Alice in Wonderland - [Game Over!]

[Konowa]

Even the scumread on reinoe seems forced.

Awkward is probably the best description.

[Konowa]

I don't even?

[notscience]

Marquis is just in denial

Because he has to keep up the charade of thinking I'm scum but deep down he knows I'm town

[Konowa]

notscience, since you are here, can you explain the Vi thing?

[Skullduggery]

Blargh, 20 pages in 24 hours. Give me an hour or two to get caught up.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.14

Aronis [1] - Skullduggery
4burner [6] - MattP, Natirasha, Reinoe, Konowa, Prof Fridays, Aronis
notscience [4] - rack, Vi, Marquis, notscience
hiplop [1] - Malakittens
Vi [2] - Salamence20, Le Cupcake
Natirasha [1] - hiplop

Not Voting [2]

- Titus, 4burner

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch

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Deadline is Auguest 17, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-08-17 12:00:00)

[Le Cupcake]

pg25 confounds me.

[Salamence20]

NS is town because scum wouldnt reach so far with this to get a mislynch.

Vi or 4 lynch plz.

Konowa, for some reason I trust you. Stay on burner, I may go back on.

[4burner]

In a list of 6 people in an early game readslist, 3 of them are conveniently in a hood together?

Or, he heard about the hood from his scumbuddy (Let's just call this scumbuddy Vi, shall we?) And then when he makes a readslist, he recognized those names from his qt and subconciously slipped it in

It's the flandre slip from last borkgame

I mentioned 7 people. Get your facts correct please this is my life we are talking about here.

I am not so sure that that is a slip, but the post in question comes off incredibly forced.

Meaning it reads as if he knows they are town and he is trying to invent reasons for why they are town.

I gave reasons for Sala and no one else. So, not sure what you are picking up here.

[Konowa]

VoteCount 1.12

Aronis [1] - Skullduggery
4burner [5] - MattP, Natirasha, Reinoe, Konowa, Prof Fridays
notscience [3] - rack, Vi, Aronis
hiplop [1] - Malakittens
Vi [4] - notscience, Salamence20, 4burner, Le Cupcake
Natirasha [1] - hiplop

Not Voting [2]

- Marquis, Titus

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch

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Deadline is Auguest 17, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-08-17 12:00:00)

VoteCount 1.14

Aronis [1] - Skullduggery
4burner [6] - MattP, Natirasha, Reinoe, Konowa, Prof Fridays, Aronis
notscience [4] - rack, Vi, Marquis, notscience
hiplop [1] - Malakittens
Vi [2] - Salamence20, Le Cupcake
Natirasha [1] - hiplop

Not Voting [2]

- Titus, 4burner

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch

.

Deadline is Auguest 17, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-08-17 12:00:00)

Like, I do not know what to make of this. The Aronis switch from notscience to 4burner bugs me. Marquis' vote also bugs me.

[Salamence20]

NS can you link to borkgame with slip plz

[Konowa]

...snip...Dislike my vote on Aronis after 4burner's post #74. It is too -forced-, for lack of a better word. The subsequent explanation in post #271 does not follow at all. Nati town read? Vi established topic of discussion? Maybe posturing would have been a better word for post #74...snip...

The post in question is forced/awkward/someone who has inside knowledge and is trying to establish "reads" on "postcounts" but did a really bad job of it.

[4burner]

I'll accept awkward. But if you care to check the first 3 pages I feel like those are the exact people who warranted comment. I'm getting strung up because a hood happens to all be active.

[Salamence20]

Again, Vi wasnt a topic of discussion.

Unless you played with her and know her meta.

[notscience]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37614

Why do I suspect vi?

3 person neighborhood

I'm town

Reinoe looks really town

Vi remains

[Vi]

Reinoe looks really town

How so?

[notscience]

SO many wagons.

Hard to choose just one.

Well, I suppose I can bus effectively, since it's so early in the game:

UNVOTE:

VOTE: notscience

Well, I suppose

I can bus

effectively, since it's so early in the game:

I can

bus

VOTE: rack


Dodgson's_method(Dodgson was another name for Lewis Carroll)

Dodgson's method is a voting system proposed by the author, mathematician and logician Charles Dodgson, better known as

Lewis Carroll.

The method is to extend the Condorcet method by swapping candidates until a Condorcet winner is found. The winner is the candidate which requires the minimum number of swaps. Dodgson proposed this voting scheme in his 1876 work "A method of taking votes on more than two issues". Given an integer k and an election, it is NP-complete to determine whether or not a candidate can become a Condorcet winner with fewer than k swaps.

This suspicion about someone in his hood being involved in a bussin comment.

It reminds me of my paranoia flaring when I saw burner mention all 3 of us.

So.

Similar reactions=similar motivations

[Konowa]

I'll accept awkward. But if you care to check the first 3 pages I feel like those are the exact people who warranted comment. I'm getting strung up because a hood happens to all be active.

Again, nowhere did I say that. Your Nati townread comes out of nowhere and it should not be warranted at all for what she did thus far at that point. No way, shape, or form was Vi a "topic of discussion" at that point. So yes, I stand by my assertation that the post reads as scum who knows who town is and is trying to put out townreads.

[Salamence20]

Vi, please answer the probablility of scum having pregame chat.

I mean you are a scholar of probability. Not reading comp

[Konowa]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37614

Why do I suspect vi?

3 person neighborhood

I'm town

Reinoe looks really town

Vi remains

At this point, I think trying to outguess the mod is futile. Are you just assuming a scum in a neighborhood of three and saying "I am town, Reinoe is town, thus Vi is scum" and not even looking at what Vi is posting? Or is there more to it? I did not read the link.

[Salamence20]

The link was to ser the slip. But you have to find it first

[4burner]

Again, Vi wasnt a topic of discussion.

Unless you played with her and know her meta.

Vi was questioned. I was weighing in. Not a major issue at all, no, but in the first 3 pages it stood out as important to me. More important than anything going on with Cupcake/Nati/Mala.

This has all been spoken about at length already. Either you believe it's a slip or not. I don't want to keep hammering my defense and making the thread impossible to read/catch up on. I did a big ol' post one or two pages back. Unless there's some specific questions to me, I'm going to try and stay quiet. What bugs me is that nobody seems inclined to enter into a dialogue. The amount of 'lol nah your scum' I've got is... annoying.

But as was mentioned earlier, don't play the victim, just play the game.

NS/Cupcakes I'm wary of, but gut says no purely based on the strength of the push.
Vi I'm just confused about and would probably need another day or so of interaction to get a proper read.
Aronis is still hanging around my scumlist because of his NS/4burner vote switch, and early game vote-witholding when he called ...someone out. I've forgotten who. He didn't follow his words with a vote, essentially.

[MattP]

I'm really interested to know what Prof Fridays role is

[Vi]

This suspicion about someone in his hood being involved in a bussin comment.

It reminds me of my paranoia flaring when I saw burner mention all 3 of us.

So.

Similar reactions=similar motivations

Still lost, unless you're claiming Neighbor with rack.

Bussing jokes are never stylish but that doesn't seem like reason for a solid Town read on someone for calling that out.

In addition, reinoe's posts have basically equated to wagon jumps/justifications for the easiest reasons available.

Vi, please answer the probablility of scum having pregame chat.

Very high. To answer your next question, I thought 4burner was suggesting that his Neighbor chat may have been open for pregame.

[Malakittens]

Okay.

4 burner is irking me that is all.
Answer my question please. Please.

I also wanna be here for this live discussion but four mins left on break =\