Robin Williams Mafia - rememberance - game over

[Titus]

My working hypothesis is still that NottheMafia is scum. I don't buy the "too scummy to be scum" defence, particularly with new players.

At 6 or 7 votes, he looked in danger. His scumbuddies then had a choice of bussing him or trying to save him.

When Reinoe made several posts about his suspicions of me being scum, I looked for all the world like a potentially easy target for an alternative lynch. The Plagiarist, the only other choice, wasn't posting heavily and didn't look like he'd give the same level of strong reaction as I would. And then, out of nowhere, up pop alelina, Regal and Baezu to stir up a viable counterwagon. Regal hopped on and then hopped off when it appeared to be going nowhere, and Baezu is voting me despite subsequently apparently posting about a townread on me.

I think it's distinctly possible that NtM is not only scum, but scum with a power role worth saving. And I think it distinctly possible that one of Regal and Baezu is scum with him.

And if the scum do have power-roles, then three scum is more likely than four. And I still haven't forgotten Powerful Townie's statement about there being three scum.

Is it actually this easy?

You say that like it's a foregone conclusion that they are all my scumbuddies. In fact, it doesn't look that easy at all. Everything that you just said is nothing but speculation. Dybeck has spent the game probing random people concerning the tiniest of slip-ups. He made a big deal out of PT's claim of the amount of mafia in the game. He started my bangwagon simply because I "wasn't scumhunting." He tried to make reinoe's post restrictions seem important. Searching for lynch targets is a big part of the game, but Dybeck has been bringing up technicalities and speculation, then passing them off as evidence for lynching. One of the biggest goals as a mafioso should likely be to collapse the village on itself. Arousing suspicion for everyone in the group is a fantastic way to get the town to kill each other, and with the ways Dybeck has been painting everyone to be worse than they are, it's a possibility that this is his end goal.

Of course, some of this is me speculating, but it's still better reasoning than the random hypothesis you threw together.

I would imagine if he was mafia, he wouldn't be pushing slips or what not (driving conversations) but merely "observing" things and letting the comments fuel natural divisions.

[Titus]

I do not care for getting in a shit storm with nor sheeping ika at the moment and I want a counter wagon for VCA.

VOTE: Not the mafia

[POWERFUL TOWNIE]

i fully endorse my own wagon.

[Evil Regals]

Why...?

[POWERFUL TOWNIE]

Why...?

ive done jack shit
ive been lurking
ap is like afk due to rl
i have payed liek 0 attention to the tread atm
fuck day 1

[POWERFUL TOWNIE]

yes im making myself amy own scum case

[reinoe]

Spoiler: Dear Diary 9/14/2014 11:58pm

Wow, you get caught watching Toonami and next thing you know the day's almost over. Speaking of Toonami, I'm really glad they brought it back. Seriously, [adultswim] has made some really fucking terrible decisions and cancelling toonami was among the worst. Actually it's safe to say that Williams Street, though often innovative, are just as often bumbling incompetent buffoons.

[dybeck]

yes im making myself amy own scum case

This is Not Helpful.

[Obscurity]

Vanity wagons are totally in, BTW.

Unvote, Vote: Baezu

What do you mean by this?

I didn't care for the bigger wagons.

I think he means he's voting for me because he knows me. Who are the heads of your hydra?

That's not the right reason. Also, my question to you was not rhetorical.

@Obscurity...
You've gone from one vanity wagon in Adelina to another vanity wagon in Baezu. Does that mean you have only town or null reads and you have no scum reads?

If so why isn't ntm scum? Also why isn't dybeck scum?

I have some town reads, but that's about it. Baezu was the farthest to the scum side of the spectrum.

Reinoe is gut and a bit of the scum tell that he posted.

Elmo is cuz of meta and gut .

Ika is a bit of a toss up at the moment.

So yeah all gut reads

What do you mean by ika being "a bit of a toss up" yet still wanting POWERFUL TOWNIE dead?

[DOMO]

ap is like afk due to rl

This is a lie. His last post was yesterday, in fact he posted 4 times in his regular account yesterday. He's not afk, he's avoiding this game. I'm curious why that is. I've seen AP as scum before and he thrives as scum, so his lack of participation hints town. But you insisting he's afk when you've been told twice he's site active, I don't understand why you're making excuses for him. It would be strange for you to make such a lie as scum though, because it's so easy for us to check it out.

ika, why have you ignored the two people who told you that AP is site active and continue to press the idea he's afk?

[POWERFUL TOWNIE]

yes im making myself amy own scum case

This is Not Helpful.

or really? tell me how?

@domo: you interpretation of "afk" and mines are 2 diffrent things, im fully aware hes posting elsewhere but you can see its sparce compared to how he usally is.

