NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[OkaPoka]

top. and I'm still pretty pissed at you gameplay. I think I prefer a tree lynch then.

[Wake1]

VC will be up later tonight. Work emergency.

[texcat]

So yeah

he's town

moving on

I get that Gameplay's theory on a mountainous game makes it look like he is vanilla town. And I've never played with him before, but isn't it worth considering that he's scum who made this whole thing up to look like vanilla town?

[reinoe]

Why are people being given town cred for speculating on the setup?

There are few things that waste more time than set-up spec on day 1.

Wait until d3 or some scum flips.

[tn5421]

Def not a great post but other tn podts merit z scumread more than that.

Treevote plox.

His other 4 posts following that were Tree is scum because he gambitted twice. Which, given 240, make them null, and almost confirms Tree as town.

Your reasons are wrong. Already proved so.

My reasons for thinking Tree is town if tn5421 is scum?

No, he has the same weak reason you do, but he tried to support it by quoting the posts where tree gambitted, then repeating it.

Fooling around is fine.

Fakeclaiming and pretending to be a dayvig AND an innocent child in the same day is not ok.
This is a matter of policy to me, and I don't care if I have to become your top scumread as long as I get them (tree and reinoe, the heavy gambit users) lynched first.

I dont need to replace out simply because I dont know anything more. Also I am not bluffing simply because Wake asked me not to talk about what I know. And to add to it my thoughts were kinda proved wrong. Wake gave me peemission to quote this:

Expert level quote there.

[Aegor]

Have not read anything; forgot this game started. Will read today/tomorrow.

[tn5421]

On one hand: WTF Aegor?
On the other: Appreciate the honesty and the fact that you're back now.

[Josh_B]

Not speculating on set up. Tree's gambit's necessitate that he is either lynched or investigated. Being that lynched is not specifically preferred, I suggest that he be investigated.
His gambits from a town mindset prove that he is Vanilla. His gambits show that he can neither DayVig, nor be mod confirmed. I can think of at least one inherently scum role that would encourage a player to act in a way that would cause them to be investigated, Can you?

[reinoe]

Not speculating on set up. Tree's gambit's necessitate that he is either lynched or investigated. Being that lynched is not specifically preferred, I suggest that he be investigated.
His gambits from a town mindset prove that he is Vanilla. His gambits show that he can neither DayVig, nor be mod confirmed. I can think of at least one inherently scum role that would encourage a player to act in a way that would cause them to be investigated, Can you?

That would be an interesting tactic by a godfather to be investigated. Fortunately tree is inherently scummy so we can determine his alignment by lynching him.

Phone post

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: tree

follow reinoe since he is making sense

[tn5421]

On one hand, I'm glad we're all on the tree wagon, but following reinoe to do so?

What has this world come to? :3

[farside22]

I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to catch up this game. Weekend is looking to be busy, but I will put this game as priority when I can read.
If by Monday I can't make it work I may have to replace out.

I'll do my best.

[OkaPoka]

tree has taken reinoes role and reinoe has become a genius

[farside22]

Tree is being reinoe. Anyways tree is leaning scummy.to me. I would still like elsye and Josh to go at it.

Why is tree scummy? Why do you want elyse and josh to go at it?

[Aegor]

On one hand: WTF Aegor?
On the other: Appreciate the honesty and the fact that you're back now.

I was on a retreat and had very limited access. Also, 26 pages in 3-4 days is outrageous. Anyway, expect something tomorrow.

[tn5421]

On one hand: WTF Aegor?
On the other: Appreciate the honesty and the fact that you're back now.

I was on a retreat and had very limited access. Also, 26 pages in 3-4 days is outrageous. Anyway, expect something tomorrow.

No worries, we're not really close to lynching anyone right now.

[farside22]

So yeah

he's town

moving on

I get that Gameplay's theory on a mountainous game makes it look like he is vanilla town. And I've never played with him before, but isn't it worth considering that he's scum who made this whole thing up to look like vanilla town?

Wtf?

All that has gone in and you want to play wifom.

Vote; texcat

[farside22]

I have been reading along, but haven't understood half of what is going on. Tree made a couple of quickly disproven fake claims that I can't see the purpose for. And I can't see the motivation for it from either a scum or a town. Although I will say that it seemed to generate quite a bit of conversation.

The recent interactions between Aero and Elyse have convinced me to
VOTE: Aeronaut

I also wanted to point this out as lackluster reasoning with no involvement of why aero is scummy.

Tree/texcat scum?

[Titus]

Booo. This is The Light.

Catching up now. The Light was an alt of mine. It served its purpose.

[Mirhawk]

Who won the elyse v royal thing?

