NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)


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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:31 pm

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I'm ok with TSO too.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:31 pm

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gameplay, why is aero not scum in your opinion?
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:32 pm

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I don't see the whole huge scum motivation he is being voted for. Just seeing being dumb and posting dumb things.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:38 pm

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Okay.

Here are MY reasons behind it-

His early interaction with tree about how people would take an IC seriously. It looks like he's trying to put up a charade of being all business and seriousness and "alrighty guys lets get down to work" and it doesn't read genuine.

Look at his vote on tree. He voted essentially because Tree is anti-town. Note- he still thinks tree is town, just doesn't want him alive. It's not for reasons like my push where I need the people on the tree wagon to help my wagon so I join, it's just because he's anti-town.

Look at his scumread on me. Why is he scumreading me initially? For my sheeping. When I reacted, he then has to stretch and bullshit his way around my reaction. When he makes a claim about me, I ask him to give me quotes and concise points. I get nothing. When asked for reasonings behind him, I give them and then get accused of "avoiding answering questions." How is that a town response? What town- who is adamant that someone his scum and isn't voting them- would not be able to provide reasonings behind a claim he makes, a claim that apparently encompasses the entire thread?

Look at his REACTION to the push on me. First I'm scum, then look at his softclaim TO ME. His scumread. Does town softclaim like that to a scumread? No.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:40 pm

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In post 1243, notscience wrote:He's made several claims against me, and when asked to back them up has provided nothing.

Really? I think that was the other Aeronaut.

So the reason you're voting me is because I'm voting you?


In actuality, my reasoning for voting Notscience was because he was sheeping anything he could. However, he's obviously stopped doing that, so ehh, I guess he's not really in my lynch pool anymore.

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P-edit: Oh, hey there
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:42 pm

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In post 1253, notscience wrote:

Look at his REACTION to the push on me. First I'm scum, then look at his softclaim TO ME. His scumread. Does town softclaim like that to a scumread? No.

I don't know if you've noticed, but there are twenty other people in this game that aren't you. I wasn't saying anything directly to you so only you could see, because everyone can see it.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:43 pm

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In post 1152, Aeronaut wrote:You really don't want to lynch me, Notscience.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:44 pm

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In post 1256, notscience wrote:
In post 1152, Aeronaut wrote:You really don't want to lynch me, Notscience.

Once again, everyone can see it. Don't know what your trying to get at.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:45 pm

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In post 1253, notscience wrote:Okay.

Here are MY reasons behind it-

His early interaction with tree about how people would take an IC seriously. It looks like he's trying to put up a charade of being all business and seriousness and "alrighty guys lets get down to work" and it doesn't read genuine.
Well trying to look serious and helpful isn't indicative as far as I know.


Look at his vote on tree. He voted essentially because Tree is anti-town. Note- he still thinks tree is town, just doesn't want him alive. It's not for reasons like my push where I need the people on the tree wagon to help my wagon so I join, it's just because he's anti-town.
His vote on tree was purely policy. And if you are going after him due to pursuing a policy lynch, you should then go after several other players
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Look at his scumread on me. Why is he scumreading me initially? For my sheeping. When I reacted, he then has to stretch and bullshit his way around my reaction.
Missed that one.

When he makes a claim about me, I ask him to give me quotes and concise points. I get nothing.
He said he is giving up and the way he did so really seemed town to me.

When asked for reasonings behind him, I give them and then get accused of "avoiding answering questions." How is that a town response?
I don't agree. Ye it is anti-town but definately not a scumtell.

What town- who is adamant that someone his scum and isn't voting them- would not be able to provide reasonings behind a claim he makes, a claim that apparently encompasses the entire thread?

Look at his REACTION to the push on me. First I'm scum, then look at his softclaim TO ME. His scumread. Does town softclaim like that to a scumread? No.


I didn't understand the second to last point and I didn't read anything about the last point. Cant comment on them
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:46 pm

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your attitude isn't great, gamey. just no? how about...

