Through the Looking-Glass [Game Over]

Katsuki · Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:16 am

So I'm sitting here waiting for a call and thus far they're 15mins late for my phone interview...

Katsuki · Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:58 am

so an hr later and still no call wtf zzzzzzzzzz

RedCoyote · Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:49 pm

In post 2272, Salamence20 wrote:Red were you in another hood? Yes or no?

Also, if you were in his hood, FG has to tell you he is town if he is Friendly Neighbor.

Also, That ability can't exist with my ability, right? Two town neighborizers? Odd. Unless KATS wants to come out and claim that all three Alice's are neighborizers.

I was waiting for ns to clarify, but given what I know, I guess I don't really need him to talk. It looks as though whatever notscience did to me was his doing and not anyone elses given the claims we had. notscience's power gave me indisputable, mod-confirmed evidence that notscience is 100% confirmed town due to information I received overnight.

The reason I was waiting to say this was because I thought another player may have had a cop power of some sort that would only work for another player (e.g. player X investigates player Y but the results are shown to player Z). Maybe like a Mad Hatter role or something (I don't know the theme very well). Since no one claimed anything like that, and given ns' strange PR, and given the lack of me being in a neighborhood with ns last night, I can only conclude that whatever ns did was what caused the mod to give me this report.

In any event, that's all I had. If you want my opinion, let's rid ourselves of Desp and force the Alice situation to linger another night just to see what the scum do. Because it seems to me like the scum wouldn't want to kill me (hated) nor would the want to kill notscience. I guess DV would probably eat it by default, but still... I'm more confident that Desp is scum than I am deciding between Sal/Kat (unless it's both).

I do know I will not vote notscience or DV today under any circumstances. This is probably obvious, but I just wanted it to be out there.

Salamence20 · Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:53 pm

VOTE: Desp

Annoint: Kats and NS

FakeGod · Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:57 pm

VoteCount 4.4

Katsuki [1] - Natirasha
Salamence20 [1] - Katsuki
RedCoyote [1] - Desperado
Desperado [1] - Salamence20

Not Voting [3]

- DeasVail, RedCoyote, notscience

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

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Deadline is October 16, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-10-16 12:00:00)

DeasVail · Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:24 pm

In post 2246, DeasVail wrote:
In post 2245, Katsuki wrote:Also are you a full vig or a partial vig? This is an important question.

Can you say why it's important before I answer?

Also, what do you mean by 'vanilla'?

It was evidently very important to you.

RedCoyote · Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:34 am

Anyway, I guess I don't need anything else.

VOTE: Desperado

Holler if you want me.

Natirasha · Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:06 am

I don't feel good about a Desperado lynch and I don't know why!

Salamence20 · Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:11 am

You felt good about a muffin lynch and we know how that went.

Desperado · Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:36 am

In post 2282, Natirasha wrote:I don't feel good about a Desperado lynch and I don't know why!

Probably something to do with me being town.

Natirasha · Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:41 am

In post 2283, Salamence20 wrote:You felt good about a muffin lynch and we know how that went.

Shut up, scum!

Salamence20 · Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:09 am

In post 2285, Natirasha wrote:
In post 2283, Salamence20 wrote:You felt good about a muffin lynch and we know how that went.

Shut up, scum!

In post 2284, Desperado wrote:
In post 2282, Natirasha wrote:I don't feel good about a Desperado lynch and I don't know why!

Probably something to do with me being town.

Lol & lol

Katsuki · Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:09 am

In post 2249, DeasVail wrote:Also, Katsuki's really strong desire to lynch me depsite my claim that I could potentially prove myself to be town is quite odd and makes me think he's scum faking confidence.

yeah because I'm definitely going to listen to my scumread when they softclaim "information" that "clears" them.

Katsuki · Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:10 am

This brings up another point htat I was pondering while in bed: Do we know for sure that the setup is like last game and that it's 14/3? Because if it's a 13/4 split (which is quite possible with this amount of power compared with lack of scum power thus far), then if we mislynch today then we lose if RC is a hated townie.

