NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)


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Post Post #3775 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:04 am

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In post 3774, zMuffinMan wrote:i think oka is scum but, theoretically, correct play here is letting night actions sort that. there's at least two killing parties and, if oka is neither of them, he needs to be killed some time soon (and in the mean time he has to protect the claimed cop which isn't a bad thing)

im kind of meh on all the other wagons. PV could be scum i suppose but i dunno how that fits with oka being scum

<this has been a prod dodge>

OKA hasn't flipped yet but aero has...

Who's most likely to be scum with Aero.
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Post Post #3776 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:17 am

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4 days left :(

I say we start agreeing on who we should lynch.
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Post Post #3777 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:23 am

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VOTE: Mirhawk

That's for Oka and zmuffin.

Zmuffin, I ammacho. Oka cannot protect me.

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TITUS IS THE MACHO ONE SHOT BP COP!
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Post Post #3778 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:37 am

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TITUS IS THE MACHO ONE SHOT BP COP!

Vote:Mir
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Post Post #3779 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:29 am

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Titus is believing this bullshit claim!
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Post Post #3780 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:31 am

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Notscience doesn't know what he is talking about!
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Post Post #3781 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:10 pm

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This weekend turned out impossible for posting, will be back tomorrow night
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Post Post #3782 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:13 pm

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Why are people voting for Mirhawk when we could be lynching PeregrineV.

Nobody is actually making any sort of case on Mirhawk.
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Post Post #3783 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:43 pm

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In post 3779, notscience wrote:Titus is believing this bullshit claim!


I am putting my faith in a copper power.

Also, that game where town immediately claimed in private hoods are finished. My job was to IC that game. That's generally my role but less and less so as things go on. The game was crawling with neighborhoods. The macho cop claimed in their hood day 1. http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/o ... -6.371364/

I could not say that before because the game was ongoing.
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Post Post #3784 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:52 pm

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In post 3782, reinoe wrote:Why are people voting for Mirhawk when we could be lynching PeregrineV.

Nobody is actually making any sort of case on Mirhawk.

Yeah I've noticed this trend.

PV is kind of summy, I might be more inclined for someone else on my list at the moment though. Jiffy or TN.
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Post Post #3785 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:52 pm

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That's nice

Doesn't mean it's not done mroe by scum
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Post Post #3786 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:29 pm

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I know, that's why I'm not making a big thing of it.
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Post Post #3787 (ISO) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:12 pm

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ok I see we are voting Mir

VOTE: Mirhawk
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Post Post #3788 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:44 am

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In post 3787, gameplay506 wrote:ok I see we are voting Mir

VOTE: Mirhawk

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Post Post #3789 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:11 am

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I realizedthat could be interpreted as a guilty on Mirhawk. It is not. I just wanted to repeat the claim again.
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Post Post #3790 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:12 am

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In post 3776, OkaPoka wrote:4 days left :(

I say we start agreeing on who we should lynch.


It's PV or Mirhawk.
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Post Post #3791 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:24 am

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I'm happy with my vote, thanks.
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Post Post #3792 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:53 am

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Previously we had someone get lynched when almost nobody made a case...

In post 2829, Wake1 wrote:
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It is now Night 1.

Please submit any Night Actions via PM.

Deadline expires 9/6/14, @11AM central.


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Post Post #3793 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:39 pm

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Majiffy
- I'll be honest. You and I haven't interacted much this game, and I've been flip flopping your read pretty much every time I read the game. At the time I posted that I was in a time crunch, and the bits that I read that night had me thinking you were sounding a bit scummy. I was very much not a fan of your early game, and at present I'm failing to see your case on Mirhawk, outside of thinking there's a scum in each neighborhood. Do you have any other reasoning for that, because based on interaction in the hood, and his game here, I don't get much of a scum vibe from him.