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"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:48 pm

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to translate: you still haven't brought up one potentially reasonable argument about a) me-scum or b) aero-town.

also I'm fairly sure I made 1-2 posts about probability, so ...yeah. It's not my whole ISO. yay reading.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:48 pm

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Another useless post.

VOTE: TSO

Shadow hasnt posted for 2 days. I prefer pushing the active one then.
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:48 pm

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You targetted ME specifically.

Everyone can see it, yes.

But you were talking to me specifically.

So, you're trying to abate the scumread pushing you by softclaiming to them?

In what world does that make sense from any alignment but scum?

pedit-

Gameplay, TRYING TO LOOK. Which alignment has to TRY TO LOOK

I'm going after him based on the poor vote on tree. There were other people on for a PL, but they have other motives (ie mirhawk to make jiffy shutup)

Yep.

It's AtE. It's supposed to.

Fair enough.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:49 pm

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In post 1253, notscience wrote:town. Note-
he still thinks tree is town, just doesn't want him alive.


What alignment do you think Tree is?
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:50 pm

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Town.

I've said it all game.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:52 pm

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In post 1104, T S O wrote:
Vote: Aeronaut

Places a naked vote


The only thing he says about Aero before voting him:


In post 1103, T S O wrote:Tree is town, and everyone on the tree wagon who thinks he's scum is scum, and you're voting tree for policy, despite not voting reinoe for policy.

You hypocrite.


And not to mention 5 other people want policies.

The back-up case:


In post 1105, T S O wrote:That jump on tree was awful.

In post 1112, T S O wrote:But can't we lynch Aeronaut today and tree tomorrow?

Because I give a 30% estimate of tree being scum, but Aeronaut is around double that.

In post 1120, T S O wrote:Psyche is voting Aeronaut.

Probability of tree scum - DOWN.
Probability of Aeronaut scum - UP.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:53 pm

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In post 1264, notscience wrote:Town.

I've said it all game.


So you've thought tree was town all game, but you were voting for him anyway. That's what your saying?
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:54 pm

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Yep.

Unlike you, I had another reasoning behind the vote.

but of course, you're going to try and twist this to make me look back so yep!
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:54 pm

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In post 1266, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 1264, notscience wrote:Town.

I've said it all game.


So you've thought tree was town all game, but you were voting for him anyway. That's what your saying?

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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:55 pm

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Gameplay.

Which alignment has to try to look like something.
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:56 pm

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In post 1267, notscience wrote:Yep.

Unlike you, I had another reasoning behind the vote.

but of course, you're going to try and twist this to make me look back so yep!

Your reasoning is that you needed Majiffy's
single vote
to help you vote Titus tomorrow. How does that make any sense? Why do you
have
to vote with Majiffy?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:57 pm

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sighh
both alignments have to try to look like something
You can't step in the same river twice.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:57 pm

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Actually both can try to look serious.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:57 pm

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Nope.

My reasoning is I need his vote and voice and the people on the wagon to help lynch titus tomorrow.

pedit-

Why does town have to try to look like anything?
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:58 pm

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In post 1265, gameplay506 wrote:
In post 1104, T S O wrote:
Vote: Aeronaut

Places a naked vote


The only thing he says about Aero before voting him:


In post 1103, T S O wrote:Tree is town, and everyone on the tree wagon who thinks he's scum is scum, and you're voting tree for policy, despite not voting reinoe for policy.

You hypocrite.


And not to mention 5 other people want policies.

The back-up case:


In post 1105, T S O wrote:That jump on tree was awful.

In post 1112, T S O wrote:But can't we lynch Aeronaut today and tree tomorrow?

Because I give a 30% estimate of tree being scum, but Aeronaut is around double that.

In post 1120, T S O wrote:Psyche is voting Aeronaut.

Probability of tree scum - DOWN.
Probability of Aeronaut scum - UP.


Oh and not to mention the TSO vote was opportunistic as hell.

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