Mini 1601: B_E's Mind Mafia ABANDIFIED

[T S O]

I don't vote people often. It's just a playstyle thing, really.

[T S O]

Nonetheless, you have a point.

Vote: Csareo

[Elias_the_thief]

Meh.

unvote

.

This vote is pointless right now.

Hey mod, can we get a Vote count please?

Haven't seen one since 191.

[Aegor]

Aegor, why do you think it is playstyle?

He...he

explained

exactly how it was his playstyle and his approach to Day 1.

@Aegor: It seems to me that his playstyle is involved only insofar as he uses VC's to influence his tells more often than other players might. The choice to not share that information seems to me to be a decision made independent of his style. I have never seen a town benefit from less information, have you?

I think ti is not a matter of arbitrarily restricting information and more holding back until the information can be used productively. Does a Cop claim Day 1? Does a Cop claim after an inno, or wait and hope to get a guilty before an NK? etc.



VOTE: Kid A

[beastcharizard]

Hi TSO. How long has it been?

VOTE: Csareo

This is the lynch I really want.

[Burning_Earth]

VC goes here. Also if you ask for one it will be futile because there will still be one every 24 hours no exceptions (except this late one )

Oh NO WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME! I CHANGED MY AVATAR TO GODDAMN BRAD PITT!!! MUST RESIST URGE TO POST SESRIOUSLY IN N'S GTKAS!!!!

Csareo (4): Riddleton, Hephaestus, beastcharizard, TSO
Kid A (2): dybeck, Aegor
Hephaestus (2): NicCage,
T S O (1): PMysterious
Aegor (1): Albert B. Rampage
Riddleton (3): Kid A, Csareo, Ythill
Not voting (1): Elias_the_Thief

7 to lynch

[Elias_the_thief]

Things seem to be moving quite slowly. If the game doesn't pick up soon I say we just go for the Csareo lynch.

@Aegor:

Any particular reason for the Kid A vote? Just trying to stir him out of his inactivity?

[beastcharizard]

I say we just go for it anyway.

[Aegor]

@Aegor: Any particular reason for the Kid A vote? Just trying to stir him out of his inactivity?

He voted Riddelton and promised a full case. As far as I am concerned, he is voteparking.


Also, I just now found out by clicking the wrong icon that you can ISO multiple people at the same time.

[Ythill]

unvote, vote Csareo

L-2

Okay, the game state has changed. I'd still rather not engage in full disclosure but I will, since the curiosity has been linked to questions about my alignment.

Riddle was one of Csareo's suspects and the target of his vote. He has also been mentioned as suspicious by a few people who strongly suspect Csareo. Having concurrent wagons on the two of them creates a voting dilemma that could be information rich. For example, if either flips scum, we could look for Csareo moving his vote off as the pressure builds or, if Csareo flips scum, we could look for people who said they suspected him more, but rode the Riddle wagon all the way to claim. Etc.

I just now found out by clicking the wrong icon that you can ISO multiple people at the same time.

Were you isoing Kid? Why?

[Elias_the_thief]

Riddle was one of Csareo's suspects and the target of his vote. He has also been mentioned as suspicious by a few people who strongly suspect Csareo. Having concurrent wagons on the two of them creates a voting dilemma that could be information rich. For example, if either flips scum, we could look for Csareo moving his vote off as the pressure builds or, if Csareo flips scum, we could look for people who said they suspected him more, but rode the Riddle wagon all the way to claim. Etc.

Eh. Pretty much what I expected to hear, though I feel like such an observation is pretty common knowledge among experienced players. What confused me was the lack of transparency. Still doesn't quite make sense to me, because announcing it and watching changes in tack would've been equally useful (at least imo).

I'm down with a Csareo lynch today. Will refrain from voting until he has surfaced, see if he has any last words before L-1.

[beastcharizard]

Elias, you seem like one of those people who lies about everything.

If there is a third scum you are it in my mind now.

[Riddleton]

3 scum members would be standard among 13 players. I would expect there to be 3 scum.

[Riddleton]

Csareo + Ythill (maybe) + someone else.

[T S O]

Elias, you seem like one of those people who lies about everything.

If there is a third scum you are it in my mind now.

I don't get where this came from.

Csareo + Ythill (maybe) + someone else.

Do you really think Csareo and Ythill are partners?

And Ythill is performing some kind of strange convoluted bus where he pretends to withhold information he doesn't have, draws flak for it, then just gives up on it?

I don't agree with this assumption at all.

[T S O]

Csareo has literally been raining scumtells but I'm not sure one person has stuck up in his defense once.

Do scum really do this? I can;t imagine this kind of hardbussing being off-the-cuff. If they do, and Csareo flips scum, then I'm going to be looking at the people who drove this wagon from the start.

[T S O]

I don't know why but I'm feeling really paranoid right now.

[T S O]

I don't want anyone putting this thing to L-1 and a potential selfhammer until I question a few people.

[Riddleton]

Csareo + Ythill (maybe) + someone else.

Do you really think Csareo and Ythill are partners?

And Ythill is performing some kind of strange convoluted bus where he pretends to withhold information he doesn't have, draws flak for it, then just gives up on it?

I don't agree with this assumption at all.

I think Csareo and Ythill could be partners, yes. I have a hard time seeing some of his posts from a townie perspective. I'll write up more of a case on him later if you want, but I would still prefer the Csareo lynch today.

[Riddleton]

Do scum really do this? I can;t imagine this kind of hardbussing being off-the-cuff. If they do, and Csareo flips scum, then I'm going to be looking at the people who drove this wagon from the start.

The main reason I'm behind this is because he's just obviously scum. Scum found, in my opinion. The lack of replies from him solidifies that. I want to get him lynched today as he is our main lead. I think anyone can agree with me there.

Do you think I am suspicious for wanting to lynch Csareo?

[beastcharizard]

Elias, you seem like one of those people who lies about everything.

If there is a third scum you are it in my mind now.

I don't get where this came from.

Csareo + Ythill (maybe) + someone else.

Do you really think Csareo and Ythill are partners?

And Ythill is performing some kind of strange convoluted bus where he pretends to withhold information he doesn't have, draws flak for it, then just gives up on it?

I don't agree with this assumption at all.

They way the make their posts or the way I read them gives me horrible gut feelings. It doesn't seem genuine at all to me.

[Riddleton]

To whom are you referring to there,

Beast

. I find it a little ambigious.

[beastcharizard]

TSO. I thought it was obvious since in that post they addressed me. I was just to lazy to take out the other part of the quote.

[Ythill]

I thought you were referring to Elias.

The "three active scum" theory is possible but weak. I'd wager at least one is a lurker.

I don't want anyone putting this thing to L-1 and a potential selfhammer until I question a few people.

Claim-land is anti-town too, until we are ready to lynch.

Scum found, in my opinion. The lack of replies from him solidifies that. I want to get him lynched today as he is our main lead. I think anyone can agree with me there.

He's certainly on the list but I'm keeping an open mind. I'd like to hear from our lower activity players and replacements before we end the day, and I'd like to see serious wagons too, to create info and hopefully shake out some slips with pressure. There are still scum under the radar here.

[Riddleton]

The "three active scum" theory is possible but weak. I'd wager at least one is a lurker.

I agree that one is perhaps a lurker. I highly doubt that two of them are lurking.