Micro 382 - CREDIMVS PAVONI DEORVM (Game Over!)

[The Bulge]

Votecount 1.7

BlueBloodedToffee (0) -

Asher Kendrell (1) -

Wolfy

Josh_B (0) -

Mr_Ree (0) -

Scripten (1) -

Josh_B

ShadedMelee (1) -

vettrock

TierShift (1) -

Mr_Ree

vettrock (0) -

Wolfy (4) -

BlueBloodedToffee, TierShift, Scripten, Asher Kendrell

(L-1)

Not Voting -

ShadedMelee

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2014-09-06 14:41:00) (September 6).

Mod Note -

I am at camp for the week and am limited to posting in the evenings and afternoons. Sorry for any inconvenience/overdue votecounts.

Prodding ShadedMelee.

[Josh_B]

I just looked in my refrigerator for Ketchup, and I didn't have any. So, I was sad. Then I wondered if Asher felt the same way in this game.

No Catsup Asher? are you just going to jump in here and put someone at L-1 like it's OK? What's your stance on Wolfy?

[Asher Kendrell]

I am actually out of ketchup. I'm not actually sad, I'm feeling pretty good. Yes I am. I think Wolfy is quick to call others scummy, but incredibly defensive on his own.

[Mr_Ree]

Wolfy is at L-1 folks. I'm claiming the hammer, I'm just not done with him yet.

what's your read on Asher, Vettrock and shaded?

Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?

Did you stop to think

why

I did that? I'd suggest watching the insults. I'm probably the most impartial player in this game and currently the only one keeping you alive.

You have your chance. I can hammer at any time so when you get asked a question, I'd suggest answering.

Consider yourself my bitch.

As for those three, Vettrock's post #43, #51 and #137 were town. The unnecessary mention of no lynch in 119, while normally something to watch for, was more of an afterthought.
ShadedMelee is null and Asher I have already talked about. That was a horrible RVS vote and if you were to flip town right now, I would be all over him as soon as day started.

Now isn't the time for my reads though, you should give yours.

[Wolfy]

Did you stop to think

why

I did that? I'd suggest watching the insults. I'm probably the most impartial player in this game and currently the only one keeping you alive.

• because you're scum or not very clever town?
  
• town wouldn't want to quicklynch another townie.
  
• You've had my claim.
  
• You've had my reads.
  
• Just do it.
  
• Learn from it.
  
• Next time use the 14 real time days.
  
• Scum like short days - they kill at night.
  
• town like long days - they learn stuff during the day.
  
• At least 3 people haven't said enough yet to have provided any information.

You want another insult? If you're town you're dumb for a quickhammer when there's 9 days left to learn stuff and three people who haven't contributed.

Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much. You're not that good.

[Scripten]

Anyone who goes for a quickhammer is setting themselves up to be lynched atm. Scum shouldn't do it because they don't want lynched. Townies shouldn't do it because it can drive a mislynch.

Wolfy, you're acting like you've already been lynched. Keep a cool head and try to help us if you're town. The more you get angry, deflect, or otherwise avoid giving the town clear information, the scummier you look and the more likely it is that a townie will end up hammering you. It's also possible that both goons are already on the wagon, but I doubt it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Look at Wolfy's ISO. It's ridiculous.

Anybody who accuses him of being scum is automatically OMGUS'ed and he accuses them of being scum.

So far he has OMGUS'ed me, FoS Scripten (calling us the scum-team), OMGUS'ed Asher and now thinks Mr. Ree is scum or not very clever townie.

You know there are only two scum in this game, right Wolfy? The only person who has avoided your wrath is Tier.

[Wolfy]

You know there are only two scum in this game, right Wolfy? The only person who has avoided your wrath is Tier.

an you're already

certain

you've found them!

You're still not answering questions...
What next when I flip town?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You know there are only two scum in this game, right Wolfy? The only person who has avoided your wrath is Tier.

an you're already

certain

you've found them!

You're still not answering questions...
What next when I flip town?

You're not flipping town. On the off-chance that you do, you should work on your town play. It's pretty bad.

Funny how you think I am still scum-reading Scripten. You're not keeping up very well are you?

[Wolfy]

Wolfy, you're acting like you've already been lynched. Keep a cool head and try to help us if you're town. The more you get angry, deflect, or otherwise avoid giving the town clear information, the scummier you look and the more likely it is that a townie will end up hammering you. It's also possible that both goons are already on the wagon, but I doubt it.

Nobody should withdraw their vote after a VT claim if they genuinely believe I'm scum - so I am effectively lynched.
I'm not angry - I'm amused. There are several so-called experienced players playing like newbies.
I've played enough games on this site to have been lynched several times - it doesn't bother me if town wins.
The only difference this time is that I suspect the way people are playing that town won't win.

How can anybody justify quicklynching when three people haven't contributed?
Will you do the same again tomorrow?

[Scripten]

You know there are only two scum in this game, right Wolfy? The only person who has avoided your wrath is Tier.

an you're already

certain

you've found them!

You're still not answering questions...
What next when I flip town?

You're not flipping town. On the off-chance that you do, you should work on your town play. It's pretty bad.

Whoa, now. That's not cool. You're deflecting a legitimate question.

Hypothetically, if he does flip town, where would you go on day 2 for first suspicions? Hell, why not give us both situations: IE scum and town Wolfy?

[Wolfy]

You're not flipping town. On the off-chance that you do, you should work on your town play. It's pretty bad.

How did I know that would happen...

Guess what, me flipping town actually means

You are crap at this game.

To be as categoric as you are - it is

impossible

for

anybody

to accurately read my alignment from the words I have

chosen

to use

The biggest problem you have is that you don't recognise your own limitations.

