Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[Thor665]

Oh, I see, it's a slip rather than the lack of commitment.
Meh and double meh. I'm with Konowa on this one.

[Kthxbye]

Maybe. I'm double thinking my thoughts on why BE didn't get targeted last night. I did want express wanting to know Mantis's alignment during D2. Maybe scum thought I was trying to pull a fast one on them?

Then again, why even try that if BE is town? If BE was town and I was confirming hiding behind him, if they don't target him, they leave me to confirm another player while taking out town Mantis who had some suspicions from a confirmed town player?

No, I'm right and need to not second guess myself on this.

VOTE: BE

[Thor665]

The issue is, as currently claimed, the night actions are all still pretty screwy.

[Kthxbye]

I think I shall confirm Lynx as town or scum tonight over anyone else. He needs to die with me (if he's town) or be confirmed scum before this goes anywhere near end game.

I have from town to scum:

d3x
Konowa
Ansuz
Thor

OP
TM

Lynx
BE

[Konowa]

Screwy, yes. Not too hard to try and figure out though.

Ansuz shot ger.
ger -was- going to shoot Osseus pseudotripodis, but Mantisdreamz dies instead.

Lack of N1 kill suggested no third party.
ger flipping vig, Ansuz claiming vig, reinforces no third party.
Mantisdreamz dying instead of Osseus pseudotripodis suggests possible scum redirector role of some kind?

Votes today should be Burning_Earth though. This, in Konowa's opinion, should be one of those short Days.

[Kthxbye]

The issue is, as currently claimed, the night actions are all still pretty screwy.

Maybe, maybe not. Ansuz (whether scum or town) claimed the shot on the vig. With ger dead, there's no telling if he shot, who he shot, and thus if it was blocked. The only way I would buy BE being town is if there is a doc and ger shot Mantis (which he never even hinted at as a possibility).

So yeah, no matter who shot who and where what went, barring a doc protect of BE claim, BE is scum. No way scum would let me confirm another town and skip the opportunity to take me out.

This day does NOT need to last more than 24 hours.

PE: yeah, what Konowa said.

[Kthxbye]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Burning_Earth (3): Kthxbye, Lynx, Konowa
Ansuz (1): Thor

Not Voting (5): TunnelMates, d3x, Ansuz, OP, BE

2 more votes on BE like sooner than later.

[Thor665]

Screwy, yes. Not too hard to try and figure out though.

Ansuz shot ger.
ger -was- going to shoot Osseus pseudotripodis, but Mantisdreamz dies instead.

Lack of N1 kill suggested no third party.
ger flipping vig, Ansuz claiming vig, reinforces no third party.
Mantisdreamz dying instead of Osseus pseudotripodis suggests possible scum redirector role of some kind?

Votes today should be Burning_Earth though. This, in Konowa's opinion, should be one of those short Days.

Go re-read Ger's role and get back to me.

[Konowa]

Strong-willed, yeah?

[Thor665]

Yeah.

So, night actions are screwy, yeah?

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

Hmm.

I don't think I was wrong with geraintm, but we can open that discussion tomorrow when his vig somehow doesn't go through and he somehow doesn't have it anymore.

It might be better than voting a one-shot vig claim, which is almost comparable to voting a one-shot friendly neighbor claim.

You speak like a pirate, talk like a pirate and run like a pirate.

Was Ansuz insistent that Ger was scum yesterday AFTER Ger claimed Vig?

I agree, BE should be the lynch today. I don't agree that we need to end this day right this minute, but consider this an intent to hammer.

[Konowa]

Is Thor665 equating strong-willed to that of a strongman role? Is that why Thor665 says Night actions are screwy?

[TunnelMates]

Is BE lynched for being suspicious, or mostly for not dying last night?

[TunnelMates]

This day does NOT need to last more than 24 hours.

there is no confirmed scum though

[Kthxbye]

IIRC, ger was only 'strongman' on N3...which he didn't make it to. He wanted to wait but wasn't going to be able to due to outing himself and being a likely target.

[Kthxbye]

Is BE lynched for being suspicious, or mostly for not dying last night?

Mostly for being worthless AND a strong side of not dying last night. Look at his 2 posts today. No content. Scum-him posted as he thought he saw a loophole then figured it out and posted 1 more time with nothing to add. Not town play from him all game, he didn't die last night, AND he's worthless even if he is somehow town (which will blow my mind).

[Konowa]

Very quickly posting, nearly midnight here.
I don't think I can win at the moment. I am going to shoot someone tonight. If it goes through, then people will go and say I am a serial killer and want me dead.
If it doesn't then they will lynch me.

I have this massive fear I am going to be blocked from my shot tonight.
I'll explain why, and why I think people think my shot won't go through.

My role said I am a one shot vig.
But if I wait till the third night my shot is immune to all interference except protection. (I believe when I claimed I said my role had caveats. This is it)

Do people think that it is likely that scum have a way of blocking my shot somehow?

[TunnelMates]

I didn't see that post until you quoted it



Just making sure because of wariness about lynching based on lack of kill

[TunnelMates]

VOTE: Burning Earth

Hiders can't be blocked right even if bastard?

[TunnelMates]

Lynch -1.

[Kthxbye]

Would like d3x to hammer plox

[Ansuz]

You speak like a pirate, talk like a pirate and run like a pirate.

Because he claimed vig, there was no reason for me not to shoot him during the night as opposed to counterclaiming him in public. People voting him was useless that day because there was no reason he ever should have been lynched without a chance to prove himself without a counterclaim, and even then, bullets are the hardest form of proof.

Ansuz - So you're claiming a role that's already been used?

Yes.

Vote: Ansuz

Talk me through what you think happened last night.

@Lynx -

Currently, working theory is that he shot OP but OP is bulletproof.

Was Ansuz insistent that Ger was scum yesterday AFTER Ger claimed Vig?

I don't think I was wrong with geraintm, but we can open that discussion tomorrow when his vig somehow doesn't go through and he somehow doesn't have (

Do you not believe my claim?

No, not at all.
I have a good feeling about it becoming incredibly obvious when the sun comes up though!

[fferyllt]

VC 3.1

Within the gates
ere a man shall go,
(Full warily let him watch,)
Full long let him look about him;
For little he knows
where a foe may lurk,
And sit in the seats within.

Hail to the giver!
a guest has come;
Where shall the stranger sit?
Swift shall he be who,
with swords shall try
The proof of his might to make.

Burning_Earth

(4): LynxKuroneko, Konowa, Kthxbye, TunnelMates

Ansuz

(1): Thor665

Not Voting

(4): Ansuz, Burning_Earth, d3x, Osseus pseudotripodis

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: September 23, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-22 21:00:00)

[LynxKuroneko]

But I'm not scum.

Hurting my feelings, here!

I'm still iffy about two vigs.

Please town confirm me! :3 It'll make what I have to say tomorrow matter!

For now, I'm willing to trust Kthx's conclusion of B_E's fate.

[d3x]

I'm not ready for the Day to end. I want to look back at earlier VCs and stack it up against the JoshWagon from Yesterday.

I'd also like to Confirm Konowa's Beloved status {as I thought that was a high priority Yesterday}.

Vote:Konowa