Suburban Warfare - GAME OVER

[chamber]

I'm still a little hesitant about quick lynch possibilities.

[Desperado]

we are never going to progress the game without any wagons. nothing is happening because scum are among those who already have votes

[xRECKONERx]

Official Vote Count

Shinobi

(1): Desperado

Metal Sonic

(1): Oversoul

Desperado

(1): Marquis

chamber

(1): Antihero

Antihero

(1): Metal Sonic

Not Voting

(3): farside22, Shinobi, chamber

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2014-08-18 13:00:00)

[farside22]

Chamber: whom besides ms are you hesitant on and why?

[Oversoul]

Will do a Day 1 reread tonight and post more analysis.

[chamber]

Chamber: whom besides ms are you hesitant on and why?

What?

[farside22]

I'm still a little hesitant about quick lynch possibilities.

[farside22]

Please don't advertise in games.

[chamber]

it hides it if its 4 lines or longer, collapse the white space.


I still don't understand your question. I want to answer: Everyone? But that seems pointless so I assume I'm not understanding what you are asking.

[farside22]

it hides it if its 4 lines or longer, collapse the white space.


I still don't understand your question. I want to answer: Everyone? But that seems pointless so I assume I'm not understanding what you are asking.

Thanks.

You say your hesitant to vote due to quick lynch.
I know you think ms is scum, whom else are you concerned with as far as quick lynch goes?

[chamber]

I still don't understand your question.

Who am I afraid will get quick lynched if they sit at 2 votes? Everyone.

[farside22]

I still don't understand your question.

Who am I afraid will get quick lynched if they sit at 2 votes? Everyone.

I feel clear.

You think shin is scum, but you don't want to vote him because of quick lynch.

Am I missing something so far?

If you think he's scum then you wouldn't worry as much about a quick lynch.
Unless you think everyone is scum and have no town read then why?

[chamber]

Unless you think everyone is scum and have no town read then why?

It's not inconceivable that he's town? I don't know what you expect, but I don't have that much conviction in my reads.

[chamber]

I normally say that on a good day I'm like 50% accurate. Given the percentage of scum in the game right now its maybe up to like 75%, but I'm still going to hesitate over losing the game 25% of the time.

[Antihero]

Why did the post seem like it was fake rage from shinobi but genuine from antihero?

someone doesn't know me very well...

You typically seem disingenuous to farside? I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

i don't do fake rage. as either alignment. and don't go there.

[Antihero]

well farside, there's this newfound swell of me-haters here in [oversoul, metal sonic, and marquis] and the old hand here who's been trying to make me the asshole of this game the whole time [chamber].

that's scum founded and driven. all the way.

[Oversoul]

I've thought you were scum since Bob's lynch. Don't kid yourself.

[Shinobi]

I don't get why I'm so universally scumread with only one person giving a shit in regards to figuring me out.

Why are we all okay with this? Talk to me, people. I'm an open book. Hit me.

[Shinobi]

@Chamber: Why am I scum? All you've said about me thus far is that the nightkill points to me, and you haven't really stated anything else in regards to my play or how I've been interacting with people and whatnot. Explain.

@Farside: Why is it that my interaction with Oversoul is fake? You said that it is, but you haven't really elaborated on why. Also, I don't know why you expect me to instantly understand and give a solid read on MS based on his actions today. I've said he was scummy for most of this game thus far, especially since his most recent scumread was on that of a guy who was never even around ever. His only strong posts of the game came in at the start and at the end, and he coasted up until right now. I don't understand how you have him as a strong townread.

@Antihero: Why is it that the hate-wagon against you is particularly scum-motivated? Do you think that any of those people have any legitimate issues with you? I thought you were towny throughout most of this game, but you've disappeared throughout most of yesterday and weren't around at deadline when you said you would. Your read on me changed and all you've said about it was that it was bullshit. Why?

@Oversoul: Why is Antihero scum? I actually remember talking about this earlier in the game, but I didn't have a problem with the way he handled the Bob wagon. Give us more reasoning. I need to know more about your thoughts in regards to him.

We have so many scumreads but everyone refuses to elaborate. I'm probably going to reread today and post my reads afterwards.