Why do people who know the least know it the loudest?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You know there are only two scum in this game, right Wolfy? The only person who has avoided your wrath is Tier.

an you're already

certain

you've found them!

You're still not answering questions...
What next when I flip town?

You're not flipping town. On the off-chance that you do, you should work on your town play. It's pretty bad.

Whoa, now. That's not cool. You're deflecting a legitimate question.

Hypothetically, if he does flip town, where would you go on day 2 for first suspicions? Hell, why not give us both situations: IE scum and town Wolfy?

Jesus Christ. I don't believe you're this bad at mafia. Like, I just don't.

Think about it. Think about the question and what my response could be. Think who that might help, think who gets to use that information over N1...Jesus Christ.

PEdit - Wolfy, stop insulting me. I don't know why you're making this personal.

[Scripten]

Think about it. Think about the question and what my response could be. Think who that might help, think who gets to use that information over N1...Jesus Christ.

How in the hell would explaining your top potential scum reads help the scumteam? What, so they can eliminate the players that look towniest to

exclusively you

? You're really overestimating your power over this game if you think that.

[Mr_Ree]

Did you stop to think

why

I did that? I'd suggest watching the insults. I'm probably the most impartial player in this game and currently the only one keeping you alive.

• because you're scum or not very clever town?
  
• town wouldn't want to quicklynch another townie.
  
• You've had my claim.
  
• You've had my reads.
  
• Just do it.
  
• Learn from it.
  
• Next time use the 14 real time days.
  
• Scum like short days - they kill at night.
  
• town like long days - they learn stuff during the day.
  
• At least 3 people haven't said enough yet to have provided any information.

You want another insult? If you're town you're dumb for a quickhammer when there's 9 days left to learn stuff and three people who haven't contributed.

Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much. You're not that good.

Lol. You're the one getting lynched. Now go player by player and give me your reads and the reasons for your reads or I'm going to hammer you. Bitch.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

How in the hell would explaining your top potential scum reads help the scumteam? What, so they can eliminate the players that look towniest to

exclusively you

? You're really overestimating your power over this game if you think that.

I'm not saying it's a bad question specifcally because its aimed at me. I'm saying it is a bad question full stop.

[Scripten]

How in the hell would explaining your top potential scum reads help the scumteam? What, so they can eliminate the players that look towniest to

exclusively you

? You're really overestimating your power over this game if you think that.

I'm not saying it's a bad question specifcally because its aimed at me. I'm saying it is a bad question full stop.

Asking everyone for their full reads isn't good, but top one or two scum picks is a different story. Rather than just saying "it's bad because I say so," would you please explain how it is bad for you to give one or two reads?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Asking everyone for their full reads isn't good, but top one or two scum picks is a different story. Rather than just saying "it's bad because I say so," would you please explain how it is bad for you to give one or two reads?

If you can tell me what the advantages of doing that would be; sure, why not.

[Scripten]

Asking everyone for their full reads isn't good, but top one or two scum picks is a different story. Rather than just saying "it's bad because I say so," would you please explain how it is bad for you to give one or two reads?

If you can tell me what the advantages of doing that would be; sure, why not.

It allows us corroborate our own reads if you happened to notice something the rest of us missed. Likewise, it helps to alleviate the inherent advantage scum have over town. They already know who is scum and who is town, so scum reads give information exclusively to town. The scumteam really doesn't care who we think is scum. In fact, keeping scummy town players around can be useful to them. And process of elimination is only so useful.

Why do you think the opposite?

[Josh_B]

scripten, I think you are hunting for reads because you want to know who to NK. I don't think reads are good right now, and I'd like you to have to shoot in the dark.
This isn't my normal stance, I'll admit, but the question you are asking BBT right now seems like the same question you asked Vettrok. Since scum have to fabricate their reads, we're about one second from going into NP, and we still have players MIA.

At this point it probably won't do anyone any good to give reads until after the flip.

[Scripten]

scripten, I think you are hunting for reads because you want to know who to NK. I don't think reads are good right now, and I'd like you to have to shoot in the dark.
This isn't my normal stance, I'll admit, but the question you are asking BBT right now seems like the same question you asked Vettrok. Since scum have to fabricate their reads, we're about one second from going into NP, and we still have players MIA.

At this point it probably won't do anyone any good to give reads until after the flip.

You do realize that Wolfy asked that question, not me, right? Also, I've explained why it's good for town to have players share scum reads before a flip. Do you have a counter argument as to why it's bad or are you just disagreeing for the sake of it?

[Scripten]

EBWOP

counter argument as to why it's bad

*counter argument explaining why it's bad

[TierShift]

I am actually out of ketchup. I'm not actually sad, I'm feeling pretty good. Yes I am. I think Wolfy is quick to call others scummy, but incredibly defensive on his own.

Sheep sheep sheep sheep sheep

If only I didn't like my current wolfy vote this much...

What are your other (scum) reads?

scripten, I think you are hunting for reads because you want to know who to NK. I don't think reads are good right now, and I'd like you to have to shoot in the dark.
This isn't my normal stance, I'll admit, but the question you are asking BBT right now seems like the same question you asked Vettrok. Since scum have to fabricate their reads, we're about one second from going into NP, and we still have players MIA.

At this point it probably won't do anyone any good to give reads until after the flip.

I simply disagree that scripten is scummy for poking for reads. As we're not yet having a lynch, I don't see the harm in letting people who are perceived scummy to out their reads.

[Scripten]

I simply disagree that scripten is scummy for poking for reads. As we're not yet having a lynch, I don't see the harm in letting people who are perceived scummy to out their reads.

Just to be clear, it was BBT who has been asked to give his scum reads, whom I do not believe is being scumread atm. I don't think anyone has a problem with Wolfy giving his reads before a lynch.

[TierShift]

Nor with Asher giving reads, I presume.