Micro 395: Role Roll Mafia (Game Over)

[wgeurts]

wgeurts, what's your history with mafia?

2 games before this on another forum and 4 ongoing games here.
I am a town PR, to put it like that and the second Marucham found out about this he's pounced on me, I believe I made a big mistake here which I can't undo as I seriously believe Marucham is scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

wgeurts, what's your history with mafia?

2 games before this on another forum and 4 ongoing games here.
I am a town PR, to put it like that and the second Marucham found out about this he's pounced on me, I believe I made a big mistake here which I can't undo as I seriously believe Marucham is scum.

*sigh*
Never claim PR on day 1.

We're not lynching Wgeurts today.
We're not lynching Lissa today.

Maruchan, maybe.
I want to hear from everyone else.

[RottenChef]

Hi guys

So, catch up post.:

Have we really got three wagons in day 1?

First up, this post seems slightly unnatural. Other people have pointed this out and says he was finding it funny. So it was probably just the wording and I'm inclines to believe him.

Why do you think fuzzy is scum?

This also feels weird. He just said 'lynch my mason-partner' and you think he thinks he's scum?

Yolo, could you get an avi please? It makes it easier to distinguish between people. Thanks

I agree with my predecessor on the negative comment bit but as `I already said there is nothing wrong with wgeurts explanation.

Something I can't put my finger on that just feels fake.

I know you can't put your finger on it, but could you quote the post you found fake (I realise this is in the past)

I like Yoloswag.

yakno, I don't like wgeurt either. He's trying to direct my vote, and force a towny read on him. hmmmmmm

VOTE: wgeurt

Explain. I've not seen anything from him trying to direct your vote.

Bins was waffling about his post. Feels like townie overexplaining things to me.

I don't like 111 and 118 by wgeurts. 111 was a bit strange for me - he unvoted and said he'd analyse posts, but he didn't say he had a townread of any sort. Seems a bit pointless. 118 was worse for me though - pointless speculation what he'd just said. I kinda agree with farside on him basically posting nothing.

I didn't like Lissa's attempt to justify her read on wgeurts but then she completely changes her mind... seems townish.

I thought it was pretty easy to tell the mason thing was a joke maruchan?

Did you think that they'd be claiming masons from pg 1 (and they didn't claim neighbours which you claimed so it wouldn't work)

I agree with fuzzy on the maruchan things and wgeurts post does implicate maruchan somewhat.

Are you allowed to quote your pt?

I don't like the need maruchan dead post though.

Ok. That was stupid. wgeurt's town but that was stupid. I do scumread maruchan now though.

[farside22]

Rotten chef: I explained the fake feeling here

If I had a desk I would be smacking my head on it after reading wgeurt last few post.

Fuzzy: can you explain the town read on Lisa? I get the she is explaining thing, but that's all pretty null stuff.

[farside22]

I didn't like Lissa's attempt to justify her read on wgeurts but then she completely changes her mind... seems townish.

I felt opposite. It read like her reason was fake to being with and then realized it wasn't good so changed her views.

Ie: a read you had with reason with quotes means you read it that way. Reevaluate usually is when someone questions reads. Town I notice tend to be stubborn till a discussion happens or blind.

[RottenChef]

Rotten chef: I explained the fake feeling here

Yeah I know. I forgot to remove it after I saw your explanation. Sorry.

I didn't like Lissa's attempt to justify her read on wgeurts but then she completely changes her mind... seems townish.

I felt opposite. It read like her reason was fake to being with and then realized it wasn't good so changed her views.

Ie: a read you had with reason with quotes means you read it that way. Reevaluate usually is when someone questions reads. Town I notice tend to be stubborn till a discussion happens or blind.

For me it kind of felt like she had reread the posts and genuinely changed her mind which I thought was townish. It's all in how she did it.

But you had questioned her read? So she reread the posts and changed her mind.

[farside22]

I could be used to stubborn/blind people.
I'll think about it and reread the back and forth

[fuzzybutternut]

For me it kind of felt like she had reread the posts and genuinely changed her mind which I thought was townish. It's all in how she did it.

Basically this. I mean, I can see scum doing this, but I don't think this came from scum.

[The Bulge]

@Mod - Please replace me. I'm taking an indefinite hiatus from playing. Sorry all.

[Maruchan]

@Maruchan
How is he directing your vote or trying to force

you

/people to townread him?

I didn't say people. I said me. Hes targeting me specifically.

I actually did say you. What you had said was vague so I wasn't sure what you meant. You still didn't answer my question, though. How is he targeting

you

specifically.

