Alice in Wonderland - [Game Over!]

[Salamence20]

RVS is overrated

Scum do not have fakeclaims based on my character. Scum are random characters, regardless of good/bad.

I am town with a very anti-town day ability that I will use JUST ONCE to prove my claim on NS.

Dont ask me to claim, because when I use this ability, you will know who I am and see why scum dont have fakeclaims.

Lets discuss.

[Salamence20]

Sala please not another one of your gambits.

No. Not a gambit.

I need to do this now becausemy claim is scummy as hell and viscum would love to take a shot

[Salamence20]

Three Alices kinda suggests scum do not have fakeclaims or that the game is breakable by flavor.

That being said, I am out most if the day. What time here will be spent modding and avoiding RVS.

Nope, good characters can be (and probably are) scum.

[Salamence20]

Also I hate RVS. I always break RVS.

And if I got wagoned and didnt mention this as soon as this game starts im dead

[Salamence20]

Why did you already pick NS for your ability? That doesn't seem helpful as either alignment.

Because its NS.

[Salamence20]

MALA GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON WHY I SHOULDNT DAYVIG YOU RIGHT NOW

See, I want Dayvig.

[Salamence20]

Because using this ability before we have reads leads me to an auto-lynch.

[Salamence20]

Also, it doesnt get confirmed til night.

[Salamence20]

I don't like Salamence. At all.

In general or this game?

Or both?

[Salamence20]

I'm better vigbait. But I need to prove I can play this game somehow.

I mean, let's say, in the average game, I get wagoned to L-1. I get asked to claim. I claim my role, and suddenly, hammer because my role is bad. That's why I'm doing it now, so if in case I did get wagoned you would know what I am claiming.

My role is very anti-town; I mean, it could boon town if I got lucky, but it's more likely to hinder us. More on the claim when I use it much later.

Anyways, for now, I'm liking Skull (I read him like MoI), Mala (natural paranoia about possible gambit), and Nati (just because she won't play much D1 anyways).

I'm not liking Reinoe, Marquis, and Rack's openings. Not a fan of how NS is taking this news.

I have bias for Titus so whatever.
I would say I don't like Kat's play, but I think this is normal play for her?
Fridays and I are masons. I don't know what that means.

@Skull: I chose NS because NS and I don't like each other. I used Vi as an example because she knows when I'm pulling a fast one vs actually trying to do something

[Salamence20]

No. Not a gambit.

I need to do this now becausemy claim is scummy as hell and viscum would love to take a shot

If your claim is scummy, then why is Vi in particular the person that you're worried about?

Vote: Aronis

(L-8)

Someone who has experience with Viscum know if Vi is fluffy as scum? I know she is fluffy as town, but idk as scum.

What about my play thus far do you not like, sala?

Vote: aronis

I retract. I didn't know you were referencing another game with Mala.

"I'm going to do something to you tonight but not telling you what it is, and you trying to guess what it is will be a bad reaction"

Well, your sarcasm about me using a trollish PR on you reminds me of this. All you are missing is the part where you say I am full of shit. But my reads aren't superior, calm down dude.

Maybe it will make you feel better that I'm not stealing your vote, or anything involving your vote.

Irrelevant: Is that Terra? If so, points to you /irrelevant

This is a completely veiled buddying attempt so you don't target me with whatever that is

I'm a masonizer, of course I am buddying you.

/sarcasm

Could you expand on this?

Reinoe: Completely irrelevant posting so far. I'm betting on a fake post restriction. I will get back to this later.

Rack: Blah blah blah random votes aren't truly random blah blah blah guilty to vote because you are mafia blah blah blah.

Marquis: What the fuck was that?

He has to at the very least prove i t

but rathr than wait for today to be done and use it on a null/scum read he's already opted to use it on me

Using it on a read is not my plan as you won't be affected by this until after the lynch. Plus you can't be lynched D1 to confirm my day-ability.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you plan to use it on Notscience regardless. If that's the case, what's the point in waiting for "reads"? Whose reads in particular are you waiting for?

In order for me to use this ability, I have to say a certain phrase. This phrase, had I used it right away, would give scum the ability to quicklynch me because my character is a bad person. I want reads because I don't want to be today's lynch because it won't help town.

I should be taken out via vig or before lylo. I won't mind.

What didn't you like about Marquis's first post? I see gibberish and nothing else.

Exactly. That's why I don't like it.

You said you were worried about Scum-Vi specifically, though. What difference would it make for Scum-Vi to know whether you're pulling a gambit or not? Wouldn't Town-Salamence be worried about her reaction regardless?

Eh maybe. I feel like both alignments would be different. Vi is a light and everyone else is flies. If she was to vote me because she doesn't like my claim or think its scum, a lot of people would follow.

...Eh, I'm tired, and I don't know why but I feel like I didn't answer that question fully. Apologies if this is not what you are looking for. I may come back to this tomorrow.