[DOMO]

@domo: you interpretation of "afk" and mines are 2 diffrent things

My apologies, I was assuming "away from keyboard".

[farside22]

Vote count

:

Reinoe (0)
adelina (0)
peregrinev (0)
baezu (1) Obscurity
burn_209 (0)
Obscurity (0)
dybeck (4) alelina, not the mafia, Reinoe, Brandi
cloud nine (0)
POWERFUL TOWNIE (1) peregrine
Domo (1) plagiarist
Evil Regals (0)
Brandi (0)
ELMO TEH AZN (1) evil regals
Not the mafia (3) dybeck , elmo, Titus
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (2) powerful townie, Domo

Not voting:
Cloud nine, burn_209, baezu

With 16 alive it will take 9 to lynch
Deadline:
(expired on 2014-09-20 07:30:00)

[Titus]

yes im making myself amy own scum case

This is Not Helpful.

Everyone has their own methods. I will learn more about them through this. ika is not a rational player(meaning logical, not implying insanity). You cannot read people by usefulness to you but use their intent.

[dybeck]

yes im making myself amy own scum case

This is Not Helpful.

Everyone has their own methods. I will learn more about them through this. ika is not a rational player(meaning logical, not implying insanity). You cannot read people by usefulness to you but use their intent.

lolwut?

[farside22]

I'm looking for a replacement for burn at this point.

[Baezu]

Obscurity- the reason I made that post is because doubt was expressed regarding reinoe's statement's validity and I wanted to point out that I have seen it in other places. I realize now that it may have given him an out. I really felt the way reinoe just started making posts that way was town. He didn't explain why he was doing it. I would think scum would try to mitigate the unusual nature of the posting style by saying that they have a posting restriction

[dybeck]

I think we've covered Reinoe's fake post restriction in enough detail.

[Baezu]

I agree but obscurity asked me to explain again

[reinoe]

yes im making myself amy own scum case

This is Not Helpful.

Everyone has their own methods. I will learn more about them through this. ika is not a rational player(meaning logical, not implying insanity). You cannot read people by usefulness to you but use their intent.

lolwut?

Everything Titus said makes sense.

feign confusion more please

[reinoe]

I'm more and more thinking Dybeck is town.

Why is dybeck town? You say "more and more". What has dybeck being doing that has been convincing you that he's town?

[reinoe]

Spoiler: Dear Diary 9/14/2014 7:26 pm PST

Today was a kinda shitty day. I've had a headache allday and I've finally decided to bite the bullet and take some aspirin. I'm of the belief that you should only take meds if you have to but this has been an all day affair. It's really cut into my ability to enjoy football.

Speaking of football all of my teams are doing crappy. I left a bunch of high scorers on the bench. I also accepted a trade for Phillip Rivers for RG3. Afterwards Rivers had an amazing game and RG3 is increasingly looking like he's going to play like shit all season.

Also my landlord's daughter ate my last poptart. I don't even give a fuck about poptarts, I bought a bunch of them in bulk because they were cheap. But like she left the empty box in my cabinet and hid the wrapper in the bathroom under the sink. She's only 12 and has no hope for a criminal career. I think this was more of a cry for attention because it's pretty obvious she wasn't trying to hide the empty box.

The only silver lining is that my dinner was tasty: scrambled eggs and swiss with those hawaiian rolls and some ham. I put salsa on it and had some broccoli on the side. I also have one of those 100 oz giant mugs. I went to the local Mavericks and filled it with some raspberry tea mixed with lemonade. I also bought some Twix.

But that mavericks trip was not enough to make up for everything else.

[Brandi]

I think we've covered Reinoe's fake post restriction in enough detail.

What is the point of posts like these? You don't know his PR is fake.

[reinoe]

I think we've covered Reinoe's fake post restriction in enough detail.

What is the point of posts like these? You don't know his PR is fake.

It's because he's scum. ntm nailed it: almost every post dybeck is making is about sowing doubt, discord, or confusion.

[dybeck]

I think we've covered Reinoe's fake post restriction in enough detail.

What is the point of posts like these? You don't know his PR is fake.

Well the point was the exact opposite of what it achieved... To get everyone back on track to find scum and start talking about Reinoe's silliness. We know this is something he does for fun. It's stupid and immature, but it doesn't necessarily make him scum.

Reinoe, you need to look more widely at the game. You've gotten stuck in a rut where you've convinced yourself I'm scum. It's fine to think I'm scum but you do need to look at the wider picture too.

Quoting NtM's post is a really bad reason to vote me. It accuses me of being scum for speculating and probing. That's what everyone should be doing. I'd love to see more of that. I will carry on being suspicious of everyone because THAT'S THE GAME OF MAFIA!

Excessive inquiry is not what helps scum. Apathy is what helps scum.