Mini 1591: PFs Flavorless Normal (Game Over)

[SleepyKrew]

I can't find a result crumb.
I want to lynch pops in his face.

[farside22]

Bah!

[Squirrel Girl]

Yeah, I was actually almost hoping for an early IAI push from Farside to explain the craziness.
I'd say it's pretty safe to assume that the result was 'went nowhere' or something akin. Maybe a roleblock I suppose :shrug:.

Eh, sure;

Vote: Pops

[Squirrel Girl]

Though I just broke my word to IAI.
Sowwee!

[SleepyKrew]

If you think farside was roleblocked, you should be calling RC scum.
But I doubt she would have hidden being blocked, for that same reason.

[Squirrel Girl]

I suppose that makes sense. My main thrust was that there wasn't likely a 'tracked someone to someone else' result in her hand.

[Goofyd00d]

VOTE: pops
Should have been done yesterday.

[Dessew]

Goofy, are you scum? If not, unvote.

[SleepyKrew]

Goofy, are you scum? If not, unvote.

Please explain why you made this post.

[SleepyKrew]

DESSEW

[Dessew]

SLEEPYKREW

Sadly, the answer is no or none, depending on what the question is. OTOH, I have skimmed farside's D1 posting, I thought maybe she breadcrumbed whom she was gonna track, but I didn't find anything (at one instance she called Konowa Konowa instead of Konawa, though. Fun fact: there's a town named Konawa in the US. I don't think it's any good, though.) All I can think of is the setup now, but naturally it doesn't lead us anywhere. Also, it'd be so much easier if scum jst acted scummy and town acted townish...

[SleepyKrew]

There was no reason you made that post? No reason you called out Goofy but not Squirrely?

[SleepyKrew]

Like, why should he unvote. What's the big deal?

[Dessew]

It might be MyLo. Pops is on L-3. Goofy was around, I didn't check wether Squirrel was.

[SleepyKrew]

MYLO assumes three scum. Saying Goofy needs to unvote or is scum doesn't make sense there, because scum can still quickhammer without him, assuming Squirrely is town.

[SleepyKrew]

Also, if you don't want a lynch right away, I'd assume you either want to NL or to lynch after discussion, right? But you're not discussing or pushing an NL.

[Dessew]

Check the numbers, it takes 5 to lynch.
You're right, I'm not discussing nor pushing a NL atm. Your logic is falsch, though, there are like two weeks left. Only half the playerlist has posted today. Letting a quicklynch happen wouldn't be nice.

[SleepyKrew]

it takes 5 to lynch.

Right yes well in that case I'm wrong.
What should the people that haven't posted yet be posting?

[RedCoyote]

Damn. Sorry, farside. I really screwed this one up. That teaches this game to listen to me as town.

I protected Dessew last night, of course. I figured he would've been the kill for sure.

I also looked over farside's posting and the only thing that seems to stick out to me is that I think she probably tracked a Konowa innocent on N1. I agree with Dessew. Nothing else really makes sense given that she was not a fan of Konowa and then she backed off of him during D2.

I'm happy to vote pops today, but I need to hear more from Goofy. I agree with Dessew, his post today is unsatisfactory.

[PokerFace]

Day 3 Vote Count

popsofctown (2) - Squirrel Girl, Goofyd00d

Not voting (6) - Dessew, Cyberbob, popsofctown, RedCoyote, SleepyKrew, SingerSinger

With 8 alive its 5 to lynch

Day 3 Deadline Countdown

(expired on 2014-09-09 11:00:00)

[Cyberbob]

I also don't like those fast votes. I think it's probable that pops is scum but there are 2 other scum in this game that we need to find at some point (let's be real here, it's a 3 man scum team). This would have been an incredibly easy game to coast through as scum with so much town on town crossfire. I'll be doing a proper reread but my current gut instincts are pointing towards singer and either SK or Goofy.

Having said that, I don't know if we should completely rule out Konowa/Beck/Squirrel Girl based on farside's info. I could be wrong but doesn't a Tracker return a non-result if they target scum that aren't the ones that submitted the NK?

[SleepyKrew]

Yeah, that would just get "didn't go anywhere".
Why do you suspect singer? I thought that read was dependent on IAI being scum?

[Cyberbob]

She's been coasting real hard from the moment she replaced CoolDoG, who did strike me as fairly pro-town but his wagon did weirdly stall at like L-1 or something before Drew ended up getting lynched if I recall.

[Dessew]

Damn. Sorry, farside. I really screwed this one up. That teaches this game to listen to me as town.

I protected Dessew last night, of course. I figured he would've been the kill for sure.

I also looked over farside's posting and the only thing that seems to stick out to me is that I think she probably tracked a Konowa innocent on N1. I agree with Dessew. Nothing else really makes sense given that she was not a fan of Konowa and then she backed off of him during D2.

I'm happy to vote pops today, but I need to hear more from Goofy. I agree with Dessew, his post today is unsatisfactory.

I didn't actually mean that Konowa part seriously... Damn, I should just stick posting things that are strictly game-related, it's not the first time I screwed up in this game. Anyway, what RC says certainly makes sense.

All I have now is that I managed to make up my mind about something I've been thinking lately (so no actualy new stuff, at least from my point of view.) Based on this, I think Bob has just townslipped:

I think it's probable that pops is scum but there are 2 other scum in this game that we need to find at some point (let's be real here, it's a 3 man scum team).

Because I hardly doubt it is a three-man team. Let's see, I wouldn't attempt to use my own sense of balance, as I haven't proven to have any, but let's look at the setup, what we know.
There are 12 players. Two neighbours, one bodyguard (I believe RC's claim), one vigilante and one tracker, which is just a nerfed cop, actually, and there's a roleblocker on the other side. Now, if you drop the neighbours, but make the tracker a cop and the whole setup open (instead of closed), you make the town much stronger. Notice how there's already a protective, an informative and a killing role on town's side and a blocking role on scum's side.

[SleepyKrew]

I don't think that's a townslip. I'm really not sure whether to expect 2 or 3 scum. If it is 3, I'm going to have words with the reviewers though.