I think ns is town

Hmmm, I kinda don't.

Not interested in lynching Nati.

Your vote was RVS, ya?

Post restrictions are bastard, and this was not advertised as a bastard game.

Wrong. Not bastard. Phineas and Ferb Mafia, Cupcake mafia, and 90s cartoon mafia had post restrictions, not bastard games.

@Vi, NS, and Friday

You all are bringing up points that involve people calling people scum and not voting. So how do you all feel about Aronis? (Vi is voting him, Friday isn't because loltown, and NS isn't because I'm going to steal his vote).

[Salamence20]

Also, Aronis is town. His behavior seems very much in line with what I've experienced of town-Aronis.

My dilemma?

Mirhawk did the same thing (not vote but call someone scummy) in Epicmafiatime. This is why I feel town on aronis.

BUT I don't like this because he never answered the question of if this "hate" was personal or in-game.

[Salamence20]

REINOE

If you have some post restriction, post a picture/movie of Disney's alice in wonderland.

If you have a post restriction, I think I can target you and cure you.

If not, you get my vote.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Reinoe

[Salamence20]

Also, no I don't give, I take.

[Salamence20]

Other people to get my vote NS and Aronis

[Salamence20]

@Vi:

20% Post restriction
80% He hasn't voted yet, making me think he can't or he's faking.

What's your experience with Aronis?

[Salamence20]

SO many wagons.

Hard to choose just one.

Well, I suppose I can bus effectively, since it's so early in the game:

UNVOTE:

VOTE: notscience

What the fuck is this?

[Salamence20]

Townish: Skull, Mala, Nati, 4burner, Fridays
Scummish: Reinoe, Notscience, Rack, Aronis

Idkish: Titus, Cupcake, Marquis, Vi

[Salamence20]

what happened to your joke?

[Salamence20]

After a talk with FakeGod, I can remove Post Restrctions.

we are not lynching reinoe today.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rack

[Salamence20]

Although the more I think about it the more I want to be on that wagon, lol.

VOTE: notty

Mala probably is scum. I'd be voting but my vote is uber special and I don't care to vote yet.

Saving it for when it's necessary to lynch scum.

So mala is scum, but you want to vote scum?

Ummmm!?!? You vote locked?

[Salamence20]

After a talk with FakeGod, I can remove Post Restrctions.

we are not lynching reinoe today.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rack

Why would you view this as anti-town?

Post restrictions hinder communications.

Anti-town.

@Kat: One of the funniest games to read. Seeing scum die in one day is funny. Plus fate. Fate is awesome.

@MattP: Got anything to say or do you have a post restriction too?

[Salamence20]

3 posts isnt enough for me to scream fake.

Also i dont think its fake

[Salamence20]

If youre claiming lewis carroll, someone needs to claim tim burton.

[Salamence20]

OFF WITH REINOE'S HEAD!

[Salamence20]

Cool, unless Reinoe is *Blank*, he wont have a post restriction tomorrow.

[Salamence20]

lol, figured you were the queen

Fuck fakegod.
Should have been a dayvig.
But noooooooooooooooo. Thats too fun.

[Salamence20]

Sal if you can remove PRs why did you consider yourself antitown?

Because he turns into a VT/Goon

[Salamence20]

Everyday

[Salamence20]

3 posts isnt enough for me to scream fake.

Also i dont think its fake

[Salamence20]

Sal, I do not think you should use your ability. We can live with Post Restrictions and PRs likely counter mafia power.

TITUS ISO ME.

Seriously i already said im doing this to prove it. JUST ONCE.

[Salamence20]

NS: Friday, Nat, and myself are also his post and we are not connected in that hood.

Not a slip

P-edit1: TITUS I WOULD NOT TELL YOU THAT IM A VANILIAIZER AS SCUM. I told you that im not using it again. Shut up. Im not scum.

P-Edit2: NS, you saying two people in your three person neighborhood are scum?

P-Edit3: TITUS I ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY I WAS USING IT D1. ENOUGH.

[Salamence20]

TITUS SINCE YOU ARE BLIND AF:

I mean, let's say, in the average game, I get wagoned to L-1. I get asked to claim. I claim my role, and suddenly, hammer because my role is bad. That's why I'm doing it now, so if in case I did get wagoned you would know what I am claiming.

[Salamence20]

If you think im going to claim anti-town role for towncred in a game where 5+ players know I do that as scum as scum, you doubt me.

And no Im not panicy. Im pissed because you always pin me for the dumbest shit, and thats why I dont like you. YOU FUCKING CALLED ME SCUM IN DIFFUSION OF POWER BECAUSE OF A TYPO AND BLAMED IT ON SCUMSLIPPING. KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF PLEASE.

