Open 573: C9++

[wgeurts]

God, we really need to make a desicion instead of endless squabbles.

[davesaz]

God, we really need to make a desicion instead of endless squabbles.

Who do you think is scum? The way you ask others to solve the case very strongly implies that you just want a bandwagon to ride. That's a scum behavior and is going to get you lynched if you don't change quickly.

[massive]

I think honestly it's the progression of your read on wguerts that is worrying to me. Unlike Monkey who immediately jumped on, your read has progressed from "hey, maybe they do it differently on someothersite.com" (122) to "I don't like being called bloodthirsty" (201) to "having a guy scum reaction" (334). AND on top of that, you try and tie your earlier wguerts opinion retroactively back into thinking he's scummy (see 525), when none of your earlier interaction with him reads as you thinking he's scummy at all.

Why are you pretending like I wasn't voting him in 83?

It's a throwaway vote and you spend the whole post talking about how Death Stare is scummy and not wguerts. Are you saying you want us to believe you found wguerts legitimately scummy at this point?

Are you kidding me right now? The first sentence of 83 is me saying why I disliked wegurts post. The only part about DS was the last sentence. I don't think town would misrep me like that. You are also implying that I'm scum but not using your words. None of that comes from town.

I'm saying first we should pressure them to see how they react and base our judgement off that.

but we WERE pressuring Death Stare so you're saying pressure someone besides Death Stare?

What did you think of his reaction to getting wagoned?

meh, Death Stare is still prob scum though but sure

vote:wgerts

[wgeurts]

Because I've completely lost the argument from off page 20 something, I'm new and I'm honestly confused. I'll try and post something usefull tommorow as today I have little time.

[Nero Cain]

so you have no scum reads right?

[davesaz]

Cough. 746

[Nero Cain]

says the man who ignored why I was voting Mollie...TWICE!

[wgeurts]

so you have no scum reads right?

Yeah, I do:
Monkey

[wgeurts]

so you have no scum reads right?

Yeah, I do:
Monkey And 50 Shades

[Nero Cain]

Can you remind me why you think 50 is scum?

[Heartless]

Spoiler:

I think honestly it's the progression of your read on wguerts that is worrying to me. Unlike Monkey who immediately jumped on, your read has progressed from "hey, maybe they do it differently on someothersite.com" (122) to "I don't like being called bloodthirsty" (201) to "having a guy scum reaction" (334). AND on top of that, you try and tie your earlier wguerts opinion retroactively back into thinking he's scummy (see 525), when none of your earlier interaction with him reads as you thinking he's scummy at all.

Why are you pretending like I wasn't voting him in 83?

It's a throwaway vote and you spend the whole post talking about how Death Stare is scummy and not wguerts. Are you saying you want us to believe you found wguerts legitimately scummy at this point?

Are you kidding me right now? The first sentence of 83 is me saying why I disliked wegurts post. The only part about DS was the last sentence. I don't think town would misrep me like that. You are also implying that I'm scum but not using your words. None of that comes from town.

I'm saying first we should pressure them to see how they react and base our judgement off that.

but we WERE pressuring Death Stare so you're saying pressure someone besides Death Stare?

What did you think of his reaction to getting wagoned?

meh, Death Stare is still prob scum though but sure

vote:wgerts

ok, yes

you're proving my point for me...

[davesaz]

says the man who ignored why I was voting Mollie...TWICE!

And is now saying that reason is bullshit. Try another reason, or hang.

[Heartless]

Misinterpretation =/= misrepresentation. Does everyone think that Massive's case was a (1) blatant misinterpretation or an (2) intentional misrepresentation?

oh hey anen

sooooo TTH tells me she thinks you're town and when i talk to her tonight i'm going to ask her why and
JUST REVEL IN THE ENSUING SILENCE

IT'LL BE SO

MUCH

FUN

[Heartless]

massive

walk me through your case like i'm an

amoeba

because with thing you're pointing to right now saying "there's no scum-read on wgeurts" it looks EXACTLY like a scumread on wgeurts to me. plus, scum motivation and context would help because that looks lacking.

[Jingle]

I am replacing Stavrogin for failing to pick up his prod.

