Hey Shea, are you still buying up VMA Power? I impulse-bought a VMA pack while buying my prerelease tag and opened an Ancestral Recall (also a Berserk, but that's less exciting)
I only do drafts on MTGO, and even then, only about once a week. I definitely empathize with people who have issues, and the issues are really bad, but I don't have them myself because of how rarely I play, and I kinda feel bad that I don't get as ragey as others about MTGO in general.
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jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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very much a liberal now
Hascow/Cow are acceptable shortened names, never "Has"
There's a lot of talk about it being bork'd in Modern, and there, unbanning BBE or something for the non-blue fair decks I think would fix the problem.
I'd say DRS because that card is actually pretty solid against Treasure Cruise, but then we run into BGx v UR Delver v Jeskai Ascendency v Burn and that does not sound like a fun metagame!
Ascendency should be banned, though. I dunno. I've watched a couple pros play the deck now and it is probably just busted. It draws though the deck at such a rate that bolting a bird doesn't work(if they don't just play Caryatid), plays seven copies of Ascendency so you can easily get them. Mana dorks get around Blood Moon, Wishboard lets it get through any sort of hate. I usually try to be lenient on bans, but this deck is way too strong. It's kinda a shame, because I like the deck.
I don't think treasure cruise needs to get banned in legacy. It seems pretty similar to me in use in terms of the time of the game you can use it to ancestral visions but is worse because you cant agent into it. It depletes resources fast enough that you can't reasonably play 2 in one turn very early in the game and creates some interesting tensions because most of the decks that want that sort of effect have some sort of graveyard interaction that they're already dependent on (team america: other delve cards, RUG delver: nimble mongoose and goyf, storm: past in flames shenanigans. BUG decks: Deathrite shaman and Goyf)
Time will tell though, and I haven't done any testing with it and haven't really played it in anything yet.
In post 4741, Natirasha wrote:There's a lot of talk about it being bork'd in Modern, and there, unbanning BBE or something for the non-blue fair decks I think would fix the problem.
I'd say DRS because that card is actually pretty solid against Treasure Cruise, but then we run into BGx v UR Delver v Jeskai Ascendency v Burn and that does not sound like a fun metagame!
Ascendency should be banned, though. I dunno. I've watched a couple pros play the deck now and it is probably just busted. It draws though the deck at such a rate that bolting a bird doesn't work(if they don't just play Caryatid), plays seven copies of Ascendency so you can easily get them. Mana dorks get around Blood Moon, Wishboard lets it get through any sort of hate. I usually try to be lenient on bans, but this deck is way too strong. It's kinda a shame, because I like the deck.
I'm fully expecting Jeskai Ascendancy to get banned out in January if it starts consistently putting up results like it appears to. Either it or Glittering Wish will get the boot, I think.
I suspect it is fine in legacy too - it requires some turns to set up, restricts your deck building choices to a certain degree. Pretty great in fair matchups, but there are many cards that fit that description.
Modern though, every time I've seen people playing the card it has added raw power to the deck. I also suspect that it is the real reason the ascendancy deck is so hyped, and the deck would be way easier to disrupt without it. Like, the plan of grind it out with bolts and decays and thoughtseizes becomes a lot more realistic if they can't just topdeck a draw 3.
I strongly suspect that if you ban ascendancy or wish, some other deck running treasure cruise starts crushing people.
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Glittering wish might be the answer, since without it the deck loses quite a bit of its consistency. It's a 3rd turn kill probably around 50% of the time right now, I think axing wish lowers that number considerably.
I agree with that! While this deck is nowhere to the level Eggs was(I don't think you'd see Kibler f6ing then walking away from the table), it is not really conducive to the type of magic Wizards want to be on a high level--they banned Seething Song for a similar reason(Even though they'll never say it).