I already volunteered to be vigbait or to self before lylo. So there. You can quote this I am a man of my word

[Salamence20]

Yeah, I doubt you. You have seen this strategy work as scum yet you think I am crazy for entertaining a possibility.

If your role is town that means either a) we have an antitown role who should volunteer for your test or b) scum have a breaking strategy.

Disney Villians Mafia
Epicmafiatime

Ive done it in both games.

DO YOU REALLY THINK I WOULD AS SCUM CLAIM ANTITOWN ROLE WHEN PPL IN THOSE TWO GAMES ARE PRESENT!?

I already told you I am anti-town PR. My choice is locked btw.

[Salamence20]

NS, compromise on Vi wagon?

[Salamence20]

Im fucking done with you titus.

Vote me if you want. Idgaf.

[Salamence20]

Actually you have a cool PR.

Vote me. Im curious

[Salamence20]

NS. We are not playing the hood game because there is more than one hood.

We play here. On the thread.

Im saying it again, Im not voting burner.

Vi: With all due respect, what does this have to do with anything?

[Salamence20]

Hes not a townread. I just dont see the fakeness.
Yes. Im in a hood.

[Salamence20]

Hey reinoe how do you feel about losing your post restriction tomorrow?

[Salamence20]

Oh yeah, 4

[Salamence20]

We are not lynching on hoods

P-Edit: OH NO I HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER OF PPL IN MY HOOD THAN NS. OH NOES I HAVE AN ANTITOWN ABILITY. OH NOOOOO I AM SOOO SCUM GG BYEBYE.

P-Edit2: Mega Salamence ftw

[Salamence20]

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE.

NS CONFIRM BURNER IS IN YOUR HOOD

[Salamence20]

VOTE: 4Burner

When he flips scum I self tomorrow

[Salamence20]

VOTE: 4runner

Again

[Salamence20]

4burner. Lol

[Salamence20]

OFF WITH REINOE'S HEAD!

Titus, you are shit. Honest

[Salamence20]

First of all, I am done with Titus because it is obvious she is ignoring me because she has asked people questions THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY ANSWERED IN THREAD

Secondly, I believe all neighborhoods are not day-talk. Mine isn't.

Thirdly, 4burner is in my neighborhood, so either NS is reaching or 4burner slipped.

How can Vi be "fluffy" and a strong voice that others will readily sheep? I can't help but think that those two things would be contradictory. If Vi were to push for your lynch based on your claim, what, if anything, would that tell you about her alignment?

Play with Vi more.

Mainly I think its like an IC in a newbie game.

So you suspect Reinoe is post-restricted Scum and Salamence is just putting on a show of curing his buddy

In this scenario, I don't know why I have to do it during the day. That's mainly sacrificing a scum to give a scum the ability to talk. Let's say he was a pr-strongman, he is now a mafia goon. Is that really worth it if we both were scum.

In fairness, I've seen you do crazy shit as both Town and Scum, so "Salamence doing something crazy" isn't necessarily alignment-indicative to me.

I'm trying to trademark "Sala's gambit" What do you think?

Also, Salamence, got a question about your role. You said it won't go into effect until tomorrow, right? Do you know whether the change will happen before or after the Night phase?

Reinoe will get a PM tonight.

[Salamence20]

Salamence, I'm impressed with your ability to provide the voice of reason ITT.

You guys can lynch me now. I'm content with my life in this game now.

Anyways, let's talk a little. In the only two games I played with you (with you as town), you have been more pre-emptive in the beginning then more fluffy in the middle. That's my worry, you are fluffy, yes, but maybe a little too much in this game.

So here is some questions:

1. Do you think Aronis is scummy based on not voting me for my claim?
2. How do you feel about Titus?
3. When 4 flips scum, scum is aware of your neighborhood. NS or Reinoe?

[Salamence20]

Oh yeah, I forgot.

Vi, don't judge NS based on my interaction with him. From what I know and can say, he is playing like he usually does

[Salamence20]

First of all, I am done with Titus because it is obvious she is ignoring me because she has asked people questions THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY ANSWERED IN THREAD

B) Looked through and saw no evidence of that.

OFF WITH REINOE'S HEAD!

Where did Sal say he had to activate his power in thread?

[quote"MY FIRST FUCKING POST"]

Dont ask me to claim, because when I use this ability, you will know who I am and see why scum dont have fakeclaims.

[/quote]

[quote"Salamence"]I have to say a certain phrase. [/quote]

[quote"Titus"]I am trying to solve Sal.[/quote]

I am town with a very anti-town day ability that I will use JUST ONCE to prove my claim on NS.

C) Totally free to vanillaize a problem townie

without accountability

.

I should be taken out via vig or before lylo. I won't mind

.

[Salamence20]

Actually, thinking things through, I don't want to talk about this anymore for today.

4burner is near confirmed scum for reasons that aren't important yet, if I am thinking correctly. Plus I want him out of my hood.