Also, I will point out that the number of people gunning for Antihero is making me nervous. I can kind of see what he means, but I want to know what he actually thinks of the reasoning everyone else is using to come after him.

[Shinobi]

Definitely not comfortable lynching today, btw.

[Oversoul]

Ok. I am rereading Day 1. It is late here so my posts are going to be short.

I am basically at a point in the game where I don't really care anymore. Even if we lynch correctly today, we still have to lynch correctly the next day phase, I think and the next. We are trapped in a MyLo from here on out. I don't feel confident the current composition of players will be able to endure that to a town win so I'm basically taking the surrender at 20 route rather than trying to turtle for a potential win. :shrug: I just don't have the fight in me.

I kind of echo the sentiments of Shinobi. I don't understand why anyone is scum reading me other than Farside but I am in a lot of people's proposed scum teams.

Why? Why am I being suspected and why are my earlier questions about this being ignored?

I just need some solid town reads and a single solid scum read.
At this point, I think Farside is very probably town. She is acting very similarly to her play in Event Card early on where she was just gunning for me and not letting anything go. She's like a dog with a bone. She'll chew on it and chew on it until you can hardly tell it is a bone anymore. I really don't see scum Farside doing all that she can to vote for no lynch here. I think she would try to at least put some suspicion on a current person being voted. Instead she is really trying to push suspicion onto me. That is townie.

Desperado I think is probably town. This read stems from the blow up he had with Mollie. I kinda believe the stuff he was saying about "I wouldn't do the same thing twice as scum" and the fact that he almost replaced out of the game. I don't think that is scum Desp. He went into a huge back and forth with Mollie and I think that makes him very likely town. His play leaves A LOT to be desired. If Desp is scum, kudos to him. He fooled me well on his early play, but I've always said his scum game was stronger than his town game. I don't really understand his recent statement "if we're lynching, why not Shin? Seems like a no brainer." when he has a scum read on both Shinobi and Metal Sonic and MS at least has more support and more likelihood to be scum.

This is where things get really... eh.

I can't really find super townie players to fill in the remaining slots for my town reads. I felt stronger about things earlier in the day, like Chamber and Marquis but after rereading things I am less inclined to trust those opinions so I am just going run through my strongest scum reads.

Shinobi and his replacements REALLY stuck out to me that he was a replacing scum. Shin's posts after he replaced in also left a bad taste in my mouth. His most recent posts echo my own thoughts *a lot*. The amount of effort he is putting in also makes me feel like he is town. I know i am basing a lot of my reads off effort but there's just something about these people's posts that strike me as genuine and not the forced kind of effort that Anti is giving off.

Marquis I thought was probably town based on his play but I'm not even entirely sure anymore. Desp's early comments that Marquis has a lot of words in his posts but not really saying or contributing much is accurate. It is also accurate for Antihero. I encourage everyone to read his early game and then tell me that he is truly taking opinions on things.

What?

that was all in the setup info at the beginning

metal's given

detailed

answers about questions regarding his claim.

i'm thinking it's real....

This post came after Anti promised that he would give us content. This is not content and MS just gave him something to go off when MS's actions were SUPER suspect and it looked fake as fuck. I could see Anti acting this way because people who DON'T believe cop guilties like this are the ones suspected because scum who know it is wrong will act that way type of thing.

vezok is definitely town

vezok is definitely town

i was

going

to say that, but something made me less than 100% on it.

forgot what is was, though.... ._.

Interesting that both of them can go from believing so strongly that Vezo was town to lynching him.

I don't like MS doing his gambit and then leaving a portion of the game out from his analysis, interestingly enough, one of the people missing is Bob.

Yeah, fuck it. Too tired for this shit. Done with this game. Don't really care either way anymore.

VOTE: Antihero

[Oversoul]

Like all I ask is to read Day 1 Antihero posts, then read my comments about him after the Bob lynch in my iso.

[Shinobi]

That was a really good post.

[chamber]

I don't want to belittle oversouls effort, because he lasted longer than I did at reaching the eh fuck this game mindset. But he definitely reached it there. What makes that post really good in your mind?

[Marquis]

hi oversoul

if you want to bus i will help you

VOTE: anti