Mini 1590: Brian's Flavorless Mini (Game Over)

[Anatole Kuragin]

1. Why would I be pushing so hard for a cop claim, which would win the town the game if I was scum?
2. Why would I sheep the only town power role as long as possible if I was scum?
3. Why would I so stupidly continue thinking and claiming Espresso wasn't scum (dude is king of the VIs) even until he was lynched if I was scum?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Can you please tell us who you protected each night Prof Fridays, if that's even your real name.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Assuming the cop isn't inactive with a town result on Fridays, it must be on one of the other players. Cop reveals 1 extra CI, Fridays protects him tonight, we get another result tomorrow, we win the game?

And if the cop dies we just lynch Fridays, who would have to be the last scum in this scenario.

Do these look like scum posts?

Ehhhhh, I think Mark's point still stands in large part.

VOTE: chaoslord

FoS: Anatole

Not as interested in Espressojet.

Still somewhat unsure on Espressojet. His list of reads seems pretty NULL to me *wink*

Oo, that's tempting.

VOTE: Espressojet

Ya got me, Hiraki, ya got me.

come on guys. fridays is obviously partnered with mark and espresso

Now compare them to these.

[bjc]

1. No
2. Depends on if we actually have a cop or not... But Fridays and Anatole are up there right now. Cop claim would really help clear things up.
3. having fitz, marquis
4. Phok (cop claiming would make this conftown), everyone else pretty much.
5. Marquis. Not only was his push against me really bad, with his vague vote and nothing since, but in the previous days I get the impression he knows too much about the ssetup to be town. This is the lynch I would prefer today, but Fitz is also worth a lynch for his continued push against Fridays' claim.

In fact as I type this I may just switch to Fitz. At the time it was widely believed that there was a cop/Fridays' role, meaning that unless Fitz got Fridays lynched today he would lose the game. Why? Because that's one free investigation tonight. The not guilty's are going to pile up, and even with a Godfather that's still some level of PoE; in my experience the GF can still be PoE'd in two categories: those who have been investigated and those who haven't. Obviously this doesn't work so well in MyLo/Lylo but you get the idea.

vote: Fitz

[Anatole Kuragin]

Everyone has more or less claimed and there is no cop. If there is a cop who hasn't claimed, they will assume as much responsibility for losing this game as Fridays will if he is actually a town bodyguard.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Would this game be horribly unbalanced if Neighborizer was our setup:

3 Mafia Goons
1 Neighborizer
9 Vanilla Townies

[Anatole Kuragin]

If neighborizer was our only power role in this setup*

[Anatole Kuragin]

Mod, should we assume that when we just see "Neighborizer" on a flip since this is a normal game, it will use http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer? As it says that is the only version approved for normalcy.

[Anatole Kuragin]

My theory is Fridays was neighbored, told ABR he was cop, and gave up Marky Mark in exchange for presumed CI status until LyLo.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Crazy? Or just crazy enough to work?

[bjc]

I'm going to err on the side of crazy...

[Anatole Kuragin]

Fridays didn't claim while ABR was alive because if he had claimed doctor, ABR would have said "wait, I thought you were a cop?" and couldn't claim cop because he didn't know if there actually was another cop which was entirely possible at the time.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Alright well if you guys won't lynch Fridays, can we at least consider this a personal win for me if this is the case?

[phokdapolees]

I guess it's time for me to claim

I'm the cop. I received Derivan's results, which was a guilty on Marky Mark N1, but he didn't submit one N2. ABR recruited me to the neighborhood last night, and I investigated havingfitz (also another neighbor) under his advice, and got a not guilty.

I'm gonna UNVOTE: and see how things go with Fridays' claim

[Anatole Kuragin]

Ok, so finally the ultimatum works. Prof, defend phok tonight or you die tomorrow.

we lynch Marquis, SKOT or Clusk.

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: SKOT

[Anatole Kuragin]

That sucks no N2 result though

[Prof Fridays]

Sounds good to me, at least the plan. I'm hesitant to lynch SKOT on the grounds of his pre-reveal vote on Mark. But perhaps at the time he didn't think it would necessarily go anywhere. Wouldn't mind Anatole being investigated tonight just for my peace of mind, anyway.

VOTE: SKOT

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think SKOT's unvote on Mark towards the end of the day at BEST moves that action to null though.

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Marquis

[Prof Fridays]

Don't think it's Marquis.

[havingfitz]

Actually...looking over votecounts....PF and Anatole stand out. PF's claim should sort him out eventually so I'll:

VOTE: Anatole

[Anatole Kuragin]

Fitz, the only difference in our lynch votes is that I voted for Chaos (because of ABR) and you didn't. Neither of us were on the Espresso lynch and we both voted on Marky Mark.

Can you give any specifics about what you find scummy?

[havingfitz]

First off...this isn't how you compare to me. I'm ~confirmed town and you aren't.

You were off Espresso (as was PF).
On or off MM made no difference due to his guilty.
You were on Chaos (as was PF).
I actually like you more than PF but his claim buys him a 1 day pass.

If you flip town and PF dies tonight....bjc is next.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Logically that case makes no sense.

There is one scum left.

You suspect two people based on identical grounds knowing AT LEAST one is a townie. Maybe that means it's a shitty basis to find scum on and entirely circumstantial?


You are ignoring things that are more significant to the game, like my consistency in supporting a strong, open discussion since ABR/?cop? became the driving forces in the town and my constant (sometimes misguided) scumhunting in favor of a few votes. I direct you to my responses to Fridays suggesting I was scum earlier.

Meanwhile you ignore clearly opportunistic player like SKOT or Marquis who either a) will lurk his way to a victory with your strategy of lynching everyone who has been scumhunting actively or b) doesn't give two shits about the game and will just let the town lose regardless of his alignment.