Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[Thor665]

Ansuz being scum has two issues.

One - it requires a lot of bad play or a redirect power that you can't detect as you instead detect his faction killing power, or it requires him getting a really impressive invention. You have not discussed that.

Also, it requires thinking I am town...which, if you are town, you literally have no particular reason to believe outside of my play, so it's odd you're going the Ansuz route which requires a bit of a mental leap anyway instead of going the 'maybe I am wrong about Thor' route.

[LynxKuroneko]

I did mention the fact that Ansuz could have obtained a gun from TunnelMates... *sigh*

I'm just going to go with whoever Konowa decides is scum, as we're getting nowhere with this.

I would lynch you both if I could, as I'm most confident in Konowa being town out of the three of you. Alas, I can not.

Trust me, you're a close second behind Ansuz. The fact that you're not scared to bring everything from this game into the light instead of being shy / introverted (ahem, Ansuz) allows me to believe that you're definite town when placed next to Ansuz.

If you are indeed town, and we both believe Konowa to be town, I can guarantee you that Ansuz is the last scum.

Noteworthy question, though...

@ Ansuz. When you said you had no caveats to your vig ability... Wouldn't that mean you're not a one-shot vig, as one-shot is a caveat? Did you do some extra killing the night Kthxbye died? :O The plot thickens!

@ Mod Lady - Can I just, like, kill both of them? Pleaaaase? I'll even sacrifice myself in the process.

[Thor665]

I did mention the fact that Ansuz could have obtained a gun from TunnelMates... *sigh*

Uh...you mentioned it *after* I did and ignored my discussion showing a belief that Ansuz would not have been a likely invention target.

I'm just going to go with whoever Konowa decides is scum, as we're getting nowhere with this.

"Because Ansuz is scum" Amirite?

[LynxKuroneko]

Its either I vote Ansuz or I vote you. Would you like me to let you choose? :/

[Thor665]

If you're fine with that you might as well flip a coin or go with your own beliefs instead of trying to outsource it and act like you're doing anything.

[LynxKuroneko]

:/

Okay. You said you believe there's a redirector. What have you done after that to show which of us could be the last scum? Because regardless of whether your theory is true or not, its still a theory and so doesn't mean you can base what has happened off that. You keep saying everyone made bad plays - guess what. That happens. We don't know who's who.

If you see me as final scum over Ansuz, vote me. (I think you are, but you get the point). If you see it being Ansuz over me, vote him. Ansuz won't vote himself, unfortunately, and will probably vote for whoever he feels makes the best scum case. Konowa will most likely be the deciding factor considering I'm the only one certain about who's final scum, given all the surrounding information. Most of us were right about Josh and B_E. Considering Ansuz was the most-scumread throughout the game, I 'm confident in town's gut - that he's the last one.

I do like your conviction - and that's the only reason, like I said, that I see Ansuz as final scum over you. I just can't see scum going through these lengths to present a case that actually reads as significant. And I sure feel that town players wouldn't just sit around on the final day and let time go by / let the thread die down. I only forgive Konowa for this due to the collective agreement that Konowa is town.

Funny that you keep discrediting my efforts / bashing my play when I'm the only person even trying to deal with you right now.

[Thor665]

Okay. You said you believe there's a redirector. What have you done after that to show which of us could be the last scum?

I made extensive posts ruling out who could not be a redirector.

If you see me as final scum over Ansuz, vote me. (I think you are, but you get the point).

Funny that you keep discrediting my efforts / bashing my play when I'm the only person even trying to deal with you right now.

Dealing with me is not the same as actually providing effort though. So it is possible to see you doing one but complain that you are not doing the other. I even listed off issues and you, per usual, blithely ignored them and made commentary here that...well, my friendly gif speaks for me, really. Or doesn't speak - which is the point.

[LynxKuroneko]

Eh.

I've made my points for Ansuz-scum.

You've made your points for Lynx-scum.

Ansuz scum-waded through today.

I'd like to see what Konowa's analysis is.

[Thor665]

I did mention the fact that Ansuz could have obtained a gun from TunnelMates... *sigh*

Uh...you mentioned it *after* I did and ignored my discussion showing a belief that Ansuz would not have been a likely invention target

[Konowa]

If you are indeed town

, and we both believe Konowa to be town, I can guarantee you that Ansuz is the last scum.

This? What is this?

[Konowa]

Also, Thor, the whole "let Thor beat Thor's chest for doing everything" is kind of a dick move when Thor doesn't know everything going on outside of Mafiascum.net.

[Konowa]

Preview, etc, etc.

[Thor665]

Also, Thor, the whole "let Thor beat Thor's chest for doing everything" is kind of a dick move when Thor doesn't know everything going on outside of Mafiascum.net.

Real life is as real life does.
Game commitments are as game commitments are.
If life is too tough for game, leave the game, clearly. If it is not, don't expect me to treat you differently than anyone else playing the game.

[Konowa]

Vote: LynxKuroneko

[Thor665]

Basically now we get to confirm or damn a lurksack - wheee.

[Ansuz]

VOTE: LynxKuroneko

[Konowa]

And....?

[Thor665]

And that is basically a scum claim.

[Thor665]

I hate the setup or multiple town players though.

[Ansuz]

Don't hate the players, hate the game

[LynxKuroneko]

Well. Good game. Town almost had it! >_<

[Thor665]

So you did have a redirect power then? That an ability cop couldn't detect?
Because otherwise I hate the players.

[Ansuz]

I don't think anyone did anything stupid all game, we were just really OP once everyone claimed

[Konowa]

God I hate you Nacho. I knew those warm and fuzzies were fake but ignored them.

[Ansuz]

So you did have a redirect power then? That an ability cop couldn't detect?
Because otherwise I hate the players.

Yes and I guess so? We probably showed as killing because she didn't investigate us until we were the last one remaining