Desperado · Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:16 am

Don't worry, if there are 2 scum left then it is definitely RC/Sala.

Natirasha · Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:29 am

Not me anymore, Desp?

Desperado · Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:15 am

It's never been you?

DeasVail · Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:24 am

Vote: Katsuki

A few reasons, but if his role is what I think it is, I don't understand why it's a town role.

Katsuki · Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:28 am

dear fucking god your townplay is terrible

Katsuki · Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:32 am

Anyways I think this is the only play for today.

Vote: RC

DeasVail · Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:39 am

Also, I've decided that I'm no longer going to be using my role, so I will describe it in full.

I am The Jabberwock, Town Monster.

I am a compulsory vanilla vig. This means that I have to target someone every night, but my kill only goes through if the target is a vanilla townie or mafia goon. I love my role and it's very interesting. If I hadn't gotten lucky and killed what were probably the only 2 mafia goons in the game on the first two nights, I was planning to use it to catch out fakeclaims and whatnot. If I targeted a mafia PR, they didn't die and then claimed vanilla townie, we could all say bye to that scummy scum. Now, however, I believe there are 2 scum left, but I don't think there are any mafia goons left, so my kill only works if the target is town. This is why I can't kill RC, and Night 3 I just targeted notscience because he was softing PR a lot and I was pretty confident he wasn't VT.

This brings to me Katsuki. I consider my role a cool one that has a couple of applications this game. Katsuki's on the other hand, doesn't do a great deal at all for town. The only application is if scum just happens to target a VT and he does too, which is kind of boring imo. Compared to my vanilla role I just don't understand why it's included in the set-up. My thought was that it made much more sense as a scum role to protect against my kills, but I'm not sure how much sense that makes either because TD died, so I'm beginning to believe he has some other vanilla role and that vanilla doc is a fakeclaim? I'm going around in circles here hmm. I need to think. I just can't get past how boring Katsuki's claimed vanilla role is compared to mine.

DeasVail · Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:40 am

In post 2293, Katsuki wrote:dear fucking god your townplay is terrible

You could at least refute me.

Katsuki · Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:58 am

That would require words, and since your line of thinking is already off I'd rather not waste my time on it.

You'd think you would've learned something from your muffin push and if you didn't then I pray for you since your claim is the only thing that kept me from perma-voting you.

Vanilla vig... that's interesting, I was amused at how useless and potentially negative my role was given amount of power we ended up having claim and two flipped goons but a vanilla vig???

I can see it making sense in that my role softens your role somewhat, town is too powerful as is, what with so many that can't die by your hands, and yet scum are so vulnerable. I DO want to come back to this though because it's not making sense that FG would just give town a vig that has 0 consequences to town, even with my role being in this game.

Also I highly dislike how hard you're pushing my lynch when it's possible that we can lose today. Either way I don't have much to gain from talking to you because every single thing you post strikes me as incredibly scummy, and the only thing from you that isn't dripping with scum motivation is the two kills on empking and TD.

I'll ask you this since you're so intent on me being scum. If I were a scum vanilla doc, assuming the setup is 14/3, the TD kill would never have gone through, as he'd be the only possible target for me. Assuming the setup is 13/4, then the only plausible explanation for a TD kill is that if I had another partner who is vanilla, which leaves me scum with nati or desp. If that were the case I can guarantee you that I would never have brought up the problem regarding RC's hated role having to be lynched today because I could just push some other mislynch and you guys would be surprised that the game is over due to RC only taking two scum votes to lynch D5.

Think it through. I took the time to actually type something out for you even though I hadn't planned on it. If you still think that I'm scum then there's nothing I can really say except that aside from the two lucky shots you took, your play is terrible.

DeasVail · Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:07 am

Unvote

Desperado · Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:24 pm

In post 2292, DeasVail wrote:
Vote: Katsuki

A few reasons, but if his role is what I think it is, I don't understand why it's a town role.

Instead of making all of the town PRs Macho, FG just made the doc unable to target all of them.

Seems pretty elegant to me. Why couldn't you get there?