Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[fferyllt]

VC 2.7

Now Garm howls loud
before Gnipahellir,
The fetters will burst,
and the wolf run free;
Much do I know,
and more can see
Of the fate of the gods,
the mighty in fight.

Brothers shall fight
and fell each other,
And sisters' sons
shall kinship stain;
Hard is it on earth,
with mighty whoredom;
Axe-time, sword-time,
shields are sundered,
Wind-time, wolf-time,
ere the world falls;
Nor ever shall men
each other spare.

Josh_B

(3): d3x, Konowa, LynxKuroneko

geraintm

(2): Osseus pseudotripodis, Thor665

Burning_Earth

(2): Ansuz, Kthxbye

LynxKuroneko

(2): Josh_B, TunnelMates

Ansuz

(1): Burning_Earth

Osseus pseudotripodis

(1): geraintm

Konowa

(1): Mantisdreamz

Not Voting

(0):

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: September 3, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-02 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Konowa]

Konowa, Lynx comes off scummy to me. He is saying one thing and doing another. I think anyone can see that. But, rather than look at Lynx's play, you are basing your read on him off of the people that are reading him scummy. In 211, your failure to take a solid stance on Lynx comes off as defensive. Rather than taking what Lynx has said in comparison to what Gameplay has said, you continue to paint gameplay as disingenuous scum. Even though I'm speaking about 211 in the game, your solid stance on this goes all the way back to 43 when you say that lynx is going to be hard to read.
I think this is tunneling and defensive.

I definitely think Lynx is scummy, and I feel like Lynx flipping scum is the only thing that is going to prove I'm town at this point. So he gets my vote this DP, you and BurningEarth are close seconds.

First, post #43 was when LynxKuroneko was posting fluff and Konowa didn't know if it was going to be a playstyle thing or a posting restriction. If Josh_B is going to post things, context is needed.

Second, Josh_B is acting like no one has ever figured out town by a scummy attack. A is likely to be town because of B's shitty attack. This happens -all- the time. So what Konowa wants to know is why instead of addressing Konowa's points on why Konowa thought gameplay506 was scum, Josh_B is going straight to whatever it is Josh_B is doing.

Third, why would LynxKuroneko's scum flip make Josh_B conftown?

[Konowa]

Konowa would like Mantisdreamz thoughts on Josh_B.

[Thor665]

Konowa does not think that Konowa has ever played with Mantisdreamz before? Why is this relevant?

Because I would not say that bad logic = scum Mantis basically.

I voted Gera for reasons openly stated when I voted him - what about the reasons confuses you? Let me know and I'll clarify.

Also, my slot can't really be that scummy if I don't have a wagon on me, so there is that.

Because it looked like to me you were basing the vote from something on Day 1 than something more recent, so I deduced you hadn't read the entire thread yet.

Also I'm slow and two heads and sometimes I like things repeated when I ask them.

So...basically "no reason at all" then?

I like this one. Spicy! The main reason I ask about your thoughts on gameplay506's arguments was because of his claim, "Lynx vs. Osseus is not town vs town". Considering Osseus was scum-read by a lynched town, and myself (due to D1 observations) and has had FoS pointed at him several times, maybe, just maybe gameplay506 was right about something. But the fact that you're not interested in that theory of his at least means you'll actually commit to being useful.

Also, what does post restriction have to do with anything?

Do you think the game fluff suggests much chance of a post restriction in it?

well he claimed 1-shot vig. at least he can be tested.

So...your answer is "none" as far as reasons to think he's town then?

Thor665, is this what Thor665 means possibly by your earlier question?

Sure.

BE vote is pretty straightforward: the

only wagon that he's shown any resistance or dislike towards is Lynx's for some unexplainable reason

, he hasn't put any thought into any of his actions and is generally happy contradicting previous positions for little or no reason (and somehow coincidentally sees scumminess in the flavor of the day whenever the wagon builds up, but not a moment beforehand and not a moment after).

Sheep.
If you need to be talked through the vote, let me know because my horoscope says I'm feeling extra helpful today so I'm more than willing to hold your hand through this the entire way.

Explain why the bold is scummy and I'd love it.

@Burning_Earth

- could you explain your thoughts about the bolded line above also?

Thor: Votes claimed PR.

Sees that he claimed PR.

Does not unvote claimed PR.

B_E
Makes this post.
Doesn't vote Thor.
Making Thor figure it's kinda mud slingy *and* pointless all at once.

Fairly sure I am voting for ozzy

Why do you think he's scum?

[Burning_Earth]

"@Burning_Earth - could you explain your thoughts about the bolded line above also?"- Ok. I expressed opposition to the LK wagon because LK is going to flip town in my opinion. Bam.

RE 979: I can accuse someone of doing something scummy without voting them. I can also accuse someone of doing something stupid without accusing them of being scummy.

[Burning_Earth]

"I feel like Lynx flipping scum is the only thing that is going to prove I'm town at this point"

This.
Is so scummy.

[Kthxbye]

If I can dodge a prod, I can dodge a ball.

[Ansuz]

Funny how Ansuz gets heat for lots of his content. I'm compelled to vote him. Time to read D2 again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

[LynxKuroneko]

That's just... gross

[geraintm]

@ Thor

I went through in 713 why I was voting for ozzy.
I see no reason not to still be voting for him.
I have Ansuz as also scummy.

[Josh_B]

First, post #43 was when LynxKuroneko was posting fluff and Konowa didn't know if it was going to be a playstyle thing or a posting restriction. If Josh_B is going to post things, context is needed.

