Open 573: C9++

[Aneninen]

Okay, I feel stupid about that Stavrogin vote now.

UNVOTE:

Not only because of his V/LA. Not only because he had been pretty much inactive in general elsewhere too. I have another reason for saying that I've misinterpreted his lurking but because of the site rules I can't explain it right now. In short: he's null.

Massive and both heads of 50Shades seem to be active elsewhere. Do you all still think that my "Early-lurking scums" theory is bullshyt?
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I still don't really like Anen, but him continuing posting in that very same style makes me question my scumread there a bit. I will have to read his prior game(s?).

Do you still need links? 3 completed and 2 abandoned games, that's all I can give. (Am I allowed to link abandoned games anyway?)
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why is grayfoxx town?

Originally, mostly because I have/had¹ a scumread on Sthar8. Though I must admit, I was unable to follow his huge quote-posts and I might have ignored some of his latest posts (because they seemed to be uninteresting). I'll examine his posts later. (And I promise, I try not to produce walls this time.)

(1) @Sthar8, I'm still waiting for your links.
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I'll examine MonkeyMan too because, as far as I can remember most of his posts have been scummy. For example this:

Is there something wrong with not wanting to be lynched?
I will stop being an unhelpful prick for a little bit.
Heartless is town though and that was a genuine thing I have said since forever. I am also sad my first impression on TTH was a bad one because I want them to like me. :'(

The last sentence could be a buddy-ing attempt. Oookaaay, I might have misinterpreted him again and it was a joke – but he said just above that he would stop being unhelpful... was it really a joke in that context?
Also, I know it's only a feeling, but the first sentence sounds like a scum-flail melody in my mind, as I read it. (The melody itself is in A-flat major, if anyone's interested in. ^_^)

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Post-edit: I can see new posts from Wgeurts. I'll examine them later.

[Heartless]

Massive and both heads of 50Shades seem to be active elsewhere. Do you all still think that my "Early-lurking scums" theory is bullshyt?

there aren't any delicate ears here. you can say bullshit.

and yes.

[Heartless]

Sorry for bad formatting and sentence structure still on phone. My third paragraph is reffering to post 297.

Mod, I need to go on V/LA until Tuesday, life's a bit ridiculous at the moment.

(Haven't done this before, hope this is the right way to do it.)

Sorry everyone, everything's hectic at the moment. Will read and actually participate when I'm back.

well i don't know about anyone else but

I

JUST

CAN'T FUCKING WAIT

for the cascade of catchups from some people

[Heartless]

tth is taking too long

VOTE: grayfoxx

[MTD]

urgh.

@MOD: V/LA tomorrow through Wednesday.

I'll try to get something more done tonight, tho.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Sorry for bad formatting and sentence structure still on phone. My third paragraph is reffering to post 297.

Mod, I need to go on V/LA until Tuesday, life's a bit ridiculous at the moment.

(Haven't done this before, hope this is the right way to do it.)

Sorry everyone, everything's hectic at the moment. Will read and actually participate when I'm back.

well i don't know about anyone else but

I

JUST

CAN'T FUCKING WAIT

for the cascade of catchups from some people

Why did you quote me?

[GrayFoxxxx]

urgh.

@MOD: V/LA tomorrow through Wednesday.

I'll try to get something more done tonight, tho.

Please reply to me if you can before your absence.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Grayfoxx your trying so hard to look town it's almost scummy.

How do I reply to this? Should I act scummy so people don't think I'm scummy?

Makes no sense

[sthar8]

(1) @Sthar8, I'm still waiting for your links.

oh yeah, i forgot. doing it now.

Town-
Micro 264 I got pretty mean to RedCoyote in this one.

Mini 1483 I misread TSO pretty severely and made him much angrier than I intended to on Day 1.

Scum-
Open 536 I know you said no replaces but I replace

a lot

. This game I replaced in early day 1 and got grumpy both faked and real.

Mini 1504 I'm part of the Lying Cat hydra and I think I signed most of my posts. I tend to be less aggressive when hydra'd with Jingle so it's a little toned down, but I definitely also had an all-caps 70% cursing spoilered rant about why posting frequency is a bullshit scumtell.

I promise that grumpiness is not an alignment tell for me.

[MTD]

One quick response to MTD. Did you even read 297? I wasn't reading wguerts, I was answering something he brought up regarding my vote. It's so obvious it's almost scummy that you scum read me on it. It's also so obvious I don't think I scum would try to flat out deceive the town like that.

Ok, I get it. I am not sure you (or me) understood wguerts post correctly then, though. I though he meant the votes

of

sthar and Anen, you apparently thought he meant the ones

on

them.

I wasn't the only person to get caught up on wguerts no Lynch post. He explained his self and I left it alone.

The post explains your other point about my early game read on sthar as well. Why is it so hard to see me pushing sthar?

You are right that I have tunneled him, so I'm going to reread everything and try and get other reads.

It isn't scummy for me to hard push sthar if I think he might be scum. My willingness to prove my point isn't a good enough reason for you to vote me.

Yup, that explains that I guess, only thing I have a problem with is that the original push on sthar by you was about a post you obviously misunderstood (as I said before), that

not really

being a good reason for one. The rest of the discussion was in my eyes mostly a waste of time and space, as discussions based on misunderstandings tend to be. But yeah, that's not enuogh atmo.UNVOTE:

@Anen: I would be happy about those links.

