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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:14 pm

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I'm still figuring you out Jiffy or I'd be voting you right now.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:37 pm

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Well in the meantime be a dear and bus your buddy.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:46 pm

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I think Xay is town. And you thinking I'm scum shows just how off your reads are right now. So I don't really feel inclined to sheep you.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:02 pm

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Hokay whatevah bruh
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:25 pm

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In post 656, EspeciallyTheLies wrote::roll: Jiffy is totally ignoring
obvious town tells
and refusing to reevaluate because "oh noes i'm on my phone better lynch someone quick". That's ridiculous, hasty, and downright stupid.


I'm too dense to see these, can you show me them?
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:57 pm

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In post 679, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 656, EspeciallyTheLies wrote::roll: Jiffy is totally ignoring
obvious town tells
and refusing to reevaluate because "oh noes i'm on my phone better lynch someone quick". That's ridiculous, hasty, and downright stupid.


I'm too dense to see these, can you show me them?

I would like to see these obvious town tells as well.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:10 pm

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I.... already listed them....

He asked for time before hammer to share his thoughts.


And then did so.



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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:04 pm

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In post 681, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I.... already listed them....

He asked for time before hammer to share his thoughts.


And then did so.



:neutral:

So I went back and checked your ISO. The only post that I can see that would be described as listing of town tells is below:
In post 637, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 634, Not_Mafia wrote:And I'm not picking up the same townflail vibes off Xay. Is that why you no longer support his wagon ETL?

Say what?

I don't support it because his reaction to L1 was pretty town imo, and I would like to look elsewhere.

Vett, mollie, xay are off the table today.

Jiffy is being weird. It pings. Honestly not sure if I want to go through the trouble of lynching him today. Gives me a headache. Kind of hoping that can be sorted some other way.

Maestro is all kinds of wut. Need more scum hunting and less bitching from him to get a better read.

Okapoka is unnecessarily agressive, has contradictory reads/explanations, strange reversals, and will most likely get my vote after I go look at the VC.

NM seems town to me. As does Brian Skies, though BS needs more activity. I keep forgetting about him.


So for Xayzeck, you thought his reaction was town. I would tend to agree that it was more townish, He was the weakest of my three scum reads, so that would make him almost town. I wouldn't call that obvious town tells though. One it is not so obvious, and even though Xayzeck made a few posts, I'm not sure why you would use the plural, of "tell
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. I still think Maestro's scum, but no one else agrees with me.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:14 pm

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Elaborate on Maestro scum, Vett.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:16 pm

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Votecount 1-15



With 9 alive it will take 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

Xayzeck (3): Brian Skies, Not_Mafia, Majiffy, (L-2)
OkaPoka (3): Maestro, vettrock, EspeciallyTheLies (L-2)
Not_Mafia (1): Xayzeck (L-4)

Not voting (2): Pirate Mollie, OkaPoka

Page Count (Day): 27
Page Count (Total): 27


Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-12 00:26:43)

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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:43 pm

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In post 683, OkaPoka wrote:Elaborate on Maestro scum, Vett.

I've stated it before. It is not so much the rage and the twisting of facts and and misrepresenting what I have said to suit his agenda. Town doesn't have to do that. Town looks at the evidence and makes conclusions. Scum manipulates the evidence to make it fit their conclusions.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:13 pm

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Except my "conclusion" is that you're confDoublevoter and that because of your bad play your claim shouldn't be a reason to overlook you later in the game as possible Scum. How is that twisting of facts? Anything along the way is rage and you've said that's not your issue; my opinion that you've played badly is something you can't directly refute. So... do you really have a case?

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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:15 am

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In post 685, vettrock wrote:
In post 683, OkaPoka wrote:Elaborate on Maestro scum, Vett.

