Open 573: C9++

[50 Shades of Purple]

As for 50Shades, the Nachomamma-head is passive, the Pirate Mollie-head is active.

wtf do you even know me

[Death Stare]

When you're done catching up talk to me about grey btw

[50 Shades of Purple]

Also I hate your reasons for your scumleans on massive and stavgorin (or whatever the name is).

This push on Anen gets better and better!

nachomollie, please dance with me

i think anenien is a dirty rotten scumbag who needs a heaping helping of death
with a side
of mashed potatoes

agree or disagree?

i disagree
when there are easy targets everywhere, it strikes me as more concerning when an experienced player goes after an easy target than when a not so experienced player goes after an easy target
MTD's push on Anen is also 100x worse than Anen's push on whoever that lurker was sooo

[50 Shades of Purple]

this post in very lacking in dave and sthar scum reads.

where did the good reads go nero
where did the good reads go

I wasn't rushing him at all so where is he getting this? More of him trying to throw shade on my character to take away from my arguements.
I decided some verbal Judo was the best way of handling that specific quote, instead of arguing about something that didn't matter anyway. Him trying to frame me in that light just makes me think he is scum even more.

this reads town

Ok, everyone here is so much better at mafia than on the other forum. Any articles anywhere I can read to improve?

yes but you could also sheep me and you will have the same accuracy i do!!

>the "catchup" is a bunch of snipey, cutesie comments that don't really say....... anything.

this seems stylistic

>OH DEAR, UR SO MAD about people saying hydra names and sthar being a smartass. i say humparumpadumpadump adusapj;lkjk;lf3woijrhfpoiewhjqfjpoiwqejfoqwjefopewqewqjp

i say "null", but i've always been more articulate than you

>"lean scum", "lean town" /fart

this seems to be a way a lot of players feel and i don't think they're all scum!!!

>all that aaaaaaaaaaaand the vote ends up on...... mr. lurkaderp no posts

this was retarded yeah

fuck i got bored responding to this halfway through antihero this case isn't actually good

[50 Shades of Purple]

>the monkeyman read is an undeveloped turd sculpture (of course it's "lean" scum)

he didn't have much to say on monkeyman and that doesn't surprise me in the least bit.
why does it surprise you?

>50 shades magically gets a pass on this very very serious and rigorous "activity" standard because apparently we can't look at the playerlist and SEE WHO THE MAIN ACCOUNTS BEHIND THE HYDRA ARE. they're listed. right. there.

ya this also seems dumb but it seems dumb in the way that's just dumb, you know?

>nero's scumreads are so weird even though they all fall in the "null" section

"scumhunting looks genuine but scumreads are weird" seems like one of the more reasonable reads on that list

>GOD EVEN THE TOWNREADS come with some shitty modifier. you don't like what about grayfox? something about urging sthar? do what now?

lack of confidence isn't a scumtell and shitty modifiers are lack of confidence tells

what the hell are you doing, massive?

nothing

[50 Shades of Purple]

@wegurots- sink or swim time, boss. I have faith that you can engage and play this game. The only problems you've had so far are philosophical ones stemming from the fact that MS games tend to be better balanced than offsite games. There are several IC-qualified players in here who can answer any terminology or theory questions you have. Who do you think is scum?

he just answered this and he had a better answer than you would have produced.
please step up your game.

[50 Shades of Purple]

every time i look at this thread and don't see a 50 shades post

my heart breaks

twice

100 pieces of antihero heart.... /sigh

hi
did you know
i am here
?

[Death Stare]

MonkeyMan immediately pounced on it.

The first fallacy town players have to overcome is the "wrong = scum" fallacy. New player making a mistake and new player jumping on it is a pretty typical progression of events.

2. wgeurts posted a response in a similar vein to before and MonkeyMan wasted no time in condemning it further.

So?

3. None of MonkeyMan's posts after this show any particular willingness to deviate from this.

So?

I don't look at content to base votes on. I look at motivations. I didn't support the vote because he was wrong, but because he looked like he was taking advantage of the situation.

I didn't notice that he only had around 100 posts, though. That makes the above case basically null, but I still don't like some of the posts he's made since then.

-Ank

[Death Stare]

You are right. I shouldn't try to lynch the new scum. I should give them a break since they are new and everything. Why would anyone ever lynch someone because they think they are scummy?

UNVOTE:

this post is also town as balls

BTW, I'd really like an explanation on this because everything about this post pings.

