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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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I'm learning j4, too, but I was rather underwhelmed by him
I want to know what a j4 expert usesMy favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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I don't play ARAM
sorzMy favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Saki Jack of All Trades
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In post 36301, FakeGod wrote:I'm learning j4, too, but I was rather underwhelmed by him
I want to know what a j4 expert uses
QE
EQflashretired
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Saki Jack of All Trades
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or if you're me
Flash R W E Qretired
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BROseidon Expert Marxman
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Same masteries. Runes are same except all MR/lvl blues (Scaling is more relevant than taking slightly less damage on some ganks. Breakeven point is early enough that the slight deficit in an early dragon fight is a relatively small tradeoff). Clear order is bot side buff->WRAITHS->top side buff (going for wraiths is better because e+q+auto kills the small ones, so you can auto big->small->small->small->big for optimal clear time). Gank top after that if you're confident you'll get there first or that you can win the 2v2 if you arrive at the same time.
After that, go around ganking shit. J4 has a lot of pathing tricks he can use to bypass common ward placements, and your ganks are consistently some of the strongest in the game. Rush Elder Lizard, then build full tank. Proceed to be more useful in team fights than pretty much all of the other popular junglers (J4 is the most versatile jungler in team fights, with the ability to initiate and peel at a high to top tier level)-
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This is a completely valid initiation pattern if your team is in position to follow up.
E->Q outranges flash, so you can follow with the knock up after they flash out of your ult.-
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In post 36299, animorpherv1 wrote:As someone is learning j4, who is also not BRO:
21/9/0, AD reds, armor yellows, mix of MR/level and MR blues, AD quints. Bot side buff -> wolves -> top side buff.
I take ArP quints and flat MR blues
I always get sotl-brut before tank items (and mayyybe LW if I'm really fed/I have leisure to do damage because top is Maokai/support is Lulu, etc)
you don't want to transition into tank items too early
(also, never get hexdrinker/maw since it's the most overrated item in the game and it fucks up your build)
After you clear buff>wraiths>buff / buff>wolves>buff (I always do whichever camp is closest) look to countergank top/bot
Don't gank if it's not a countergank or if the enemy laner's not really pushed (which they usually won't be)
If you didn't lose too much hp/didn't gank, just go back to clearing jungle till 4, then b
Get spirit stone + long sword (x2 if you got a kill from ganking)
boots can come next back
and get mobis if your team really needs help, or just get tabi/mercs depending on enemy team comp
for defensive items I'd recommend randuins/solari first depending on enemy comp
Game's usually over by then
I personally hate sunfire so I never buy it
final build:
tabi/mercs || sotl || brut>cleaver (the upgrade is very last thing you buy) || randuins || FH || visage
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tabi/mercs || sotl || brut>cleaver || solari || visage || randuins
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tabi/mercs || sotl || brut>cleaver || LW || hydra || triforceretired
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Saki Jack of All Trades
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In post 36312, BROseidon wrote:
This is a completely valid initiation pattern if your team is in position to follow up.
E->Q outranges flash, so you can follow with the knock up after they flash out of your ult.
also an escape
R EQ/flash
and if you know when to double tap r then you're okretired
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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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ya I dunno about this j4 business
I think I'm just not going to j4My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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Chevre Honourable Mention
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I dunno. Jarvan IV seems like a kinda cool champ to play.
(also I will try to play again sometime maybe? Right now the big hurdle is the patch which still takes in inordinate amount of time)There will be no kisses tonight
There will be no holding hands tonight
'Cause what is now wasn't there before and should not be-
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animorpherv1 Honey Trap
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In post 36317, animorpherv1 wrote:Dunkmaster Darius available. Looks like I'm not playing toplane for a bit.
Skin's pretty cool, though.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
coming back to Mafia...slowly. Keep an eye for me as a mod.
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In post 36319, Iecerint wrote:The new PBE splashes are pretty. ^^
From what I've seen in comments on Reddit/S@20, the Wukong splash is everyone's favourite or least favourite. No in-between. Personally I think it does look different from the others and doesn't really fit well but on its own I really like it.
My favourite this patch has to be Zilean. Oh man-
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Iecerint Survivor
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The only splash update I've kinda disliked so far as been Koggles's. It's crisp-looking, but a big cuteness nerf.-
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