Open 564: Duck Duck Goose - Game Over!

[uctriton00]

We've been over this - look at my posts yesterday.

Rehash it for me

[uctriton00]

Hopkirk, tell me about your vote too

[Anatole Kuragin]

Ucitron - why did you avoid reading the game until prompted about your opinion on a particular wagon (which happened to be the main substance of the game so far)? Why were you even posting after that? You even voted someone for joining that wagon in a scummy way even though you never read the case to begin with? Are you kidding me?

I see your vote on chaos was originally for discussing winning by lynches rather than night actions then, in your opinion, waffling on that. Do you find that scummier than someone saying scumhunting is useless and then avoiding all interaction with other players after being pressured?

that's the dumbest strategy I've ever heard if you're serious

Vote: Anatole Kuragin

It's an absolutely fine plan.

And I do agree that we shouldn't purely randomize (at least not so bluntly with coin flips).

Leave it up to the individual person to decide (which is random in itself).

The top quote is your response to me saying flipping a coin was a bad idea.

Obvious flip flopping to move easy votes around, bullshit vote on a player then claiming you hadn't even read the game.

Add to that that you haven't actually done any scumhunting this game.

[Hopkirk]

Vote: chaoslord

VOTE: Uctriton00

As before.

Hopkirk, tell me about your vote too

Interesting.

Why did you vote him if you thought he was town at the end instead of looking for scum on his wagon if you were sure he was town and scum was on his wagon?

[uctriton00]

148 = I was prompted about my opinion? All I remember is logging in and seeing an L-1 wagon opportunity.
149 = No, I do not find it scummier. I'm assuming you are implying mathbandit in the latter.
204 = Randomness is an absolutely fine plan, but after reading your reactions that we shouldn't be so blunt with coin flipping randomness, I now agree with you guys

Anatole I could have sworn I wrote those exact 3 same sentences earlier, did you not read them?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Just because I read it doesn't mean I buy it.

[uctriton00]

Obvious flip flopping to move easy votes around, bullshit vote on a player then claiming you hadn't even read the game.

Add to that that you haven't actually done any scumhunting this game.

Flip flopping? I'm pretty sure I know my votes:
Anatole after I jumped on you for saying that we shouldn't be random
Kyndy for being the scummiest person on the wagon
chaos for saying we should scum hunt, and then saying he's just waiting for something scummy to happen
mathbandit after following the logic that he is likely avoiding everyone and trying to hide from a mislynch
now chaoslord for the reason i just previously said
now kyndy for voting me and likely confirming that i'm onto something

[Anatole Kuragin]

yeah that's a pretty shitty track record and none of those votes indicate any scumhunting beyond a superficial level

[uctriton00]

Why did you vote him if you thought he was town at the end instead of looking for scum on his wagon if you were sure he was town and scum was on his wagon?

Because I started to believe he was scum. And now he flipped town.

Not sure what you want me to do.

[uctriton00]

yeah that's a pretty shitty track record and none of those votes indicate any scumhunting beyond a superficial level

Finding scum on wagons is a legitimate way to find scum. The support behind kyndy that I got after calling him out was great and I think we did a good job on that. There was about no movement on chaoslord though.

The longer the votes on me go the more I'd like to see the logic as well (something mathbandit should have at least done if he really was going to be town).

[uctriton00]

kyndy humor me for a second.

What were your thoughts Day 1? Similar to how I do it, go off the top of your head and recap what you did/saw/felt/etc Day 1.

[kibbles0515]

Wait, what?
So not satisfied = vote kyndy.
Huh. Alright then?

Should've said "I'm not satisfied with your explanation of yesterday's events and whatnot.

However,

lol

Remember how I said that the L-1 that happened by Page 5 was way too fast, and that it means it's likely a mislynch and will have scum on it? I'm right in that it was a mislynch. That makes me feel like I'm right in that there is scum on it.

You thought that mathbandit's lynch would be a mislynch, yet

you

were the hammer vote? Hep was right; we had plenty of time until the deadline.
VOTE: uctriton

[uctriton00]

Originally I thought it would be a mislynch, then I thought it wouldn't be a mislynch. Now I know it was a mislynch.

[uctriton00]

I wouldn't ever purposefully hammer someone if I don't at least think it will be a scum lynch. Those are called info lynches and I really don't like them.

[Ki-Gi]

Wait, what?
So not satisfied = vote kyndy.
Huh. Alright then?

Should've said "I'm not satisfied with your explanation of yesterday's events and whatnot.

However,

lol

Remember how I said that the L-1 that happened by Page 5 was way too fast, and that it means it's likely a mislynch and will have scum on it? I'm right in that it was a mislynch. That makes me feel like I'm right in that there is scum on it.

You thought that mathbandit's lynch would be a mislynch, yet

you

were the hammer vote? Hep was right; we had plenty of time until the deadline.
VOTE: uctriton

You thought kyndy was worth voting over uctriton00 at first just because of her explanation for what happened? Care to elaborate?

[chaoslord54]

Hey Guys,

Sorry I was out of town. I will read over everything and will try to post tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

[Ki-Gi]

"out of town"

heheheheh

[Ki-Gi]

get it cuz ur not town

[SMP]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

6 votes for a lynch

kyndy101

(L-5) - uctriton00

uctriton00

(L-2) - Anatole Kuragin, Hopkirk, kyndy 101, kibbles0515

Not Voting

- Ki-Gi, chaoslord54, McFriendly, Hephaestus, Psychotropia

Day ends in (expired on 2014-08-23 09:00:00)

[uctriton00]

thumb twiddle, where is the rest of the game?

[chaoslord54]

Okay so I read over everything that has happened so far and let me start off with this

IMO, although I am not quite arguing that Ucitron is town, I don't feel that pointing out that he hammered is proof that he is scum. as he points out in 262 I feel that his play in day 1 kinda shows this. At first he did not think Mathbandit was scum and made a decent argument on why but just like the rest of us as Mathbandit became more dodgy and hard pressed it was hard not to think he was scum so I can understand why he switched and in fact he even explained his switch in day 1 in 227 which could make anyone think he's scum. Again, I'm not trying to argue rather or not he's town or what I just feel the current argument on him is not very productive.

[chaoslord54]

The biggest reason why I'm trying to point this out is because I don't want us to mislynch someone if at all possible for us not to. So we need to keep in mind everything and not just form another quicklynch or such a large wagon so quickly as we did on D-1 with mathbandit

[hephaestus]

Conflicted about uctriton and I could see chaos being scum as well, but my biggest suspect atm is Hopkirk though I can't really pinpoint exactly why... His play just feels pushy and too sure of his case and part of it is I just don't agree with the people he's going after. Comes across to me more as scum searching out viable mislynch targets than town actually considering other players' motives.

[uctriton00]

Again, I'm not trying to argue rather or not he's town or what I just feel the current argument on him is not very productive.

Welcome to my boat. Now I ask you, do you think it's possible there are scum on this wagon currently on me, using the logic that people such as kibbles have been using?

[uctriton00]

Comes across to me more as scum searching out viable mislynch targets than town actually considering other players' motives.

If you feel this is what is happening, then let's work with it. Waiting for chaos to respond first before I share a theory with you.