NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[Aeronaut]

To lynch anyone who claims pr.

He changed his mind because the time was not right.

Why would you lynch everyone who claims a PR?

[Alina]

I don't get that either. Your logic makes no sense to me. If he wanted to pull a trick(or whatever...I'm having trouble getting this), then he would pull it anyways, right? It's not like he can pull it out of his ass later.

[OkaPoka]

My point is that gameplay can pull a gambit with his "secret" info. He can say this pr claim is crap cuz we are all vt or something. If it is bannable and wake knows he wouldn't be playing.

[Alina]

He would then be busted about him lying for it being bannable and then we'd lynch him for lying about shit like that. Why would he do that.

[Aeronaut]

My point is that gameplay can pull a gambit with his "secret" info. He can say this pr claim is crap cuz we are all vt or something. If it is bannable and wake knows he wouldn't be playing.

If he thinks the game is mountainous and says so, why the hell would he pull a PR gambit?

[OkaPoka]

Plus it would've been pregame and replacements would be a simple find.

I don't know why but the facts don't add up. Maybe he could be secret sk and lie that there is no sk. I don't know but he can pull something off late game.

I don't know what he would do. That was an example.

[Alina]

...There's no way any of us could know there's an SK unless we had like an FBI Agent. I mean, your logic makes no sense whatsoever to me. I'm trying to see it but I'm just seeing trippy colors. Do you think anyone else is scummy besides him? For less weird reasons preferably?

[Alina]

Or if there was 2 nks or something but I think that would be as a result of two factions like Wake had up in the initial ruleset...3 would prove it. If there's 3 mafia factions I would stab myself.

[OkaPoka]

Sk is very common, I said these are an example of what could happen. Obviously he would not pull that off now but he had the chance if people ignored it.

[Alina]

You ignored my question.

Also, if he later decided the info he previously claimed was bannable wasn't, what do you think would happen?

[OkaPoka]

I think tree is leaning scum, and maybe psyche. I've tslked about tree and psyche is weird. If you noticed before my accusation he didnt say it was bannable.

[Alina]

Why are you leaning scum on them?

@Gameplay

Why did you not claim that info was bannable beforehand?

[OkaPoka]

Tree did dumb fakelclaims and psyche is defending tree badly.

[tn5421]

I think majiffy's push on tree is fabricated. It makes sense for an RVS-ending vote, but somehow we've made it to page twenty and he still acts relatively confident that tree's pretty bland couple of fakeclaim ploys make him scum. It would be okay if he were just egging it on for tactical reasons, but I just have no doubt reading his posts that he'd be happy if tree died right now.

At this point, I think he continues to tunnel on tree just because 1) it's easier to act through than it is to look soberly at what he's doing and what could be done, and 2) tree is really easy to push and is the sort of player likely to dig his own grave. And I'm asking his sheep about the wagon so I can see if anyone else is following suit, or if the

actual

scum carrying out this really cliched approach to D1 is one of those. It seems pretty likely to me that the tree wagon is just too shitty not to be astroturfed.

I know I'm fooling around a lot, but it's because I can, because it's harmless. But I didn't join the game for the captive audience.

Quite frankly tree dug his own grave by trying to gambit twice, ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY his IC claim.

I disagree with you on your current majiffy read, weren't you following the flowchart and sheeping majiffy 10 pages ago anyway?
I've got him as relatively neutral, slightly leaning town.

[Aeronaut]

I think majiffy's push on tree is fabricated. It makes sense for an RVS-ending vote, but somehow we've made it to page twenty and he still acts relatively confident that tree's pretty bland couple of fakeclaim ploys make him scum. It would be okay if he were just egging it on for tactical reasons, but I just have no doubt reading his posts that he'd be happy if tree died right now.

At this point, I think he continues to tunnel on tree just because 1) it's easier to act through than it is to look soberly at what he's doing and what could be done, and 2) tree is really easy to push and is the sort of player likely to dig his own grave. And I'm asking his sheep about the wagon so I can see if anyone else is following suit, or if the

actual

scum carrying out this really cliched approach to D1 is one of those. It seems pretty likely to me that the tree wagon is just too shitty not to be astroturfed.

I know I'm fooling around a lot, but it's because I can, because it's harmless. But I didn't join the game for the captive audience.

Quite frankly tree dug his own grave by trying to gambit twice, ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY his IC claim.

I disagree with you on your current majiffy read, weren't you following the flowchart and sheeping majiffy 10 pages ago anyway?
I've got him as relatively neutral, slightly leaning town.

What was his second gambit? The IC one seems like a joke to me.

I don't like how Oka has to be asked to give explanations for his reads. Saying "Psych is weird" is not an explanation. It's like you have opinions, but you're afraid to share them until you absolutely have to. Making it look like you have scumreads, without giving weight to them so that nobody can suspect you. Not to mention, you're saying we should kill people who claim PRs.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is an SK.

VOTE: OkaPoka

[tn5421]

The second one was him posting kill: majiffy in thread.

[tn5421]

I summarized what I don't like about tree in 461

[OkaPoka]

Damnit. Of course you think I am scum. Can you read that I said gameplay might want to kill prs?

Why would I want to lynch a pr when I believe that there are prs in this game.

[Aeronaut]

I summarized what I don't like about tree in 461

Yea. I forgot about the kill: Majiffy thing. I don't really see a scum motivation behind it though.

[Aeronaut]

Damnit. Of course you think I am scum. Can you read that I said gameplay might want to kill prs?

Why would I want to lynch a pr when I believe that there are prs in this game.

I thought you had said you wanted to lynch them, but you were talking about Gameplay, I say.

So your saying he's trying to out PRs so he can kill them?

[Aeronaut]

I say = I see

[OkaPoka]

It is a possibility but was just an example.

[Majiffy]

Town

alina(pos scum iff multball)
T S O
Notscience
Gameplay
Okapoka
Elyse


Scum

AERONAUT
Tn5421
tree
Psyche



What im sitting on right now. I may be missing folk.

[Majiffy]

Also why is half the playerlist non-presence?

[notscience]

Why am I not higher up