I will fill in the members of my hood about this. I don't want to talk about my target today anymore. Thank you

[Salamence20]

4burn's scum lynch means we need to lynch Vi/NS/Reinoe tomorrow

[Salamence20]

NS: I understand now about you guys. One of you is a rat in the hood.

[Salamence20]

Skull, I'm fairly confident there are two scum in 4 and Vi/Reinoe/NS. There may be a possible 2nd scum in my hood, and one that isn't.

[Salamence20]

I'm thinking quickhammer now though, but that's how I always feel.

[Salamence20]

I'm thinking quickhammer now though, but that's how I always feel.

That would be a welcome break from today's meta

I'm an outlier in today's meta

[Salamence20]

1. I claimed masons with a person who 1) isn't in our hood, and 2) jokingly.

2. Nati selfed D1. Now NS and I know that's normal for Nati. How do you?

3. I never cleared anyone, not now, and not at the time.

4. Nothing to say here.

5. Vi was NOT a topic of discussion. I asked as question about her and that was it.

P-edit: You're not outing our hood. Also claim your flavor name

[Salamence20]

Konowa it is better to not answer this until tomorrow, thanks.

Know, there is a connection between our group and theirs. Pretty sure the king is flipping scum if I am a town role.

[Salamence20]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Why are we not lynching the claimed vanilla townie? Is the plan to run up someone else in the hopes of hitting a powerrole, because that sounds like a scum plan?
Can someone Hammer pleez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This post is one strike.

I'm standing by this. Death to the king!

[Salamence20]

NS, please stop fluffing the thread.

May I remind you of a certain other game that is horrible because of you two posting so much,

HINT HINT

[Salamence20]

its coming. Calm down.

[Salamence20]

Unvote: Aronis
Vote: 4burner

(L-7)

So here we have Vi voting 4burner for being fake, I presume. I don't think he caught the slip that NS did.

Thirdly, 4burner is in my neighborhood, so either NS is reaching or 4burner slipped.

I really want to say it's the former. That notwithstanding, my vote remains.

And here, Vi confirms her vote on burner, but leans on NSscum.

Well, the truth of the matter is, I do what I want. Most of the time, what I want involves telling people that they are willfully hopeless at Mafia and/or social interaction. But really this is the same game I've wanted to play for several games now.

I'm Town (like always),

I'm in the kind of game I haven't been in in years (mostly), and I'd like to have my fun and see if I can score.

Anyone that does the bolded at this point makes me think of muffinman. And I fuckin hate muffinman. Also the last few sentences I didn't understand and sound like something I would say as scum.

1) Aronis questioning your claim is <adverb> dumb. I'm willing to take Prof. Fridays' meta on him because generally people who throw those meta defenses out are correct.

What!? Really? Its that easy to persuade you. Meta as a defense? Someone like you shouldn't be easily persuaded by something so malleable as meta.

2) If it were anyone else doing what Titus is doing I would be calling a classic setup speculation scum tactic. That said, this is Titus; if the word that's come to me in my retirement is accurate the best word is "incurable".

hahahahahahahahahahaha, that is funny!

3) You're going to cause me to revoke your "voice of reason" compliment, because this is a terrible question.

Fine then, lets fight. I asked you which one of your neighbors is scum, which YOU YOURSELF claimed was a possibility, right here:

I will confirm that I'm in a Neighborhood with Nobody Special notscience and reinoe, and I sure hope that wasn't necessary to keep silent for whichever reason. I also agree that there's a not-insignificant chance that one of the other two members of the group is scum, hence me asking the question above.

So how on earth is this a horrible question? Why were you trying to tell me that I am horrible at this game?

First, notscience's attempt at a slip offense is far-fetched to start with.

Possibly, but then one has to ask, why were you on Burner's case, and why didn't you unvote sooner?

Second, considering that both me and notscience have come out and said that we're in a Neighborhood, anyone who doesn't know it by now is simply not reading the thread.

But, lets say that mafia QT was open pregame. The scum Alice knows who the other alice's are. Now all the mafia know who the alices are. It's not that farfetched that mafia may know the Neighborhoods beforehand.

With regard to which, if any, of the two others in the 'hood are scum, I don't know. I believe I can figure it out with time.

WRONG. You said pretty much there would be scum in the hood. Also you were willing to follow Reinoe's and NS's lead. So no.

Vote: notscience (L-6)
Blatant sheeping of Malakittens, who has usurped Salamence's place in my heart.

I really, really, really don't like this. You defend a vote against Reinoe, but you will vote NS?

[Salamence20]

There's a lot that I know now that I can't share at this time.

All I know is that I'm going to disable Reinoe's pr. I'm pretty sure Burner is scum based on a hunch, a little bit of gamblers fallacy, and Vi's reaction to the wagon.