Also,
I'm not actually claiming mason. Or neighbor. It was a joke, because I was mason partners in our previous game together.

I thought that was clear since nobody had pointed it out earlier when I first made the joke on page 1.

i did answer your question. Je's making posts that are fake-seeming towards trying to force townreads on each other.

[Maruchan]

Votecount 1.04

Maruchan (2)

: X88B88, Lissa

wgeurts (1)

: Edosurist

Lissa (1)

: The Bulge

farside22 (1)

: yoloswag123

X88B88 (1)

: farside22

Edosurist (1)

: Maruchan

Not Voting (2)

: fuzzybutternut, wgeurts

Notes

: X88B88 is being replaced.

Deadline

: The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2014-10-09 23:05:30).

p sure i'm voting wgeurts
VOTE: wgeurts

[Maruchan]

I'm just really not liking how he is framing me, I'm trying to spark discussion in the neighbour thread and he goes and tries to kill me. He better post a reasonable defence and then I may rethink but for now my vote will sut on him as to pressure him into reacting. Reactions always have the best info.

just seemed fake. /shrug

[fuzzybutternut]

@Mod - Please replace me. I'm taking an indefinite hiatus from playing. Sorry all.

Sad to see you go man. Hope everything is alright with you and I look forward to playing with you again in the future.

[Maruchan]

Actually I want to question lissa once more. What are your thoughts on maru now that he's explained his reason for "forcing" a townread vote. Also fuzzy how does it feel like an opportunistic approach?

It feels opportunistic because he immediately jumped to the conclusion that we're scum instead of analyzing the situation and realizing it was a joke.
Scum do things like that to make it look like they're scumhunting so they look more town-like.

at first i thought it was a joke, but then when you asked for information, then changed your mind and said give me that information out-of-gamethread, and he followed up just saying ok, without giving you the information, and you not asking for the information, made it imply you truly DID have an out-of-gamethread-communications means

[Maruchan]

Removed ~Micc

Pretty sure this is breaking rules...

Mod?

[fuzzybutternut]

Alright,

VOTE: Maruchan

He's trying to justify it now.

P-Edit: What's "breaking the rules" about that?

[Maruchan]

wgeurts, what's your history with mafia?

2 games before this on another forum and 4 ongoing games here.
I am a town PR, to put it like that and the second Marucham found out about this he's pounced on me, I believe I made a big mistake here which I can't undo as I seriously believe Marucham is scum.

he claimed 5 in neighborhood talk.

5 is vanilla neighbor


scum caught.

/endgame.

dav back me up broski.

[Maruchan]

Alright,

VOTE: Maruchan

He's trying to justify it now.

P-Edit: What's "breaking the rules" about that?

quoting game-related topics that aren't THE public game topic, isn't that typically against the rules?

[fuzzybutternut]

wgeurts, what's your history with mafia?

2 games before this on another forum and 4 ongoing games here.
I am a town PR, to put it like that and the second Marucham found out about this he's pounced on me, I believe I made a big mistake here which I can't undo as I seriously believe Marucham is scum.

he claimed 5 in neighborhood talk.

5 is vanilla neighbor


scum caught.

/endgame.

dav back me up broski.

All of this is heresay and like I said before, we're not lynching him today. We don't lynch claimed PRs D1. Period. End of story.

[Maruchan]

VOTE: Maruchan

When I flip town, Lynch All Liars. Weugerts claimed 5 in neighborhood thread, and is now claiming he is 6.

LaL
LaL Shall Prevail.

[Maruchan]

Since mod posted since he quoted our neighborhood, I might as well right?

Removed ~Micc

[Micc]

The following rule has been adjusted to make it explicitly clear that private communication may not be quoted in the game thread.

You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.

Since it was previously unclear what was allowed to be quoted, I will refrain from taking severe action at this time.

Both wgeurts and Maruchan are being sternly warned

that quoting private communication is not allowed.

Any future violations of this rule from any player will result in a modkill

. Any questions players might have regarding this situation should be directed at me via PM.

[Micc]

The Bulge is being replaced.

[Maruchan]

So I'm a derp.

5 is the PR.

I thought I was a five, and I have no PR.

UNVOTE:

Yeah. Square One. All my scummy reads are retarded.

[Maruchan]

(by ^^^, I meant I thought I was 5, but i wasn't I was 6, and he had claimed 5, which i thought was same as me, because I was an idiot. Also, Dav knows PRs are not alignment-dependent right?)