Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[Mantisdreamz]

@ Mantis - I switched between pronouns accidentally. 'He' as in Burning_Earth.

well no.. you were talking to BE and saying that you'll have a hard time trusting him if *he* flips town.

who is he? it can't be BE, cause that just doesn't make sense

[Mantisdreamz]

No ger, I'm referring to the fact that when you kill me it'll be the same as a scumkill. It was another way of me letting everyone know how much I don't trust your reads right now.

@Kthx, I'll be confirmed town when Ger anti-town kills me, yes.

I see.
Well, you will get the last laugh tomorrow then with your last gasp of air...

...lol

[Konowa]

Konowa was thinking that too, Mantisdreamz. The entire sentence seems to fall apart if Mantisdreamz' bolded was Burning_Earth as LynxKuroneko stated. Would like LynxKuroneko to clarify this.

Mantisdreamz, Mantisdreamz also said that Mantisdreamz does not like LynxKuroneko's D2 play. What about it?

[Konowa]

Also, smurf if Thor665 is having similar thoughts as Konowa.

[d3x]

L-1, No Claim, 7hrs left... just saying.

[geraintm]

VOTE: josh b

[Mantisdreamz]

Konowa was thinking that too, Mantisdreamz. The entire sentence seems to fall apart if Mantisdreamz' bolded was Burning_Earth as LynxKuroneko stated. Would like LynxKuroneko to clarify this.

Mantisdreamz, Mantisdreamz also said that Mantisdreamz does not like LynxKuroneko's D2 play. What about it?

well, i guess it could make sense for lynx to say that even if BE flips town, he's not going to trust his reads.
still... kinda a weird thing to say.

combined with the fact that he has stated:

@ Mantis - The fact that you're quite dedicated to campaigning Burning_Earth as town even though his posts consist of 1) sheeping / wagon-hopping, 2) finger pointing (and not much else, and barely with his own finger) and 3) _ _ _ _ _ <-- That represents emptiness. Is quite alarming.

^looks like enough reason to have someone as scum. (BE on lynx's part)

yet

Burning_Earth, this seems to be the only post of yours that actually would help town. But I'll have a much harder time trusting you if he flips town. (After all, the line between dead-weight town and scum is thin in my eyes).

^almost seems like lynx knows he is dead weight town.

it just doesn't really mesh. i know it sort of makes sense, that maybe lynx is questioning whether he is town or scum. but it still appears off to me. how do you go from stating what he said in the 1st paragraph, to jumping into a stance where he thinks he could be town. it's kinda like pushing, but then backing down a bit. not to mention the shoddy wording.


@konowa - maybe a different tone. or could be i'm looking at it different. i haven't liked his sum up posts. there's also a bit of snide in his remarks

[Mantisdreamz]

L-1, No Claim, 7hrs left... just saying.

he would have claimed in his last post if he did have something to claim, i think

[fferyllt]

VC 2.13

Now do I see
the earth anew
Rise all green
from the waves again;
The cataracts fall,
and the eagle flies,
And fish he catches
beneath the cliffs.

The gods in Ithavoll
meet together,
Of the terrible girdler
of earth they talk,
And the mighty past
they call to mind,
And the ancient runes
of the Ruler of Gods.

Josh_B

(7): LynxKuroneko, d3x, Kthxbye, Thor665, Mantisdreamz, Osseus pseudotripodis, geraintm

Burning_Earth

(2): Ansuz, Josh_B

Ansuz

(1): Burning_Earth

LynxKuroneko

(1): TunnelMates

Not Voting

(0):

With 12 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

Deadline: September 5, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-04 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

-

[fferyllt]

She takes a deep breath, having recited to the end the account of the ancient war and destruction. Her eyes fall on the low table, to see a second rune has fallen onto the scarf. This one is high, still in the outermost oval but to the north.

"Niflheim." It is the realm of that which resists, passive or restrictive external influences.. She feels the stone should come as a surprise, but it's as though it was fated since the dawn of time that it would fall here and now. "Hagalaz. Nature's wrath. Uncontrolled forces of weather or perhaps inner storms. That which resists, indeed. Nature's wrath even today can wreak havok and despair."

She shudders. Perhaps it is an omen of good, to know now what is to be faced.

Josh_B was Hagalaz,

Mafia Goon

.

Night One begins now and will end on September 8 at Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-08 09:00:00)

[fferyllt]

I won't be at a laptop for about an hour. Day 3 will begin shortly thereafter.

[fferyllt]

She contemplates the runecast, drawstring bag in hand, noting two new stones upon the scarves. One is far out to the west, beyond the first stone to have fallen. The other is below, to the south.

"Svartálfheim, the realm of the Dark Elves, who take the base minerals of the earth and smith them into fine metals. This is the realm of creativity and deep reflection. What does it mean for Thurisaz, the Thorn? to fall here? Destruction, defense, conflict, perhaps through destruction may come transformation, and ultimately success?"