There is one scum in Vi/Reinoe/NS

NS is most likely town, even if he is reaching.
Reinoe has a pr, we will know more tomorrow.
Vi is a possibility

Reinoe can you give me a reason for Burner, do you believe he knows about your hood?

[Salamence20]

Reinoe, I'm missing the point about you winning a scum game.

Please inform me.

[Salamence20]

Stop abusing spoilers please.

THANK YOU GOD!

[Salamence20]

I get it. As a person who used the noob card all the time, carry on.

Carry on.

P-Edit: VOTE: Vi

Time for a man...

To kill a god.

[Salamence20]

Only two wagons right now are Vi and 4. That's all I'm going for.

The faster I get to my hood, the better. I can explain everything,

Problem is, there are scum in both hoods

[Salamence20]

I have a tendency to either not engage my scumreads directly, or have it dissolve into an all-out CAPSWAR. I dislike the normal back and forth, as nothing productive comes out of arguing with scum.

Granted, I think all the SDC-type players have moved on, sadly, so no more CAPSWARS for me to get into anymore.

Kat. Where have you been my life

[Salamence20]

Reinoe.

Vi's scumlynch confirms you. Don't sweat.

Also lol

[Salamence20]

I mean Vi's been really awkward this game. I noticed it from the first vote.

But that's okay! Think wishfully!

I wanted to play with Vi too. Doesn't mean I'm going to keep him alive when I read him as scum.

Isn't Vi always awk though?

No. Fluffy.

[Salamence20]

Okay. Maybe I should go reread that game. Because i *could* be confusing them. Fluff-tierce doesn't sound right.

It isn't

[Salamence20]

Aronis wagon now has Titus approval.

For the record, the Titus wagon always has my approval.

Fuck Titus.

Fuck the wagon you're on.

1. Why aren't you voting me or complaining about me?
2. Vote Vi or 4.

[Salamence20]

Aronis wagon now has Titus approval.

For the record, the Titus wagon always has my approval.

Fuck Titus.

Fuck the wagon you're on.

1. Why aren't you voting me or complaining about me?
2. Vote Vi or 4.

Sorry, I was irritated with notsci.

1. Bc my newest theory has you as just being a scum puppet.
2. K. Vi is OK. Burner, not so much.

VOTE: 4burner

I didn't know Titus had an alt who talks to himself.

[Salamence20]

Burner is L-2
Vi is L-4

Decisions decisions

[Salamence20]

Vi, we do not know if mafia do have pregame chat.

Idk a game that hasnt

[Salamence20]

Vi, we do not know if mafia do have pregame chat.

Idk a game that hasnt

My point. Did the heartschat have pregame talk?

Also @Konowa: you should read the posts with halo Altaria because I probably spent too much time making that.

Both neighborhoods were locked pregame.
The mafia chat we do not know. I bet it was because i havent seen a game where they havent. Plus that countdown leans mafia pregame chat

[Salamence20]

Are there games without mafia pregame?

I figured that was normal

[Salamence20]

so Sala...

I just decided to skim Paradox Prime (a really old scum game of mine where both Tierce and Vi were town). I'm not seeing the fluffiness that you are talking about Vi in his town game..

I have a feeling I've played with Vi more than anyone else in this game, and Vi can definitely be very fluffy as town. My most recent experience was reading Vi in the crosssite game on that magic site and Vitown there was definitely fluffy (but really obvtown).

However, I can't remember all my tells from differentiating scummyVitown from scummyViscum. I'm def not getting that TOWNTOWNTOWN feel here though.

As am I, this feels different than the other Vi games I played with

[Salamence20]

I liek wooperz

[Salamence20]

I really need to get an updated reads list soon

[Salamence20]

Mala
Titus
Skull
reinoe
Sala

are all town

Nati
katsuki
Prof Fridays
Aronis
Matt P
Marquis

Leaning town

This doesnt add up why you unvoted 4

[Salamence20]

NS is town because scum wouldnt reach so far with this to get a mislynch.

Vi or 4 lynch plz.

Konowa, for some reason I trust you. Stay on burner, I may go back on.

[Salamence20]

NS can you link to borkgame with slip plz

[Salamence20]

Again, Vi wasnt a topic of discussion.

Unless you played with her and know her meta.

[Salamence20]

Vi, please answer the probablility of scum having pregame chat.

I mean you are a scholar of probability. Not reading comp

[Salamence20]

The link was to ser the slip. But you have to find it first

[Salamence20]

Vi, if you are in a hood. You know it was locked in pregame.

So why would one hood be locked and the other not locked.

Yours was locked
Mine was locked

Im pretty sure 4burner's second hood was unlocked

VOTE: 4Burner

[Salamence20]

But why!?

[Salamence20]

Kats: put burner at L-1 and lets go.

I can worry about MattP tonight/tomorrow

[Salamence20]

Yolohammer plz.