As for the PV wagon, I'm torn. I'm not entirely convinced either way, though I am starting to lean scum. The biggest thing driving me right now is I think PV's flip will give us quite a bit of information based on his wagon. I'd actually prefer a tn lynch, but with less than three days it looks like it's between PV and Mir. Unless I see an extremely good case on Mir, I'm sticking with my previous statement of not voting for him.

Since my vote should be somewhere, I'll stick it here for now

VOTE: Pere
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Post Post #3794 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:40 pm

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gameplay
- Do you actually think Mir is scum, or are you just voting him since people have in the last page and you're not reading the last few days worth of posting?
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Post Post #3795 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:53 pm

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So yeah went back and reread Aero.

Several things stick out to me.
-All of Aero's posts regarding TN are conversational, rather then inquisitive. This isn't really a trend I noticed with anyone else. This may be due to them being in a neighborhood however. More then once he posts solely for the purpose of ridiculing votes on TN.
-Aero claimed there were five people in his neighborhood. Neither he nor the other people in his neighborhood ever corrected this. This may be because his teammates were lurkers/not reading the game/not in the neighborhood though.
-Notscience is unlikely to be on a team with Aero. Same with Oka.
-Aero's choice to investigate Titus was odd. Why would a fakeclaimed gunsmith investigate the only person in the game likely to actually have a gun. Who he was going to claim to investigate would have been discussed by the scumteam overnight, so why Titus.
-Aero had tons of interaction with Tree's wagon. But despite that, his incessant flipping back and forth on his opinions makes it impossible to determine where he actually stood.
-Aero's meltdown during his argument with notscience makes me think that he was frustrated that his teammates weren't of much help. He flat out states that he's "Tired of being the scum in charge of the game".

Another thing that occurred to me a while ago is that neighbor status isn't revealed upon flip. It's fairly unlikely that scum took advantage of this, as GP and Aero had claimed neighborhood status before we even learned this. I don't think it's relevant, but there's no harm in pointing it out.

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The people voting me should probably READ MY ISO or something to try and determine if I'm town or not. That would be real cool.

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Aero doesn't really say anything to Peregrine that he doesn't say to at least a couple other people, so there's nothing to go on in regards to that.

Peregrine is an okay lynch i guess. But I would hardly call it good.

Vote: TN


I'm going to reread Peregrine.
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Post Post #3796 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:25 pm

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preferred lynches:

pv (probably the scum in our hood, seemed too informed about gamestate / nothing here and trying to collect townreads in our hood / earlier trying not to narrow down our hood until i pushed on him)
tn (feeling the scum meta, similarly to recent open whatevernumber that feirei+caled just modded)

mirhawk place your vote on pv because they're prob a scumteam anyway
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Post Post #3797 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:59 pm

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Rereading Peregrine

-His interaction with the day one lynch sucks. It looks kind of like he's mocking the players who are trying to get a lynch by being abjectly unhelpful.
-PV's 2798 drives me nuts. It stands out to me EVERY time I go back. It's a zip code in Texas, but that's all I got.
-PV addresses the five man neighborhood. Never mentions that again. This may be irrelevant.
-PV shimmies up nice and tight to Aero during day one. Then is conspicuously absent during day two when Titus throws down. Dunno if the second part matters since he has several periods of inactivity scattered around the game.
-~3500ish seems to become more involved with game.
-Lots of posts that I would classify as noise/setup speculation/offtopic.

I dunno, his insistence that Aero was town is the only thing that really stands out to me. His play isn't really town, but isn't really scum either. What do you got on him?

@Peregrine
What's your thoughts on no lynches?
Why were you being so unhelpful at the end of day one?
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Post Post #3798 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:00 pm

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In post 3797, Mirhawk wrote:What do you got on him?

Oops nevermind you answered this. I'm going to bed though, I'll look at it tomorrow.
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Post Post #3799 (ISO) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:04 pm

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TN is probably town. Scum wouldn't swing at the cop unless they figured they would get support.
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