In post 48, dybeck wrote: In post 46, Csareo wrote: In post 45, dybeck wrote: In post 42, Csareo wrote:UNVOTE: Hep
VOTE: Aegor]
Dude, don't say something extremely vague and suspicious, and ignore people when you're asked to clarify.
Anti town as shit itself.
Did you just start a healthy RVS wagon and then as soon as it started to build up some momentum, deliberately jump off before it put its target under pressure?
UNVOTE: VOTE: Csareo
Mate, we use RVS to stir discussion.
RVS ends as soon as discussion begins, and scum hunting can start.
I would rather pressure Aegor into telling me what his sentence started.
A couple questions come to mind...
1. Why did you say I started the wagon? I hardly would count that as starting a wagon.
2. Why was the wagon healthy?
3. What information did you expect him to give? RVS isn't about having other players out information, rather than stirring discussion in the hopes of scum tells.
4. If the wagon was healthy, why weren't you on it?
@Townies, what are your thoughts on post #38? Am I overthinking this?
OK I think scumhunting just started. The whole point of the RVS is that nobody responds to anything unless a few votes are thrown around. And it's much better to have them focused in a few directions rather than flat across the board. Early wagons are healthy. I don't think I ever suggested that I wanted the wagonee to spew game information, nor that everyone in the game should be on it, so I'm not sure why you're misrepresenting in that way, but your post gave the impression to me that you'd found some excuse to sneak off from a wagon before it bore any fruit or caused any discomfort for its target, and I think it's worth calling you on it. If one of you flips scum, I will be taking long looks at the other.
Couple of questions I have to ask, specifically because of this post...
1. Nobody responds to anything until a couple of votes are thrown around? RVS in reality is quite useless, and really hurts ACTUAL scum hunting. While it does stir discussion, the real point of having a random voting stage, a simple introduction fits the bill just as easily. What I'm wondering, is why you make this contradiction.
First you stated that we were waiting for information, now you're saying nobody should talk for the first couple of votes? Clarify or admit to contradiction, but there is something wrong in those two posts.
2. Sorry, I shouldn't of straw manned you. That is on me, but in post #45, you say "before he's put under pressure". What do you expect to result from that pressure?
3. Okay, there is a LOT wrong with your logic. You are stating pretty clearly, that it looks like my post was in protection of hep. This is not the case. For several reasons.........
- If I didn't want momentum on Hep, I wouldn't of pressured him in the first place
- I had a legitimate reason to vote for aegor. He refused to answer a simple question. That is known as scum hunting, and I would rather cast a strategic scum hunting vote vs a random one
- I gave a subtle attempt to vote. I didn't switch votes immediately, giving Aegor time to respond.
4. Hopefully we have now established that you pulled a scum tell out of thin air, so let's move on to the game. Describe your thoughts on the interaction that took place in posts #38=#42
That seems to be the blind spot in your case. You haven't acknowledged the other side of coin. Narrow minded thinking is the downfall of town.
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