I have a court to run

[Salamence20]

@MOD - Was any chat open pre-game?


Worth a shot. Can't honestly believe I haven't tried to ask this yet either.

UNVOTE: 4

Ill give it a shot

[Salamence20]

Well, it's all I have left, really. And could you imagine if he said no?

Then Vi dies

[Salamence20]

VOTE: 4burner

[Salamence20]

Almost certain he is scum.

@Skull and Friday: I dont disable neighborhoods

[Salamence20]

Cool. Change of heart on 4?

[Salamence20]

Thanks mod.

/sarcasm

Do me a favor.

Hiplop or Konowa?

[Salamence20]

Both?

Probably Hiplop. Konowa just reads as frustrated but bloodthirsty town.

How expierenced are you?

I ask because that sounded like a scum answer for reasons that arent important.

[Salamence20]

Both?

Probably Hiplop. Konowa just reads as frustrated but bloodthirsty town.

How expierenced are you?

I ask because that sounded like a scum answer for reasons that arent important.

What makes you say that?

He wasnt confident giving me a read on those two.

It sounds like scum trying to cast doubt on my judgement of both of them.

I would have expected more rage towards one or something different.

[Salamence20]

(4 should probably still answer that Vi question just because though)

[Salamence20]

Kat I really think hes caught.

He being 4

[Salamence20]

Wrong. You stated both. We both know it cant be both (I mean 90% sure it cant).

The fact that you said that instead of giving me a stated answer makes me think that you're actually caught scum

[Salamence20]

Burn don't do it we will claim it tomorrow

[Salamence20]

L-1?

And I'm not revealing my hood in case there are NO scum in it.

Youre dead. Im sorry if you were town.

I know the feeling

[Salamence20]

If he is scum though Im selfing tomorrow

[Salamence20]

I never die at night. Lol

[Salamence20]

SCUM WTF?
TOWN WTF?

Who speedlynches obvtown?

Hey Reinoe, want to 1v1?

Anyways, One of Rack/Mala/Hiplop dies.
Oh yeah, was Aronis lying about his cop?

[Salamence20]

THIRD ALICE NEEDS TO CLAIM ALSO

[Salamence20]

Im not outing that right now.

One is scum and the other is probably the closest thing to town.

Also show me your thought process on how Im lying about fakeclaims

[Salamence20]

Fine.

But I'm the fucking queen. Idk anyone else who is more evil than I.

[Salamence20]

Plz no speed lynch I want to post something if value later today

Hiplop is scum.

Actually, he's the executioner of clubs, and didn't do shit the last three night. He can die

Fine.

But I'm the fucking queen. Idk anyone else who is more evil than I.

Which queen, there's a lot.

Of hearts?

[Salamence20]

Of hearts?

Why do you say this as though it's so

obvious?

VOTE: salamence

Holy fuck you havent read the thread have you?

VOTE: Rack

[Salamence20]

why the fuck am i a valid lynch target?

oh no i didnt speedlynch notscience

Because like rack, you didnt do shit

[Salamence20]

THIRD ALICE NEEDS TO CLAIM ALSO

Oh yeah before the last Alice reads this, please don't.

So its just a coincedince that two alices died?

[Salamence20]

Alice is claiming. Thats it.

[Salamence20]

Is there a character more evil than the queen?

[Salamence20]

I wouldn't put it past Sal to claim QoH as scum QoH. I've done it before.

You claimed scum QoH?

[Salamence20]

NO ALICE CLAIMS THATS IT SHES CONFIRMED SCUM

[Salamence20]

MALA IS FLUFF IS PISSING ME OFF.

ITS UNLIKE YOU, SO MOST LIKELY SCUM

[Salamence20]

SOMEONE CLAIM ALICE NOW

[Salamence20]

REINOE, ARE YOU ALICE?

[Salamence20]

Hiplop - Executioner of hearts (Claimed VT, am going to test it)
Reinoe - Dormouse (confirmed VT)
Nati - Rolecop
Friday - Doc
Sal - Queen of Hearts
Aronis - Some kind of cop?

OFF WITH HIPLOP'S HEAD

[Salamence20]

Oh cool. That explains a lot.

Probably.

[Salamence20]

Salamence, do you think that Vi received two results?

It means Vi didn't know her sanity, thus the reason she speedlynched.

[Salamence20]

Oh yeah...

Um, my title is italicized like Vi's

Wtf does that mean?

[Salamence20]

NO MASSCLAIM.

WE FIND ALICE

[Salamence20]

With a double voter, two cops, and a vanillaozer, we have powerful scum.

VOTE: Hiplop

[Salamence20]

Not what I am asking.

Do you believe that Vi received results on reinoe -and- notscience? Meaning two different Nights.

Say no more. Please.

Do you think Reinoe is scum?

[Salamence20]

NO MASSCLAIM.

