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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:46 am

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If you're both town then self-voting is pretty bad.

Self-voting is pretty bad if you're town regardless.
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:47 am

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Can you point out the contradiction you mentioned in my posts?
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:47 am

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In post 3001, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Can you point out the contradiction you mentioned in my posts?


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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:48 am

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AK, I had a strong town-read on you early on...however, it's steadily disintegrated as the game has progressed.

Can you do some towny things please?
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:52 am

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In post 3003, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:AK, I had a strong town-read on you early on...however, it's steadily disintegrated as the game has progressed.

Can you do some towny things please?


RL stuff plus another recently finished game that took up a lot of my mental energy had me occupied, but I'm ready to play for realz here again. I still don't like Boon's claim. I don't think Ruff or FG are scum but if they're insisting on a 1v1 (which I think is a stupid ego trip move) then I'm voting FG. I'd rather not vote either though. My townread on you has paid off and we avoided lynching you, so I hope you continue to give me the benefit of the doubt.
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:53 am

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Flubber, I have a newfound respect for you as a town player - can you summarize your reads?
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:56 am

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In post 2995, FakeGod wrote:TTH, I am confident in my scumread, enough to risk my life on it.

I don't know what else I can do to show my conviction.


It's not a question of conviction, it's a question of accuracy. I think there's something wrong here for a couple reasons.

One is that, even with the number of claims that were out there at the time, Green Crayons was chosen for the night kill. I'm
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There's also the question of Boonskiies. I don't feel like his "no result" claim was really ever ironed out and with the amount of Rube Goldberg-esque theories about me being scum (and former theories about BBT being scum), I don't know why Boonskiies' claim is being so readily accepted at face value. By the way, Boonskiies is another person not voting and sitting on the sidelines while this Rufflig vs. FakeGod shouting match is playing out (see: Post 2985).
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:57 am

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Here's an example. It's almost as bad as Doogal's posts.
In post 2846, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Boonskies is my only real scumread. After that I guess Flub and TTH.

In post 2940, Anatole Kuragin wrote:1v1ing isn't pro-town. It's an ego trip.

In post 2941, Anatole Kuragin wrote:If it's between rufflig and FG I'm definitely voting FG.

I deduce from your scumreads (Boons, Flub, TTH) that you believe the 1v1 is occurring between two town players, as reflected by your post 2940.

Then you suddenly change your mind in 2941 and express your willingness in lynching one of the town players.

From the your views previous to that post, you should be against lynching either player, and you should be writing up town cases on both of them in order to drive the lynch toward one of your scumreads.

You have not done any of that.

Your 2941 contradicts all of the the previous posts you have made.
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:58 am

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In post 3005, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Flubber, I have a newfound respect for you as a town player - can you summarize your reads?

Why are you assuming Flubber is town when you had him in your scum-list not so long ago?
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:02 am

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Everyone hated on Boons at one point or another.

Scum has friends. Boons didn't.

And I don't see why scum would bus in d1 when there was a real possibility of getting a town lynch between Csareo and BBT.
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:03 am

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In post 3009, FakeGod wrote:Everyone hated on Boons at one point or another.

Scum has friends. Boons didn't.

And I don't see why scum would bus in d1 when there was a real possibility of getting a town lynch between Csareo and BBT.

Scum didn't have to bus. There is a huge difference between saying you
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doing it
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:04 am

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In post 3005, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Flubber, I have a newfound respect for you as a town player - can you summarize your reads?

Another contradiction.

You listed Flub as one of your scumreads in post 2846.
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:05 am

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In post 3010, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 3009, FakeGod wrote:Everyone hated on Boons at one point or another.

Scum has friends. Boons didn't.

And I don't see why scum would bus in d1 when there was a real possibility of getting a town lynch between Csareo and BBT.

Scum didn't have to bus. There is a huge difference between saying you
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Don't you remember when Boons got pushed to L-1 at a blink of an eye and was forced to claim?
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:05 am

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I believe Boon claimed way before L-1?
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:06 am

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I think it was L-3, maybe L-2.
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:06 am

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In post 1557, Bert wrote:
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Boonskiies (6)
– Anatole Kuragin, FakeGod, BlueBloodedToffee, massive, JaggedAppliance, TellTaleHeart
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– Flubbernugget, Csareo, Boonskiies, Doogal121, Wake88
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– Green Crayons
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– The Rufflig

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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:08 am

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I for one, want FakeGod lynched.

He's been acting strangely, and is one of my Scumreads.

If he votes himself, well, that's one thing Scum does to deny Town information.
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:08 am

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In post 3004, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 3003, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:AK, I had a strong town-read on you early on...however, it's steadily disintegrated as the game has progressed.

Can you do some towny things please?


RL stuff plus another recently finished game that took up a lot of my mental energy had me occupied, but I'm ready to play for realz here again. I still don't like Boon's claim. I don't think Ruff or FG are scum but if they're insisting on a 1v1 (which I think is a stupid ego trip move) then I'm voting FG. I'd rather not vote either though. My townread on you has paid off and we avoided lynching you, so I hope you continue to give me the benefit of the doubt.

Do you know what AK_scum would be doing right now?

He would be attempting to undermine the 1v1 to save his scumbuddy Rufflig, all while promising support to Rufflig in case plan A fell through.
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:09 am

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In post 3016, Wake1 wrote:I for one, want FakeGod lynched.

Put your vote down in your next post.
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:10 am

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FakeGod wrote:It was L-1.


And yet, even with the skepticism (or the "hate"), the wagon disintegrated and he wasn't lynched. The talk never translated to action.
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 am

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My gut's still bothering me about BBT, but I don't see how he can't be a Mason. I don't think there's anything in the 1 unique slot DP was given to do something insidious like that.

At least 4 other players are being very suspicious to me, and almost nobody is voting me or trying to dump suspicion on me. It's rather peculiar, and probably deliberate.
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 am

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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 am

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In post 3018, FakeGod wrote:
In post 3016, Wake1 wrote:I for one, want FakeGod lynched.

Put your vote down in your next post.

Wake, don't ignore me.
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:13 am

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In post 3019, TellTaleHeart wrote:
FakeGod wrote:It was L-1.


And yet, even with the skepticism (or the "hate"), the wagon disintegrated and he wasn't lynched. The talk never translated to action.

The tracker claimed destroyed the wagon.

He was going to be lynched otherwise.
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:14 am

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FG, you've been deliberately ignoring me much of the game.

It's something that you now tell me to not ignore
you
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