micro 372: game over

[mykonian]

votecount

AngryPidgeon (2): TellTaleHeart, Marquis
TellTaleHeart (2): AngryPidgeon, Flubbernugget

not voting (3): kabooooom, xayzeck, caledfwitch

[kabooooom]

pops in occasionally to make non-alignment indicative comment, often just an obvious statement/fact
no self-investing analysis of any sort
purposefully detached scum

Uhhhh. That makes him a lurker. That doesn't make him scum. Not saying I have a strong townread on him or anything cause I don't, but this is silly.

but why cant pokemon pressure him?

what have you done to make him post more?

and why does pokemon's scum hunting criteria has to be like yours?

[AngryPidgeon]

I didn't say that he couldn't, I said that his assertion that he is scum is bad.
Nothing? And you?
Because Im good at the game

[TellTaleHeart]

Even before this latest twist in AP's story, there was a lot that didn't add up about his claim. And this new claim complicates things even further. Why did he claim miller in the first place? I'm assuming that it's the convention to claim miller so that the cop doesn't investigate the miller and report a false positive the next day. This obviously wasn't what was motivating AP here, so the only thing we're left with is that AP didn't want to be investigated. The other problem is with the amount of information AP seems to have. A little bit of hedging notwithstanding, he absolutely insists that there is a "mafia" faction in post 224, but that doesn't fit with

either

claim. Mykonian himself tells us that the game is "normal". I looked on the normal wiki page and it appears that a Back-up even without a corresponding faction or main role is normal, as is Miller. So how does he have this extra information that there's a Mafia faction?

And I haven't even touched the topic of AP's chronic contrarian-ism. Let's get to the root of the matter because I can't get there by myself. kaboom and caledwitch, why is AP town?

I could real claim if that would progress things.

I'm a deputy (backup cop).

then why did you claim miller?!
you could have kept quiet.

and why are you claiming at l-2?

I think a better question to you kaboom is: "Why are you so seemingly convinced that AP's claim is true?"

[AngryPidgeon]

Why did he claim miller in the first place?

So the cop didn't waste an investigation on me.
So I could coast into late game and get investigates off if the cop ever died and likely not get NKd.
For the lolz.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP didn't want to be investigated.

Correct.

he absolutely insists that there is a "mafia" faction in post 224, but that doesn't fit with either claim.

Yes? Of course I thought there was a mafia faction. I was rather stunned by the werewolf flip and then immediately started talking about how I thought the game was 2 scum factions or just had a notable amount of red herrings in it. There is no contradiction there.

how does he have this extra information that there's a Mafia faction?

Because if there is no mafia faction, my role is pointless and a red herring? Pointless roles *generally* don't exist, doubly so in Normal games.

"Why are you so seemingly convinced that AP's claim is true?"

Because I'm really obviously town this game?

[TellTaleHeart]

Because if there is no mafia faction, my role is pointless and a red herring? Pointless roles *generally* don't exist, doubly so in Normal games.

Alright. Unless caledwitch or Marquis or anyone else who's been on this site a while has anything different to say about this, I'll take your word for it.

Account for your read on Marquis, please.

[Flubbernugget]

This also accounts for the 5:2:2 possibility and that the pr's are heavily stacked.

Marquis is TTH still town?

[AngryPidgeon]

This also accounts for the 5:2:2 possibility

I strongly hope that isn't the case. That would be a horrifying setup.

[Flubbernugget]

I don't think it is, but that's all I'm saying. From your perspective, it adds up.

[kabooooom]

Tth- I will answer your questions once in done talking to ap.

[kabooooom]

This also accounts for the 5:2:2 possibility

I strongly hope that isn't the case. That would be a horrifying setup.

tell me what do you think is most probably the case? And if it not that, what is your second openion? Also state reasons for why you think that setup will be balanced.

[Marquis]

5:2:2 is ridiculous. It's 6:2:1 or 7:1:1 or 7:2.

I've been reading TTH as town since the start, but thinking about it now I haven't really taken a good look at them again since the start. It's a stale townread for my sanity.

On the other hand I'm less sure of my Flubber townread, but it's nowhere near the point where I'm willing to take another look at him.

kaboom solid townread, stays that way.

caled and xayzeck being more into the game would really help me see if either of them are town. come on guys make us both happy

Not sure what to think of the AP "realclaim". The vote stays though.

[kabooooom]

I didn't say that he couldn't, I said that his assertion that he is scum is bad.

but its not like we were going to lynch him right away. Why are you defending someone(even though he is your town read) when he is bot at the risk of getting lynched?

Nothing? And you?

nothing. But unlike you I wasnt defending him/wasnt opposing someone who was trying to get him talk. You on the other hand were indirectly promoting, supporting and giving him confidence to let him play his way.

Because Im good at the game

plz! Dont be an asshole.

also ap,

you are neither at l-1 not near the dead line. So why did you claim? Your claim will make you a tagt. For mafia. If you really claimed miller so cop doesnt wasted his investigation on you and in case he dies scums doesnt kill you, so why throw your plans for waste? And even when you are not at risk of getting lynched?

[kabooooom]

mod: dont you think you are being a little bit(little bit only) lazy?

how about attaching deadline counter(or whatever it is called) with your VC's?

[AngryPidgeon]

I could vote Kabooom Today.

[AngryPidgeon]

Not sure what to think of the AP "realclaim". The vote stays though.

Dont tell me you drew too many scum cards and forgot how to play town.

[Marquis]

that might be true

[caledfwitch]

ap is looking more scum by the minute

kaboom who the hell is "pokemon"

[caledfwitch]

like i know i took a lot of creative liberties in that one farmers market game but seriously

[AngryPidgeon]

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I only ever trollclaim when I am town and have a PR I think will make me obvtown and I just dont care.

[AngryPidgeon]

kaboom who the hell is "pokemon"

Dont think too hard about it.

[AngryPidgeon]

Because if there is no mafia faction, my role is pointless and a red herring? Pointless roles *generally* don't exist, doubly so in Normal games.

Alright. Unless caledwitch or Marquis or anyone else who's been on this site a while has anything different to say about this, I'll take your word for it.

Account for your read on Marquis, please.

Eh, I'll get around to making a reads list shortly. I dont actually know how I feel about Marquis. My scumread at day start was a kneejerk that happened because of sketchy setup spec.

[kabooooom]

I could vote Kabooom Today.

you are standing on a very thin rope. Answers like this are only making your rope more thin.


p-edit: marquis is pokemon. Havent you seen that pokemon before?

2nd p-edit: lol caled, you remember that game?

3rd p-edit: is this your final answer ap?

[AngryPidgeon]

tell me what do you think is most probably the case? And if it not that, what is your second openion? Also state reasons for why you think that setup will be balanced.

No.

I'm not going to go diving into setup spec, that was a mistake and I don't think setup spec is a useful idea right now.