Through the Looking-Glass [Game Over]

[DeasVail]

*was quite odd

I'm referring to events of the previous day.

[Salamence20]

whee alice witchhunt, i have very fond memories of those!

And Im scum because?

Note: Im not voting you because youre an Alice. Im voting you because you have tried to get DV lynched by voting him in your first post yesterday and today.

[RedCoyote]

How confident are we that two Alices are scum? Are we just setup speculating because two of them are "fake"?

[RedCoyote]

Friendly neighbor

N1 targetted bins (crumbed by saying Hi Bins before the night went over, and not her first post of D2)

N2 I forgot to because lolinactibity

N3 I didn't crumb but targetted RC

Are you saying I was supposed to be in a neighborhood with you last night?

What does this role do?

[RedCoyote]

Because there's still a PR thing that happened last night that I do not understand and I don't really want to lynch until it is clarified. I don't want to say out loud what happened though I'm thinking it has to do with what notscience said in 2187.

[RedCoyote]

I'd kind of rather lynch Desperado today and go back to the Alice situation tomorrow. Everyone thinks Desperado is scum and I think even the scumteam is throwing him under the bus but trying to pivot toward lynching somewhere else... let me show examples of this:

Also, I am evaluating everything and Katsuki/Desp is my current scumteam idea, but I still have thinking to do.

But I digress--Salamence and probably Desperado.

By shear PoE we're looking at nati/sala/desp here I think.

I'm not saying these three players are all scum, but I do not think they're all town either. I think Desp is probably the weaker scum role/player left and is seen as more expendable so that's where I'd like us to go today.

[Desperado]

Or...I'm one of the several remaining players once the likely town claims are taken out of the lynchpool?

[Desperado]

Like, why are you saying scum are calling me scum but pivoting elsewhere and then starting with a quote from the uncced vig?

[Desperado]

And how many scum do you think are still alive???

[RedCoyote]

First question) Well, I guess that's a rhetorical question.
Second question) If you would've read the bottom of that post, I specifically said that I am not calling those three players scum, Desp. I'm just saying that everyone, town and scum alike, want you lynched. The town want you lynched because you're scummy (you've been hiding in the shadows this entire game and have no zest, ferocity or hutzpah whatsoever) and the scum team is probably throwing you under the bus for that same reason.
Third question) Don't know; don't care (at this point).

[Desperado]

Do you think FG put two groupscum in the same neighborhood?

[RedCoyote]

I'm not going to play outguess the mod with you. I don't even know which players you are a referring to, and you don't even know my scumreads beyond you (I would assume).

[Desperado]

It doesn't matter because both of my neighborhood mates are dead and gone and Tip flipped scum

[RedCoyote]

I thought you were a VT?

[RedCoyote]

Mmmmk

Red Knight, VT

[RedCoyote]

Oh, wait, I guess all the "reds" were in a neighborhood together, yeah?

[Desperado]

VOTE: Nachomamma8 due to Kat's claim. If Nacho is town, we can lynch Kat tomorrow.

A wise man once said to lynch all liars. :/

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Good thing I'm not wise!

VOTE: SleepyKrew

God help me, I like Kat's point better than SK's.

Empking is a bad lynch to rally around as a last minute thing, I think. Empking is the king of playing the same as both alignments. He's literally someone I aspire to be more like in that specific aspect play-wise. The reason I bring that up is because, as usual, I have no idea if this is scum or town Empking. Um, but I would say that someone that is as easy to understand and opinionated as Empking is is someone I would rather leave around longer. I think if we're playing with scumEmpking, he'll trip up eventually, so we don't need to take this chance.

I'm starting to become sort of one note in being supportive of only an SK lynch today. I do have a genuine scumread on Desp that I plan to look into (but I would be happy to see him lynched today). I am suspicious of Cho and Froot Loop, but I don't feel comfortable enough to pursue these leads at this time. I would be open to voting them, but I don't know or think the support is there.

UNVOTE: Salamence20; VOTE: zMuffinMan

DV sold me. Sal is like an abusive spouse... I just keep going back to him. Desp is probably bussing!

VOTE: Cho

I have done a 180 on Sal. I believe him now. I also think we should be following where Froot Loop/Konowa were going, even though that kill may have more or less been a duh kind of thing.

unvote;
Vote: Cho

Backwards thinking, yo.

Stepping outside of my tunnel for a while.

unvote;
Vote: Brian Skies

Questionable: katsuki, zMuffinMan, Cho, bins
Town-Lean: konowa, sleey krew, TiphaineDeath
Nothing: desperado, Brian, DeasVail, Empking, natirasha
Don't Know: nacho, notscience, redcoyote

I don't know what the difference is between Nothing and Don't Know, but here it is, anyway.

Cho/Bins/Brian.

I want to lynch one of these three players today.

VOTE: Brian Skies

Brian, why did you drop your power wagon on me? It seems like you kind of let it fall to the wayside as I go over your posts in isolation. Oddly enough, I was prepared to just go back on Cho, but Sal's shift forced me to look at you again. Your push on me and your push on DV both seem hollow and noisy-for-the-sake-of-being-noisy, if that makes sense.