I've stated it before. It is not so much the rage and the twisting of facts and and misrepresenting what I have said to suit his agenda. Town doesn't have to do that. Town looks at the evidence and makes conclusions. Scum manipulates the evidence to make it fit their conclusions.


this is not even remotely true

I think you are attempting to view the game from a very black and white perspective and unfortunately that will lead you to a lot of mistakes. go look back on our newbie game, and look at the difference between anem and jimmy. fortunately I
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:17 am

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In post 687, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 685, vettrock wrote:
In post 683, OkaPoka wrote:Elaborate on Maestro scum, Vett.

I've stated it before. It is not so much the rage and the twisting of facts and and misrepresenting what I have said to suit his agenda. Town doesn't have to do that. Town looks at the evidence and makes conclusions. Scum manipulates the evidence to make it fit their conclusions.


this is not even remotely true

I think you are attempting to view the game from a very black and white perspective and unfortunately that will lead you to a lot of mistakes. go look back on our newbie game, and look at the difference between anem and jimmy. fortunately I
know
maestro so I won't be make that same mistake here.

In that game Aneninen was the one who was accused of misrepresenting things, and yes he was town. The difference is most of the misrepresentation there was due to the language barrier. I can assume by Maestro's posts that English is his first language.

I disagree that I have black and white perspective. There is a range of scumminess. I'm not saying my reads could not be wrong, but they are the best I have with the information that is available.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:36 am

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VC posted, my apologies for the delay.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:46 am

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In post 570, Not_Mafia wrote:It's not necessarily your interactions but you whole demeanor and tone this game look completely and transparently forced to me, after Maestro's squabble with Oka you come in and sheep him and mirror his phrasing in a way that looks entirely unnatural

And about OKa. One issue was his early reads on Maestro and Vettrock. I can see him taking his personal dislike of Maestro/his style and associating that with a scumread, and the opposite in regards to Vett. And when he was talking about an SK I think he meant third party, but articulated himself poorly. I can explain most of what he's doing in some way or another. And even then I've seen town Oka do things I can't wrap my head around. The confidence and lack of regard of what the rest of town thinks of him is what makes me lean towards him being town.

What specifically do you feel is forced? Was it a specific post that made you feel so? Because I don't think I've phrased a post differently in this game when compared with the rest of my meta.

Heck, does this mean that the bulk of your scumread on me is tone?

And what do you mean by you've seen townOka do things you can't wrap your head around? Are you referring to in this game or outside this game? And how is this relevant to your read on him now? Is the confidence and lack of regard also meta tells?
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:47 am

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In post 670, OkaPoka wrote:Vett is maybe scum,

this read of yours is really all over
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:22 am

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In post 690, Xayzeck wrote:What specifically do you feel is forced? Was it a specific post that made you feel so? Because I don't think I've phrased a post differently in this game when compared with the rest of my meta.


I quoted a bunch of post earlier, that's the bulk of it

In post 690, Xayzeck wrote:Heck, does this mean that the bulk of your scumread on me is tone?


Yes

In post 690, Xayzeck wrote:And what do you mean by you've seen townOka do things you can't wrap your head around? Are you referring to in this game or outside this game? And how is this relevant to your read on him now?


From another game, basically I had the game in autowin, if i was lying I would have been autolynched the next day and the game would still be autowin, yet he continued to push my lynch for no apparent reason. And it plays in because for him "What you're doing makes no sense" won't automatically extend to scum.

In post 690, Xayzeck wrote:Is the confidence and lack of regard also meta tells?


It's partially meta based, but also stands on it's own, as in I find it townish independently but it also fits with his meta.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:05 pm

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Oh look two days of people doing absolutely nothing with deadline approaching. Big surprise there. :roll:
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:12 pm

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Is anyone willing to vote Vett? I'd prefer to lynch Vett over Xay.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:54 pm

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In post 694, OkaPoka wrote:Is anyone willing to vote Vett? I'd prefer to lynch Vett over Xay.

I don't mind, he'll be a pain in lylo anyway
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:55 pm

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Though you're a pretty good wagon today too
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:55 pm

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and the vett wagon is like...nonexistent

we can still do NM though, i'm down for that
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:25 pm

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I don't know about NM lynch, better than you but if it really comes down to it.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:26 pm

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