-Ank

[50 Shades of Purple]

Also voting monkey if my gut is right would make monkey seem alot less scummy in the case of DS' es death.

this guy is literally styling on pretty much 80% of the game right now

[50 Shades of Purple]

I didn't support the vote because he was wrong, but because he looked like he was taking advantage of the situation.

Was he from a position to take advantage of the situation as a new player who is not familiar with the site, who is not familiar with any of us as players, and has absolutely no reputation to add that extra "oomph" to his words? No. Does he seem like the type of player who believes he could easily ascend to that type of position? No.

I didn't notice that he only had around 100 posts, though. That makes the above case basically null, but I still don't like some of the posts he's made since then.

Like what?

[50 Shades of Purple]

You are right. I shouldn't try to lynch the new scum. I should give them a break since they are new and everything. Why would anyone ever lynch someone because they think they are scummy?

UNVOTE:

this post is also town as balls

BTW, I'd really like an explanation on this because everything about this post pings.

-Ank

This post is expressing a deep frustration that no one is listening to him and the unvote is the manifestation of his frustration. If he were scum, this would be him going balls out to lynch someone no one wants to lynch. I don't think that's what this is. Why does it ping for you?

[50 Shades of Purple]

Going to leave my vote where it is for now. Going to look at a few other players as I have tunneled Sthar enough for now.

i'm confused

[50 Shades of Purple]

but I totally get why you think he is scummy

i guess i'm just a big dummy because i sure as hell don't

[50 Shades of Purple]

So, I've got home. First of all, as I promised, I would explain why I scumread "early lurkers".

don't care, there's nothing alignment indicative about being a lazy fuck
it's also better to scumread people for actual reasons once people start posting

[50 Shades of Purple]

Anenien kind of seems like the type of guy that really likes to hear himself talk even if he's not necessarily saying much.

yep!

[50 Shades of Purple]

Also, Mollie, MTD is town in my opinion. Or at least, so far the first one who voted for me in a game because of my fluff has been always town so far.

this is such a strange piece of reasoning i can't help but take a moment to appreciate it
it's incorrect, but it's a beautiful thing anen

[50 Shades of Purple]

mtd would also be a pretty acceptable vote

this would be a good vote!!!

[50 Shades of Purple]

deathstare

this would be a good read to reverse!!!!!

[50 Shades of Purple]

but yeah
the recent activityfromMTDhas been really
active lurky

truth, this.

I'm kinda out of this right now, will do some reading.

vote death stare

[50 Shades of Purple]

ok guys that was a fun catchup

Vote: MTD

death stare can live until tomorrow if he's sheeping me and also i might be wrong about him although i don't really have a townread there

[GrayFoxxxx]

Going to leave my vote where it is for now. Going to look at a few other players as I have tunneled Sthar enough for now.

i'm confused

I'm comfortable with my vote on him, but I need to stop tunneling him and see if I can find a stronger scum read.

[50 Shades of Purple]

i admittedly didn't read grey fox's posts very closely but the conviction and indignation alone seems town enough

[50 Shades of Purple]

Going to leave my vote where it is for now. Going to look at a few other players as I have tunneled Sthar enough for now.

i'm confused

I'm comfortable with my vote on him, but I need to stop tunneling him and see if I can find a stronger scum read.

the better scumreads you were looking for are MTD and death stare
feel free to vote one at your leisure

[Death Stare]

I didn't support the vote because he was wrong, but because he looked like he was taking advantage of the situation.

Was he from a position to take advantage of the situation as a new player who is not familiar with the site, who is not familiar with any of us as players, and has absolutely no reputation to add that extra "oomph" to his words? No. Does he seem like the type of player who believes he could easily ascend to that type of position? No.

I don't like to bring outside influences into situations. I take them as they are. If my observations from that alone are insufficient, then I will amend them as they come.

I didn't notice that he only had around 100 posts, though. That makes the above case basically null, but I still don't like some of the posts he's made since then.

Like what?

I don't need to revote because I know the wagon is going to go nowhere. I am trying to find another person of whom i think is scum.

A lot of people already scum read you [Death Stare] so I see no point to pursue that either. I also feel like you [Death Stare] have more than 2 votes on you but the votecount says otherwise.

These two are a big one.

For someone who was so gung-ho about trying to get someone lynched, it's kind of bizarre that after they get frustrated and drop that entire case, they would be very hesitant to go for their other scumread (btw, the scumread on us is one he's been stating for most of the game) that would be much more likely to get a promising wagon going. It's even weirder that the fact that a wagon already exists would be a reason to not join on.

The dissonance is a red flag.