No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
In post 650, Clusk92 wrote:Just for the simple fact that two town counter wagons formed when a wagon built on N_M suggests to me odds are that he has to be scum, right?
This is the exact argument I made before Shadow was lynched, and you questioned me on it. Why do you agree with me now, but didn't then? Yes, that was before Shadow was confirmed town, but the fact was still that this was the second counter-wagon away from N_M.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
Wagon Momentum: How much resistance that exists on a wagon is something I like to look out for. It's important to take the pace of the individual game into consideration, but I look at how quickly a wagon forms to see what's going on with it. A fast wagon is likely to be on town, especially if there is no counterwagon. A wagon that repeatedly dissolves without explanation is likely on scum - perhaps a partner is helping to keep it from going through. This is something that I generally just keep in mind, and not something to base an entire case on. (mastin2)
Counterwagons: This one is mostly hit, sometimes miss. I've played a little over 50 games on this site, and in all of those, I've only ever seen two competing wagons both being town once, but I have heard of others who've witnessed it. Most other times, one of them is on scum, especially at the end of the day when the players are divided between them. Once you get a flip, this is a great resource to use in conjunction with "around the wagon" and VC analysis. (mastin2)
I actually find both of these to be untrue. On Day 1 especially, the people getting wagoned are generally the "easy targets" independent of alignment. Day 1 counterwagons in particular are not more likely to be on scum if I'm not mistaken. Wagons that dissolve repeatedly (or consistently don't go anywhere) are more a reflection of the tunneling players pushing them than the alignment of the wagoned player.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
Just the way Clusk comes in with a list of 3 people he'd lynch and Mala's reaction not being one of them was to point the finger at you with a false equivalency. I also liked their MYLO behaviour the least, Clusk for talking about top townreads and Mala saying she wanted discussion in the day but not really trying to get any discussion going or seeming to have any specific in mind.
I really just want the claim this point, all whoever is withholding it is doing is stalling the game
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
In post 650, Clusk92 wrote:Just for the simple fact that two town counter wagons formed when a wagon built on N_M suggests to me odds are that he has to be scum, right?
And if Clusk really believed this he wouldn't have started the day by saying he'd lynch any one of 3 people
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
I'm not ready for a vote yet, and I can't rule out a Mala/Bins team at this point, Victor and TSO were pushing each other pretty hard but in the end it was TSO who derailed the Victor wagon and Mala started townreading Bins pretty quickly once she subbed in
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
Maybe this will help with the case. I was withholding claiming to see if I could draw out a claim from scum, but that obviously didn't happen. I am 1-shot BP, so I must have been targeted night 1. My two scum suspects day 1 were you and Clusk. I had a town-read on Victor, so he wouldn't have had any reason to kill me. I think Clusk tried to kill me. I also think his partner is Mala.
Also I would have been a great kill, because you were actually my top scum-read and I only said Clusk was "possibly scum", so killing me wouldn't have drawn much suspicion onto him, but he would be able to eliminate the person pushing the possibility that he was scum.
No matter who scum is I suspect they'd have a reason to kill you due to the fact you were universally townread by everyone, so that doesn't rule Bins out.
In post 673, Clusk92 wrote:No matter who scum is I suspect they'd have a reason to kill you due to the fact you were universally townread by everyone, so that doesn't rule Bins out.
Except that I voted for Victor and then unvoted and turned him into a town-read. Why would you kill someone that publicly changed their opinion of you from scum to definite town? You wouldn't.