Unvote
Vote: RedCoyote

Calling me out for hiding in the shadows and not showing any..."zest" when you have literally coasted on your hated claim all game, and every single one of your votes has a) been on town and b) been based on something someone else did, and you haven't even considered voting scum once all game, and you defended Emp, and you're even now being unnecessarily cagey about notscience confirming himself as town to you even though he already claimed it, is pretty hilarious.

[RedCoyote]

you have literally coasted on your hated claim all game

I know, isn't it great? It's so much less stress when you're essentially an IC, lol. You should try it sometime.

every single one of your votes has a) been on town

Except you conveniently left out my Sal vote. You even quoted me unvoting him!

b) been based on something someone else did

notscience is doing all the heavy lifting for me... how can I refuse that? Um, but, I disagree with the characterization. I would say I was a significant part in the Brian wagon, if not the main catalyst. Granted, the others were more influenced by others, but that's because things generally happened (I'm speaking to the SK and Nacho wagons) when I wasn't around early in this game because of the lol30pagestart.

you defended Emp

Big whoop, so did Brian and I even hit him on the head for that earlier. No one can read the guy (except, apparently, Nacho).

you're even now being unnecessarily cagey about notscience confirming himself as town to you even though he already claimed it

I'm trying to figure that out on my own. Unlike you, I don't know everyone's alignment, brother. I'm trying to get notscience to be crystal clear with how his role works. All of my posts today have had this theme in them. It's not unnecessary and it's not cagey. Goodness, do you see me voting notscience? Have you seen me say a cross word about notscience this entire game? He's my top damn townread and has been since, like, D1 (which I am on record as having said and can point out). Talk about a reach!

[Desperado]

Except you conveniently left out my Sal vote. You even quoted me unvoting him!

Did I miss Sala's scumflip?

Big whoop, so did Brian and I even hit him on the head for that earlier. No one can read the guy (except, apparently, Nacho).

hahahahahaha

Are you seriously comparing Brian's one line challenge on Nacho on page 6 to the fucking soliloquy you wrote urging us to give Emp more time?

I'm trying to figure that out on my own. Unlike you, I don't know everyone's alignment, brother. I'm trying to get notscience to be crystal clear with how his role works. All of my posts today have had this theme in them. It's not unnecessary and it's not cagey. Goodness, do you see me voting notscience? Have you seen me say a cross word about notscience this entire game? He's my top damn townread and has been since, like, D1 (which I am on record as having said and can point out). Talk about a reach!

Notscience doesn't need to be any clearer about his role. He's a friendly neighbor. That's a role that does a specific thing that he has already claimed to have done to you.

[RedCoyote]

Don't be thick.

every single one of your votes has a) been on town

Sal hasn't flipped, so that accusation is false. Period. That you didn't retract it immediately is suspect. Are you that hard up to try and get me lynched? I know you're desperate and I know you want to take advantage of me because I'm hated, but lol.

Are you seriously comparing Brian's one line challenge on Nacho on page 6 to the fucking soliloquy you wrote urging us to give Emp more time?

Being wrong /= being scum. By the way, why don't you show us all your Empking vote? Oh, wait, you don't have one and you never came out against Empking...

Notscience doesn't need to be any clearer about his role. He's a friendly neighbor. That's a role that does a specific thing that he has already claimed to have done to you.

This doesn't concern you, Desp. I want to talk to notscience. I've never even played with a "friendly neighbor" before.

[Desperado]

Sal hasn't flipped, so that accusation is false. Period. That you didn't retract it immediately is suspect. Are you that hard up to try and get me lynched? I know you're desperate and I know you want to take advantage of me because I'm hated, but lol.

Being wrong /= being scum. By the way, why don't you show us all your Empking vote? Oh, wait, you don't have one and you never came out against Empking...

Why do we have an SK wagon again?

RC summarized the case literally on this page.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SK

{Emp, Deas, Tiphaine, Bins, Sala}

^Pretty sure if we just lynch from here the game will end eventually.

Can we just do Emp today then?

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 4.3

Katsuki [2] - Natirasha, Salamence20
Salamence20 [1] - Katsuki
RedCoyote [1] - Desperado

Not Voting [3]

- DeasVail, RedCoyote, notscience

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

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Deadline is October 16, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-10-16 12:00:00)

[Salamence20]

Red were you in another hood? Yes or no?

Also, if you were in his hood, FG has to tell you he is town if he is Friendly Neighbor.

Also, That ability can't exist with my ability, right? Two town neighborizers? Odd. Unless KATS wants to come out and claim that all three Alice's are neighborizers.

[Salamence20]

I mean, it's really (x1000) odd for FG to put a positive town role in this game.

[Salamence20]

2 goons 1-2 unkown mafia roles.

Neighborizer, Friendly Neighbor, Hated, hindered cop, Mason/lovers.