Second, Josh_B is acting like no one has ever figured out town by a scummy attack. A is likely to be town because of B's shitty attack. This happens -all- the time. So what Konowa wants to know is why instead of addressing Konowa's points on why Konowa thought gameplay506 was scum, Josh_B is going straight to whatever it is Josh_B is doing.

Third, why would LynxKuroneko's scum flip make Josh_B conftown?

I will admit that my predecessors vote was empty, but it didn't have any scum intentions (I got a role PM that says it didn't). I'm glad to see that you at least admit that Lynx was posting fluff. We can both agree on that. Maybe we can also agree that it's fair to vote for people posting fluff. It's not about Gameplay, it's about your read on lynx. It seems like you were intentionally ignoring his actions.

Let's talk about the Lynch. At one point, you said,

hiplop can eat a bullet, to be frank.

but then later

Konowa feels that this is par for the course for a town hiplop though.

, but

distinction between hiplop and HighShroomish equals a big fat zero

So which was it Konawa? Did you think hiplop was town, or did you think he was scum?

I don't know about conftown, I was tired when wrote that.

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

This is a public service announcement from your friends at OP Entertainment.

Prod Dodge.

Thus ends the public service announcement.

[TunnelMates]

To dodge a prod

[Ansuz]

Osseus, I find it awfully strange how you are attempting to lead the lynch mob against me, yet another innocent, after you already led it against hiplop instead of looking at scummier players such as Ansuz and HighShroomish.

It's crap like this which needs to be lynched.

"I'm just going to vaguely cast suspicion over you because you voted a dead townie and now you're voting me and you led the lynch of the dead townie but not HS or me but WAIT I voted on the dead townie's wagon shuddup also yeah you should have been looking at me but also I just said I'm suspicious of you for voting me before "

VOTE: Ansuz

no there i was pretending to be lynx =(

you're voting me for a post i made while i was pretending to be lynx
additionally, you're voting me for that post about 200 posts too late
right after i voted you.
it's almost like... you're finding reasons to try to vote me and failing horribly? correct me if i'm wrong!

[Ansuz]

I definitely think Lynx is scummy, and I feel like Lynx flipping scum is the only thing that is going to prove I'm town at this point. So he gets my vote this DP, you and BurningEarth are close seconds.

there's no way in hell lynx or konowa is ever getting lynched, so i'd recommend skipping through whatever process you planned on going through and voting burning earth now.

[Ansuz]

Explain why the bold is scummy and I'd love it.

i find it artificial, like he decided to white knight exactly one townie and jump on the lynch of everyone else. i don't find it natural because if he was a "devil may care" type of player, it makes no sense for him to suddenly and instantly such a powerfully strong townread. if he was the type of player who got those type of reads normally, it makes no sense for him to not attempt to explain it/not form anything close to that read in an additional 40 or however many extra pages of content.

[Ansuz]

That's just... gross

now you know how i felt when i read your post

[TunnelMates]

taylor swift is a goddess

oops

[TunnelMates]

Spoiler: NOTSCIENCE PLZ READ

[d3x]

A load of people just prod dodging through the end of the Day. I'm fine switching over and Lynching BE now.

Vote:BE

[Mantisdreamz]

^off the top of my head, i think BE looks fine. i tried catching up from my (shitty) phone last night and saw his posts and liked.
konowa - i will get to you on josh_b.
maybe there was a misunderstanding with us, all based on not understanding each other properly.
you thought i was insinuating that you and gp were scum.. where, that was never the case for me.

UNVOTE: konowa

will post after work

[Ansuz]

i don't want off the top of your head, i want you to bring him in focus for once

[Burning_Earth]

Josh B saying "I don't know why I said that, I was tired" is scummy. Saying that he wanted a lynch because it would make him look town is scummy. I'm just gonna vote him now, because ansuz doesn't seem to be getting any votes

VOTE: Josh B.

[Konowa]

Konowa asks d3x to join Burning_Earth wagon, d3x graciously denies.
Konowa joins the Josh_B wagon, d3x votes Burning_Earth.

[Konowa]

First, post #43 was when LynxKuroneko was posting fluff and Konowa didn't know if it was going to be a playstyle thing or a posting restriction. If Josh_B is going to post things, context is needed.

Second, Josh_B is acting like no one has ever figured out town by a scummy attack. A is likely to be town because of B's shitty attack. This happens -all- the time. So what Konowa wants to know is why instead of addressing Konowa's points on why Konowa thought gameplay506 was scum, Josh_B is going straight to whatever it is Josh_B is doing.

Third, why would LynxKuroneko's scum flip make Josh_B conftown?

I will admit that my predecessors vote was empty, but it didn't have any scum intentions (I got a role PM that says it didn't). I'm glad to see that you at least admit that Lynx was posting fluff. We can both agree on that. Maybe we can also agree that it's fair to vote for people posting fluff. It's not about Gameplay, it's about your read on lynx. It seems like you were intentionally ignoring his actions.

Let's talk about the Lynch. At one point, you said,

hiplop can eat a bullet, to be frank.

but then later

Konowa feels that this is par for the course for a town hiplop though.

, but

distinction between hiplop and HighShroomish equals a big fat zero

So which was it Konawa? Did you think hiplop was town, or did you think he was scum?

I don't know about conftown, I was tired when wrote that.

This post is enough for Konowa to park Konowa's vote for the day.