WE FIND ALICE

I'm working on it, but Marquis blcoked me.

Well he's the cat, so he's good

P-Edit: Two Alice's died in two nights without any softing of anysort. Titus claimed something but. I don't see why Skull was killed.

[Salamence20]

Hiplop - Executioner of hearts (Claimed VT, am going to test it)
Reinoe - Dormouse (confirmed VT)
Nati - Rolecop
Friday - Doc
Sal - Queen of Hearts
Aronis - Alice cop
Marquis - Chestsire cat (ascetic)

[Salamence20]

Maybe I should explain:

In my hood, I figured Vi/Reinoe/NS were the Alice's because there were 3 ppl in that hood vs 4 in ours. So when Skull died I figured that the third Alice knew of the other two Alice's because Titus died next.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Reinoe

I disabled a scum pr!

[Salamence20]

Sal, why are you green?

Must be your computer

[Salamence20]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: reinoe

UNVOTE: Reinoe
VOTE: Rack

[Salamence20]

Reinoe and Konowa and Nati and Friday

Rack is going down

[Salamence20]

I am getting really paranoid about Salamence now.

.....

Konowa plz dont be scum.

Plz....

[Salamence20]

Rack and Hiplop arent even participating.

If Reinoe flips scum, Im selfing tomorrow and nillaizing Rack.

[Salamence20]

Because Reinoes self vote and Racks boring hop bugs me

[Salamence20]

lol, figured you were the queen

Fuck fakegod.
Should have been a dayvig.
But noooooooooooooooo. Thats too fun.

[Salamence20]

Scum day-nillaizer is the worst fucking thing fakegod could do.

Good thing its not true

[Salamence20]

The mod is always a player in the game.

Fuck you

[Salamence20]

KATSUKI IS ALICE!

VOTE: Le Cupcake

[Salamence20]

Off with Aronis's head

Youre useless and my jack thinks your scum so this is for him

[Salamence20]

Dayviging after D1?

Fucking scum dayvig

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Konowa?

FAKEGOD YOU MADE ALL THREE ALICES AND BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS ALL-TOWN?

NO FUCK THAT. I DONT BELIEVE IT. I WONT BELIEVE IT.

1v1

[Salamence20]

GIVEN THIS DUMB SETUP I COULD BE SCUM.

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Malakittens

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Salamence

I don't think you're necessarily town at this point. reinoe has (had) a point with the Name Cop, and I doubt that there is compounding negative utility.

VOTE: Salamence

Ill fucking join you.

Id rather not be wifomed later.

WHO REVIEWED THIS SHIT?

[Salamence20]

Fakegod doesnt fuck me the way nati does.

When Nati does it, it makes me feel soooo bad on the inside.
Fakegod makes me think "thats it?"

[Salamence20]

Wait. Lylo tomorrow. We cant lynch me fuck,

VOTE: No Lynch.

[Salamence20]

Wait. Lylo tomorrow. We cant lynch me fuck,

VOTE: No Lynch.

Good. Good. Your journey towards the darkside is now complete.

Doesnt matter.

Konowa, Mala, and Rack will vote me and you will probably hammer regardless of alignment.

GG.

(Btw i think you are town, unless you are a day-cop)

[Salamence20]

Konowa we have a few choices:

1. Vote me and lose if mafia kill.
2. Vote Rack and hope hes not vt
3. Vote Aronis and hope an alice cop isnt a town role.
4. No lynch

[Salamence20]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

Oh hey, Salamence is flopping around, he must be scum!

Anyways, I think there are a few reasons:

1. Alice Cop

With All Three Alice's being town (A Beloved Name Cop, A Treestump Dayvig, and a Doublevoter), its more likely scum have an Alice cop to hunt down the alice's. Also with 4 cops running around (Name, Role, Random, and Alice), its most likely one is a scumrole. (Yes, I don't believe scum are just goons, there have to be some power or just a JOAT running around there). But then again, why would he bother killing Skull D1? I'll get to that in a second. But lets talk about something else, involving this cop role of his:

I AM A COP YOU IDIOTS!

I COPPED FRIDAY AND NATIRASHA AND MY RESULTS WERE NEGATIVE.

What was the point of softing this? No one knew Vi was a cop. He was afraid of being lynched a day later because NS said so. Also, he didn't fully claim, making people think he was giving Nati and Friday innos, leading them to claim,

all while the day didn't end yet.

. He lied to out more power roles, and practically lied. He claimed this at twilight because he knew Vi couldn't CC him and Vi was dead the night anyways.

2. Words of the dead

Skull - Beloved Name cop N1:

Skull died N1, and I really didn't understand why. I didn't find him ubertown at the time he died. (That went to NS). His top scumread? Aronis, who skull found scummy because Aronis was reading me as scum, but wasn't acting upon it. Unlike myself, skull had the power to bring down Aronis for that, so that is a good reason he is dead, because he probably could have led a wagon on Aronis.