She turns her gaze westward. ."Vanaheim. Another stone fallen here. This one is Dagaz, the dawn. Dawn in the west? This is the stone of daylight clarity. I think here, in the west, it suggests that clarity is obscured by the fall of night."

geraintm was Thurisaz, a

Town One Shot Strong-Willed Vigilante/Day 1 Vengeful

.

Mantisdreamz was Dagaz, a

Town Ability Cop

.

[fferyllt]

VC 3.0

In wondrous beauty
once again
Shall the golden tables
stand mid the grass,
Which the gods had owned
in the days of old,

Then fields unsowed
bear ripened fruit,
All ills grow better,
and Baldr comes back;
Baldr and Hoth dwell
in Hropt's battle-hall,
And the mighty gods:
would you know yet more?

Then Hönir wins
the prophetic wand,
And the sons of the brothers
of Tveggi abide
In Vindheim now:
would you know yet more?

More fair than the sun,
a hall I see,
Roofed with gold,
on Gimle it stands;
There shall the righteous
rulers dwell,
And happiness ever
there shall they have.

There comes on high,
all power to hold,
A mighty lord,
all lands he rules.

From below the dragon
dark comes forth,
Nithhogg flying
from Nithafjoll;
The bodies of men on
his wings he bears,
The serpent bright:
but now must I sink.

Thus ends the first Hovamol.

Day 3 Begins!

Not voting:

Ansuz, Konowa, Osseus pseudotripodis, Thor665, TunnelMates, d3x, Burning_Earth, Kthxbye, LynxKuroneko

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: September 23, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-22 21:00:00)

[Thor665]

That's a screwy set of night action results.
I'm trying to decide of Ger decided to play "clever" or not.

[Konowa]

Vote: Ansuz

[Konowa]

So Konowa is being lazy and likes either Ansuz or HighShroomish votes since Konowa thinks the likelihood of Ansuz and HighShroomish being scum together is high.

Vote: Ansuz

For posterity, building on Tunnel's earlier post about Ansuz, distinction between hiplop and HighShroomish equals a big fat zero.

For reference.

Which means Bert is Town.

[TunnelMates]

What does that have to do with me?

I have wayyyy more time this month than I did August/July, so I should be quite active this game day. I clearly underestimated Josh's scumgame and believed too much in my meta-read.

Also, quoting those last WIFOMic reads for reference, although I won't pontificate anything from it.

I'm sorry about this game. It was one more than I can handle. I've been on this binge to see if people are actually scum reading me for true reasons or if it's scum just scum reading what ever the fuck they want to. Since my neck is on the table, I'll give some final reads.

I was hoping that we would lynch Burning_Earth, but that isn't going to happen now. So.. here it goes.

Kthx is town.
D3x is town.
Osseus is town.
MantisDreamz is town.
Burning Earth is town.
Gameplay is town.

LYNCH EVERYONE else in this order...
Tunnelmates
Ansuz
Gerantim

[TunnelMates]

More dead people's reads.

not a great list.. but

town:
Konowa
Thor665 gameplay506
d3x
Burning_Earth
geraintm
Kthxbye

uncertain now, but still prob lean town
TunnelMates (notscience and bert)

scum in
Ansuz (Nacho and Desperado)
Josh_B HighShroomish
Osseus pseudotripodis (t-bone and Untrod Tripod)
LynxKuroneko

Pretty much agree with this list.
My opinions on Ansuz and ozzy are well known. Will post about josh shortly

[Konowa]

Thor665, sadly, is Town, because Konowa thinks HighShroomish was white knighting gameplay506 D1. Don't feel like find the exact post just now.
d3x is Town.
kthxbye still being alives makes Konowa paranoid, but Konowa feels that thought processes/motivations have been similar to Konowa all game so likely Town, thus Burning_Earth is likely Town as well.
Leaves Osseus pseudotripodis or LynxKuroneko as final scum.

What does what have to do with Bert?

[TunnelMates]

Strangely, B_E was the counterwagon...my last comment about night actions since commenting on that is really not helpful, is that scum not killing B_E (if B_E is town) is.... strange?

I find kthxbye to be pretty town, but honestly during the night I really doubted whether she/he was actually hider.

[TunnelMates]

Which means Bert is Town.

that's what I'm referring to.

[TunnelMates]

That's a screwy set of night action results.
I'm trying to decide of Ger decided to play "clever" or not.

Did you consciously decide not to reveal immediately whether you were "shot at" last night?

[Konowa]

Bert's case on Ansuz doesn't come across as scum building on scum. Since Konowa thinks Ansuz is likely scum at this point, Bert is likely Town.

[Konowa]

There was also the meta read Bert put out on Konowa D2 "definitive reads, etc" that Konowa thinks if Bert/notsci was scum, that notsci would have said something about Alice in Wonderland where Konowa was scum and pretty wishy-washy all game to try and use to discredit Konowa.

[TunnelMates]

that explanation is in shambles, such a swingy read

Bert doesn't like that.