you to explain, Vettrock. I was asking Brian. Why are you now defending his chainsaw? Idgi.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:58 am

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maaaajjify
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:59 am

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VOTE: not mafia
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:06 am

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So are you going to follow Xay's train of thought?
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:08 am

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In post 559, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: not mafia

I'm not liking you at all.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:20 am

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In post 561, Majiffy wrote:
In post 559, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: not mafia

I'm not liking you at all.


:(

if not mafia is town he will make it obvious. like pretty soonish

if you are town can you make it pretty obvious as well so that I will have a reason to stay at your side all night
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:30 am

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And here I was thinking I already was a pretty good reason to stay at my side all night!

NM looks pretty damn town to me. Idk what you're missing.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:34 am

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In post 437, Not_Mafia wrote:I can't follow the flowchart here, what's the emergency procedure?

And why do you not have more concrete reads yet?


is it because of this post and the whole flowchart thing?
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:37 am

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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:42 am

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UNVOTE:

then why do you have him as town
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:58 am

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In post 59, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 56, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Right now, vettrock is scumming up the thread with every post and I am wondering why no one else is talking about it.


Looking at his other games it looks like a playstyle issue to me

In post 123, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 122, Maestro wrote:
In post 118, Not_Mafia wrote:Eh, not quite. And my vote on Maestro wasn't RVS so I'm fine with my vote right now

not like I care, but when were you gonna mention that?


I thought it was pretty self-evident from my vote

In post 283, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm sheeping ETL's vote for Xayzeck for sheeping

VOTE: Xayzeck

And these post come off as forced and buddying up to/trying to play to Maestro's meanypants capsrage shtick

In post 269, Xayzeck wrote:LOL this game has took a hilarious turn for getting picky and fed up over the silliest of tells and the dumbest of remarks


In post 270, Xayzeck wrote:VOTE: Oka

Now let's lynch this scumfuck


In post 271, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 257, Maestro wrote:vettork isn't confTown. He is confDoublevoter.

Don't EVER tell me what to do again.

Hi yes this very much

Also Oka's blatant dickriding on Vett makes me very comfortable. And I'm not sure how he's so confident in Vett's reads. Heck, he doesn't even look like he has developed reads on his own, it's like he's just blindly sheeping Vett.

It sucks

I hate it

Let's lynch it


In post 273, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 272, OkaPoka wrote:WAT.

Oh noes

LOL

what kind of reaction is this

In post 407, Not_Mafia wrote:Xay continues his awkward posting.

I'm leaning town on Oka because he doesn't seem to care what anyone here thinks of him, despite the wagon on him he's stuck to his guns going against the majority, I don't agree with on a lot of it but i can understand where a lot of it came from and out a lot of his scumminess down to playstyle
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:12 am

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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:13 am

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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:13 am

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In post 506, OkaPoka wrote:Wut. Does. that. mean.

Also, can I just say that I sort of see what Maestro is saying. Somewhat agree with it.


You were quite firmly on Vett's side up until now, going so far as to clean him for his power. I don't get where this readflip has come from.

In post 551, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 434, Not_Mafia wrote:Well the main things are him buying in to Vett's reads and the whole SK thing. I can easily see him telegraphing "I like Vett/Vett's attitude" and "I don't like Maestro/Maestro's attitude" to Vett is town and I can trust him and Maestro is scum/bad and I can't trust him. And by SK I think he means any generic third party but is just being clumsy about it. It seems like a glorified playstyle issue to me like the early reads on Vett were.

You however I just find completely forced and trying to fit in with the ETL/Maestro/Majiffy/mollie block, and if at least 3 of those are town which I'm pretty sure is true, it's exactly the kind of potenital townbloc I'd be wanting to either break up or worm my way in to. Nor do I see where your ETL read has come from or how you could characterise his read on you as coming from no where so it just looks like OMGUS.

Am I? I don't think I interacted at all with mollie/Majiffy/M significantly until recently? Majiffy only mildly, mollie almost not at all, M probably the most out of the three, but I agree that I've interacted with ETL the most, probably because this is the first game I've had with her, and I know her from sitechat.

How am I forcing myself to fit in with that block of players? Calling ETL obvtown? Because I hope it's clear that that wasn't serious. She was an early townread, though, but not obvtown, and I think I've said this already.

What did I do to try and fit in with mollie? Or Majiffy? Or M?

Also, I understood nothing from your first paragraph, I would appreciate rephrasing, because it's a little messy.


It's not necessarily your interactions but you whole demeanor and tone this game look completely and transparently forced to me, after Maestro's squabble with Oka you come in and sheep him and mirror his phrasing in a way that looks entirely unnatural

And about OKa. One issue was his early reads on Maestro and Vettrock. I can see him taking his personal dislike of Maestro/his style and associating that with a scumread, and the opposite in regards to Vett. And when he was talking about an SK I think he meant third party, but articulated himself poorly. I can explain most of what he's doing in some way or another. And even then I've seen town Oka do things I can't wrap my head around. The confidence and lack of regard of what the rest of town thinks of him is what makes me lean towards him being town.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:22 am

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In post 555, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 548, Brian Skies wrote:I also don't like being called obtuse and illiterate.

This is not a reason to scumread anyone nor a reason to get into a shitfest in-thread.

Maestro is a sassy sassy young man. <3
He is easily wound up. It is not really alignment indicative, and neither are his potshots at anyone.

That doesn't mean he's town and it doesn't mean he's scum. It's null.

I want to know why you spent so much time and effort refuting his case against
Vettrock
when it is pretty widely accepted at this point that he is not today's lynch? It really looks to me like Maestro was asked for an explanation, gave his thoughts about Vettrock, and then you come out of nowhere with a longer-than-mastin-post rebuttal when it didn't concern you at all, and you do not seem to be scumreading Maestro for it.

This is my problem. I don't understand what motivated you to do such a thing, and I cannot see how it would fit with a town POV.


you are really going out of your way here to justify a nullmaestro read
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:34 am

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That's because ETL in Maestro are bff.

The reason why I associate meanypants with scum is due to my first newbie game, where scum was aggressively angry and ragey. Then in my first scum game, y partner when all caps mode and ragey. So I feel raging is always overreactin. Which is why I will associate it usually with scum. Unless your Xay.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:38 am

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In post 571, pirate mollie wrote:you are really going out of your way here to justify a nullmaestro read

The point I was making is that he's null and Brian is attacking him for null things in order to defend Vettrock which I don't understand.
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:40 am

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We're experiencing a clash of meta vs objective playstyles.
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