Prodding GrayFoxxxx.

[50 Shades of Purple]

So that one summarizes to

Because we are an easy mislynch, monkey is more town for not pushing for our lynch immediately.
what the hell?

It doesn't make sense to call monkey town for pushing an easy mislynch.
It doesn't make sense to call monkey scum for not pushing an easy mislynch.

[50 Shades of Purple]

Like idgi
Maybe I'm just being sleep deprived but where did you even get the idea of us being an easy mislynch and monkey had that as a possibility when expressed his scumread on us?

You had more votes than anyone else.

[50 Shades of Purple]

ok

so i'm slogging thought death stare and the monkeyman push is meh
but it didn't bring me any closer to getting on the same page with nacho

where's the center of gravity of nacho's hate?

At what point were you slogging through that ISO and you came to something where you were like "you know what? I like this post. That is a good point/genuine push and gosh darn it, I think you are town for it"??? I never came to that point. I never came to that point and every post of Death Stare's is like waiting for my father to take me on the fishing trip he promised.

[50 Shades of Purple]

You don't know, as in you're not suspicious of Death Stare anymore or... what? This recent post makes me think you still think Death Stare is scum, that's why I even asked about it in the first place.

idk as in I'm doubting myself. All of Massive, sthar, dave look really scummy and Mollie hydra and wegurts are still p suspicious to me. Stav is a totes unknown. That's already six and I'm more confident that scum is in the first 5 so GIF gets a pass today.

Going "x player always calls me scum so player calling me town means they are scum" is bad reasoning unless you can back it up, which you can't,

True story, I once lynched scumMuffin for the same thing. There is an ongoing element so I don't want to talk to much about this but it is a good idea to go through my games. What happens if I go through my games and find that Mollie calls me town as scum and scum as town?

Wait-oh. Have I misread Nero so far?
I've checked those posts and his votes. It seems that while he's voting for a player he keeps posting why another player is scum instead of giving arguments why the voted one is scum. Am I making out things of nothing again?

I really hate this post though. You are blindly agreeing with Massive's really bad push. I mean there's more than 1 scum in this game and I'm going to answer questions directed at me so I don't see how you can think that me answering a question about why I had voted player X but my vote is on player Y. Singular and or limited scumhunting is the hallmark of scum.

True story: you once lynched scum muffin based on this tell and also Mollie is scum for ongoing games. Do you realize why this interaction frustrates me or am I being completely obnoxious and ridiculous here?

[Nero Cain]

I'm being completely obnoxious and ridiculous here

^^^^^

[50 Shades of Purple]

idk as in I'm doubting myself. All of Massive, sthar, dave look really scummy and Mollie hydra and wegurts are still p suspicious to me. Stav is a totes unknown. That's already six and I'm more confident that scum is in the first 5 so GIF gets a pass today.

sthar? Why is sthar scummy?

I'd also be happy if tth talked to me and not just Mollie but I guess I don't matter to anyone :'(

But I do want to talk to you! You're an enigma to me, nacho. I'm just not very good at this game and I don't know what to ask.
What's so striking to me is how you and Anti seem to be on two different wavelengths, though. I need to touch base with him again to ask him what he thinks of your posting from today.

-TTH

What do you think of Death Stare? What do you think of Grey Foxxxxx?

[50 Shades of Purple]

vote:Death Stare

<---is voting scum and you should help me kill it

Nero, in post game, I am going to quote the shit out of this post as an example of Nero playing well before everything went downhill

[50 Shades of Purple]

I didn't read the Amen wall but that vote was bad, please don't vote like that

[Nero Cain]

What do you think of Death Stare? What do you think of Grey Foxxxxx?

nullscum and null

What do you think of Massive, wegurts and shatr?

[50 Shades of Purple]

I'm saying first we should pressure them to see how they react and base our judgement off that.

but we WERE pressuring Death Stare so you're saying pressure someone besides Death Stare?

What did you think of his reaction to getting wagoned?

meh, Death Stare is still prob scum though but sure

vote:wgerts

Massive, this is more than enough evidence for me that Nero started with a scumread on wg so I am quite confused what point you're trying to make.