(Fuck) Titus - Town Doublevoter N2:

Titus softed some sort of Day Ability, so it wasn't too shocking that she died early, but ultimately why? Titus spent all fucking day whining about me as scum until the end.... where she wanted an Aronis wagon. Hmmmmm, but what if... what if Aronis found out Titus was an Alice? Removing another Alice and possible PR, leaving the last Alice to be WIFOM'd into being scum, such as me and others, the reason why scum didn't kill the third Alice (in this case, they couldn't find the other Alice).

Vi - One odd cop not played by Johnny Depp N3:

Someone saw that copslip I guess. Other than that, I was willing to speedlynch Vi for lynching Obvtown NS. Oh and look who he wanted dead tomorrow. ARONIS! Idk why you would kill Vi. This one confuses me.

Marquis - Kitty Asetic N4:

Nuff Said.

Part 3 Aronis the Story

I have to leave soon, so I am going to sum this up.

1. Found my claim very scummy, but refused to vote me.
2. Figures I'm a scum puppet, which is dumb.
3. Happily votes 4 and says he scumslipped.
4. Speedvotes Vi, probably caught a copslip
5. Panics and claims COP (Not Alice cop, actual legit cop) with innos on Friday and Nati before NS flips.
6. Agrees that last alice is scum, trying to WIFOM others into speedlynching Alice when he finds her, saving a kill.
7. Requests No-Lynch for townpoints.

[Salamence20]

Aronis

Rack
MattP
Mala

Konowa

Nati
Fridays

[Salamence20]

Salamence not picking up on that I JK'ed Vi and didn't question the results makes me want to lynch him.

Ummmm, I wasn't there that day when they decided to speedlynch NS.

Also, It doesn;t matter because we don't know if you were blocked, Vi lied, or Vi was unaware of her sanity.

If this is about yesterday, its because I forgot we JK'ed Vi N2. So sorry.

[Salamence20]

Semantics. Obviously, in context I was referring to investigative results, not death-flips, so I don't see why that matters. Grasping at straws maybe?

Also, reinoe just flipped Dormouse. Are you somehow different? I'm confused. Which "Mouse" are you supposed to be?

Rack thought I was a different queen too.

[Salamence20]

Matt hasnt posted in 3 day phases now. Can we get a mega prod or modkill?

[Salamence20]

Oh wait. He posted last phase. Not D2 or D3.

Nvm

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Aronis

Plz explain.

Thats the only thing you have to say.

Plz die

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Aronis

Plz explain.

Thats the only thing you have to say.

Plz die

Let's go over this.

I sincerely want a No Lynch. Otherwise, I would've moved on by now. I suggested it because it is an idea that is pro-town, not for town cred.

If you're saying I copped Titus and Skull, you're wrong. They were killed before I had a chance to give results.

Katsuki freaked out and bombed some1, before anyone had much of a chance to do anything. I didn't speedlynch her. And on top of that, why should I be blamed when this speedlynch crap already happened to notsci. Quit being oblivious and check out the wagon.

1. And sometimes, scum want to sincerely lynch their scumbuddy because it's pro-town, it's not mutually exclusive. Suggesting no-lynch may be pro-town, but it doesn't make you conftown.

2. I could be wrong about your targets. Then I will say your team got lucky. Meaning I probably AM a scum puppet for thinking Alice is scum.

3. Your first post today was "KAT IS THE THIRD ALICE". You agreed yesterday about third Alice being scum, so you telling me that just because you didn't vote for KAT today means you didn't think she was scum is wrong. You've been testing the waters on MY lynch, you tried to test the waters on KATS lynch.

4. Also everyone on the wagon is blamed for that speedlynch on NS, not just you. But most of them are dead and confirmed town.

[Salamence20]

Im going to selfhammer.

Not buying the ATE.

Also, HIGHLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY that the scumteam is Mala, Rack, Matt.

[Salamence20]

Mala too has been doing this.

[Salamence20]

TOWN SELFDESTRUCTION LOL

[Salamence20]

I TRUSTED YOU ON THE BURNER LYNCH!

In an ordinary game, we probably would have had scum. But fuck me being fooled by a scum JK (!!!)

NS's Paranoia
My Paranoia
Skull being obvtown (lol)
Vi's sanity
Rack and Mala's lack of participation
Aronis's selfhammer

P-Edit: i have no problems with this setup despite what I said in-game. Its odd, but its fucking wonderland? So....

[Salamence20]

Two important things:

1. Reinoe, why the fuck did you fake a post restriction as town?

2. Vi, why did you damn NS like that while blocked? For all the shit you gave me in the dead thread, ID LOVE to hear the reasoning for guiltying someone who was most likely obvtown WHEN YOU HAD AN UNCONFIRMED SANITY.