And the EVERYONE v Reinoe thing?

Well, Elyse and Royal are still yelling at eachother, so...I wasn't aware it ended, lol. And Everyone VS Reinoe was more of a joke. Evidently an unfunny one. So what do you think about Elyse VS Royal?

Because you're fucking scummier than Reinoe.

Congratulations.

VOTE: Tree

As much as I don't care for his weirdness, what makes you think he's scummy?

Why aren't you answering my question towards you?

Well, he did answer your question. In a kind of evasive way, but he did answer it. My experience with him says that he prefers to townhunt and then find the scum by PoE.

Alina - You stopped asking questions, which for you is surprising. Have any current scumreads?

What do you mean by this? I asked a few questions last time I was on, although they weren't directed at anyone in particular; the Reinoe meta one was the one I was most looking forward to an answer, but I'm assuming due to the lack of me getting one he's never been a nutto in a scum game before. I'll metadive him myself when I'm less lazy and check. Wrt scumreads, I don't really care much for Okapoka running around tossing rocks at everyone for whatever reason he can find. Tree and psyche are a mix of annoying and funny, but not necessarily scummy. What about you?

Psyche, you literally don't make sense ever.

I'd be down with a tree lynch, but I'm not feeling good about Oka. The aggressiveness rubs me wrong, and it sort of feels like he's trying way to hard to make it look like he's scumhunting.

THANK YOU. This is similar to something I heard about in another game. "Buzzword scumhunting" Basically a thing new-scum use to make themselves look useful by tossing around crappy buzzwords. He keeps tossing stuff around like "lol omgus" when shit like that doesn't mean anything. You have to look at the CONTEXT and he's not doing that. He's just running round accusing people for whatever reason he can find.

Also question to either aero or renioe (since you two I remember from the last normal) does anything feel off about Alina to you?

This is apparently my new thing. >< My first two games it was "Alina is obvtown." Now it's "There's something odd about Alina and no one has any idea what!" It's kind of annoying.

I think she's a bit more confident this round. Not sure if that's anything. I feel like she's sort of hard to read, because she literally always seems town to me. She's null for me at the moment.

Wait, so am I always seeming town to you or am I null? This confuses me. I also see later you did something similar to this later that Elyse called you out on...a lot. :/ And then you have alright posts later that make this seem less bad. Still weird.

Tree is being reinoe. Anyways tree is leaning scummy.to me. I would still like elsye and Josh to go at it.

Why is tree leaning scummy to you?

More buzzwords?

~

Texcat seems newtown to me.

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Though If you make a case for why Majiffy's scum I am interested. Personally I dislike his interactions with Gameplay.

What do you dislike about his gameplay interactions? I apparently skimmed right by them because I have no idea what you're talking about.

Oook just woke up and read those sweet 6 pages you left me with.
So right now idk what to think of tree. Majify on the other side is a slight townread. Yes his case wasn't that good, but I feel like he did it just out of town motivation amd just doesn't feel fabricated to me.
Elyse vs Aero just made me like Elyse more. She had a point in all of her posts there. Aero really had some weak points but the things Elyse pointed out on Aero aren't really scum indicative. They are mostly some contradictions that can come out of newb/confused town as well.
I like Mir too. His latest posts are nice.
Oka I dont like. I agree with Aero that his push just seems like he is trying too hard and trying to get on on whatever he can. Also his push on me ends as suddenly as it started and I dont like this too.

VOTE: Oka

I like this whole post. I agree with...well... all of it.

nice omgus you got there.

LOOK! MORE BUZZWORDS! You should turn this into an Olympic sport.

Yeah, as you probably were able to tell as you were reading this, I am ending this post with a...

VOTE: OkaPoka

Your "scumhunting" seems like a farce.

To lynch anyone who claims pr.

He changed his mind because the time was not right.

Mirhawk, would you place your vote on tree? It would be just super.

gaaaaaah titus

[Mirhawk]

shit balls.

I was going to do things with those quotes.

[Mirhawk]

This is your fault titus.

[Titus]

VOTE: tree

follow reinoe since he is making sense

This is dangerous. I make more sense as scum than I do as town, usually. Then again, scum are usually the ones acting confused by what I say soooo

[Titus]

This is your fault titus.

ZOMG! Superscum here. Blaming me for things when I wasn't here.

[/melodrama]

[notscience]

So yeah

he's town

moving on

I get that Gameplay's theory on a mountainous game makes it look like he is vanilla town. And I've never played with him before, but isn't it worth considering that he's scum who made this whole thing up to look like vanilla town?

Wtf?

All that has gone in and you want to play wifom.

Vote; texcat

What the hell is this post