[MTD]

Grayfoxx your trying so hard to look town it's almost scummy.

Uhm, where is he trying to look town? Can't see it...

[Aneninen]

@MTD

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=58001 (The game Mollie mentioned. Hadn't been my terrible Day1, we might have won.)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58191 (In this one I was better, though I almost blew everything up on Day1. Again. Later we'd been doing quite good but the scums were better.)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58243 (Ugh. I have no excuse for this one. On the other hand, this might be good content for the Wiki about how

not

to play Mafia ^_^ Antihero and Sthar8 could tell you about this game too.)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=58778 (Abandoned. I replaced into a terrible slot. Nevertheless I got survived the Day but later it turned out that my slot had been lynched before I arrived.)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=58769 (Abandoned and it's a pity. There would have been an interesting fight between Hershey Kiss and me to "outplay" each other.)

I've been trying hard to adopt a better gameplay since I realized my errors. I should have realized earlier that a 0–3 record shows that I'm not unlucky; I'm ...not a genius.

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Sthar8, I'll check your links soon.

[Death Stare]

I am leaving monkey to nacho

Just curious but is nacho even playing this game right now?

*reads more*
Aneninen can be town.

The true sign of kindness and caring.

I like their case on Monkey I think, although it seems to mostly be based on his interaction with wguerts

No it isn't. The main point of the case (which is from a head who started the thing, me) is this:

Death Stare:
You suspect MonkeyMan because his vote on wgeurt is "bad" because (reasons). Then, you argue that after Nacho called him out on having a bad vote, MonkeyMan shoehorned in another reason to vote wgeurt. This is evidenced by (something). These are the reasons for your MonkeyMan vote.
Is all that correct, and if so, could you please fill in the missing links?

tl;dr
(reasons) = didn't bother to state them again after Nacho stated them already.
(something) = multiple factors. The timing of the post (as in, I think as town in general would say something about nacho's comment on his reason for vote being wrong first), and the tone of the post (the way he posted that post suggests that he was looking for other reason to justify his vote while silently ditching his first reason that nacho called bad).

The other post from Ankamius is why he supported my vote on Monkey, which is a secondary reason.

Grayfoxx your trying so hard to look town it's almost scummy.

Which post(s) specifically?

Will read and actually participate when I'm back.

5 bucks on him never doing this. Anyone else?

Monkey posts this and unvotes, he is obviously still in the mindset that I'm scum so why would he unvote?
Is he questioning his own reasoning or is he trying to loose attention?

tbf the post you quoted was an obvious sarcasm. What I did have problem with is not revoting.

I'm gonna take my time to organize my thoughts.

[Death Stare]

Ew I hate quote strips but I did it anyway bc I couldn't find a better way to post.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Ew I hate quote strips but I did it anyway bc I couldn't find a better way to post.

It's the only way.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Wgeurts can you explain why you quoted me in 299?

[Aneninen]

@Sthar8. I've checked the links. I think I know what you mean. Eg. in 1483 you were

ugh! the same

as here (eg. that fkking "Homework for TSO part). I think I would have scumread you for other things as well, like that "Achievements completed". Ugh-squared. In 536 you seemed to be a bit less grumpy but the sheer amount of characters you posted... Less agressive in 1504? I doubt it.

Since nothing has been left out of it, case is dismissed... for now.
(By the way, you are into board games? Like wow!)

(Note to self: revisiting GrayFox's and Monkeyman's posts later. Also, comparing my thoughts with MTD's and Wguerts' posts.)

[Death Stare]

I'm going to bug GIF to catch me up because I'm completely lost as to what's going on right now.

-Ank

[Death Stare]

I hate you.

[50 Shades of Purple]

Just curious but is nacho even playing this game right now?

yes i am playing the game and i am also disappointed you aren't dead in the gutters

[50 Shades of Purple]

Also I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch someone, I'm saying first we should pressure them to see how they react and base our judgement off that.

I think we should just lynch someone and hope they flip scum. Scumhunting is anti-town.

And if we hit wrong? We could be killing a cop for all we know! There are 9-10 town and 3 mafia, the chances of hitting a mob are 3/13 which is small. The chances of hitting town is 10/13 or 9/13 alot bigger and most likely.

Did you know the chances of hitting mafia are 0/13 if we don't lynch???
Those are really bad odds

[50 Shades of Purple]

Oh yeah, Death acted fishy but first we need pressure more and see defends him and pressure them, this could provide vital information. We just shouldn't Blitz-Lynch someone yet, first we need to squeeze juice out of them.

OK. The way you pressure someone is by voting them.
And then when they become more obvious scum than they already are, you lynch them.

[50 Shades of Purple]

i am slightly perturbed by the low number of rvs votes on me.

You aren't interesting, Death Stare is scum.
Sorry =[

[50 Shades of Purple]

Classic "ooh I found my REAL reason to keep the vote on you!" schmidt.
Bonus point for this happening after nacho calling him out for making a bad vote.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
no.

[Death Stare]

yes i am playing the game and i am also disappointed you aren't dead in the gutters

That's unfortunate isn't it